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arubanluder 01-28-2008 10:38 AM

Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 
Since they are suppose to work different ,I wonder if they are better than the other bov and wastegates?Suppose not to leak and stuff.

Hitchhikkr 01-28-2008 04:07 PM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 
Harry aka MR2guru has the bov on his turbo mr2 and celica alltrac for about 7 months, the one on the alltrac failed and was leaking after 3 months DD. They are made in china therefore hit and miss. I like the way they sound, but the price isnt right for the quality. Still better than an RFL in my op. though.

Long story short, they are nothing new, there are better units out there.

gen4acclude 01-28-2008 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitchhikkr
Harry aka MR2guru has the bov on his turbo mr2 and celica alltrac for about 7 months, the one on the alltrac failed and was leaking after 3 months DD. They are made in china therefore hit and miss. I like the way they sound, but the price isnt right for the quality. Still better than an RFL in my op. though.

Long story short, they are nothing new, there are better units out there.

says you watch the videos on both the bov and wg extremely reliable probibly the fastest and most accurate gates on the market

ghettoturbo 01-28-2008 05:10 PM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 
we used one on a car at the shop..worked well. The ability to adjust boost without a controller or new springs is pimp

Hitchhikkr 01-28-2008 05:13 PM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 

Originally Posted by gen4acclude
says you watch the videos on both the bov and wg extremely reliable probibly the fastest and most accurate gates on the market

Yeah internet videos that all great and wonderful Im not saying they dont work im saying that from the experience I had with 2 of them and one failed after only 3 months and is expensive as ---- for a damn bov this is hmt i dont give a damn if the fucker costs $1000 I still think there are better MORE RELIABLE bov's out there that dont cost an arm and a leg. Kid asked for an opinion, I gave him one.

the 13th round 01-28-2008 08:50 PM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 
ebay knockoffs, FTW!

Slo_crx1 01-28-2008 09:07 PM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 
Actually they aren't Ebay chinese junk...made in USA gentlemen. Here's a nice in depth thread from one of the Evo forums I'm on that discusses this valve with the designer/owner...it's a pretty good read.

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthr...ynchronic+blow

gen4acclude 01-29-2008 04:39 PM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 
well i just got back from a dyno session with the wg and bov on my brothers 1g dsm and first pull netted 348whp 362ftlp torque switch the wg and bov made 20 more hp and 18 lb torque more , he was running a hks race bov retails for over 700 and a tial 40mm wg ratail is over 400 i think both the synapse bov and wg cost less then just hid hks bov proof is in the pudding boys

arubanluder 01-29-2008 05:58 PM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 

Originally Posted by gen4acclude
well i just got back from a dyno session with the wg and bov on my brothers 1g dsm and first pull netted 348whp 362ftlp torque switch the wg and bov made 20 more hp and 18 lb torque more , he was running a hks race bov retails for over 700 and a tial 40mm wg ratail is over 400 i think both the synapse bov and wg cost less then just hid hks bov proof is in the pudding boys

----.I dunno about you guy's but that would convince me to buy a set of synapse's stuff and give em a try. Anybody else has some experience like this??

gen4acclude 01-29-2008 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by arubanluder
----.I dunno about you guy's but that would convince me to buy a set of synapse's stuff and give em a try. Anybody else has some experience like this??

not saying to run out and buy the bov and wg but it does ex actually what the mfg claimed faster response more acurate and more power, also my brother dsm had a very slight boost creep problem when whe switched it was gone

Inquisition 01-29-2008 11:12 PM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 

Originally Posted by gen4acclude
well i just got back from a dyno session with the wg and bov on my brothers 1g dsm and first pull netted 348whp 362ftlp torque switch the wg and bov made 20 more hp and 18 lb torque more , he was running a hks race bov retails for over 700 and a tial 40mm wg ratail is over 400 i think both the synapse bov and wg cost less then just hid hks bov proof is in the pudding boys

It's a shame people don't actually test data in a remotely proper manner so that we can actually make a statement like "the proof is in the pudding". First and foremost, changing two variables at once is a big no no so already your test is null and void. Second of all, without proper datalogging and testing environment, this test isn't really proving anything. Lastly, it is necessary to be able to repeat an experiment over and over to prove its validity so even if your information is valid, it's hard to take seriously without seeing similar results from a number of vehicles.

As for these products. They are MADE AND ASSEMBLED in CHINA. They were ENGINEERED in AMERICA. It says it right on the box.

TorganFM 01-29-2008 11:27 PM

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Really.. what kind of boost controller was your brother's car running? It's possible a cheapo one or even a dirty one (if that's possible?) can fluctuate a psi or two. ----, boost creep could add more power. Are you sure it was corrected with the swap?

boosted 00 black si 01-30-2008 04:34 AM

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=WjNbMTLzZck

and check his other videos ..

Hitchhikkr 01-30-2008 09:29 AM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 

Originally Posted by Inquisition
It's a shame people don't actually test data in a remotely proper manner so that we can actually make a statement like "the proof is in the pudding". First and foremost, changing two variables at once is a big no no so already your test is null and void. Second of all, without proper datalogging and testing environment, this test isn't really proving anything. Lastly, it is necessary to be able to repeat an experiment over and over to prove its validity so even if your information is valid, it's hard to take seriously without seeing similar results from a number of vehicles.

As for these products. They are MADE AND ASSEMBLED in CHINA. They were ENGINEERED in AMERICA. It says it right on the box.

Damn you got to it before me. lol. :P

gen4acclude 01-30-2008 04:58 PM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 

Originally Posted by Inquisition
It's a shame people don't actually test data in a remotely proper manner so that we can actually make a statement like "the proof is in the pudding". First and foremost, changing two variables at once is a big no no so already your test is null and void. Second of all, without proper datalogging and testing environment, this test isn't really proving anything. Lastly, it is necessary to be able to repeat an experiment over and over to prove its validity so even if your information is valid, it's hard to take seriously without seeing similar results from a number of vehicles.

As for these products. They are MADE AND ASSEMBLED in CHINA. They were ENGINEERED in AMERICA. It says it right on the box.

only the wg was swapped first then the bov so dont assume nothing and as far a info logging of the data produced that was done as well as for the other q from torgan fm

Originally Posted by TorganFM
Really.. what kind of boost controller was your brother's car running? It's possible a cheapo one or even a dirty one (if that's possible?) can fluctuate a psi or two. ----, boost creep could add more power. Are you sure it was corrected with the swap?

he was running a hks dual stage electronic boost controller and boost creep only makes momentary hp

TorganFM 01-30-2008 05:07 PM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 
Interesting.. what would be the cause then? A leaking HKS race bov?

gen4acclude 01-30-2008 05:11 PM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 

Originally Posted by TorganFM
Interesting.. what would be the cause then? A leaking HKS race bov?

possible but unlikely we are lead to believe it has some thing to do with the tial wg leaking at high boost settings and opening to late

TorganFM 01-30-2008 05:16 PM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 
But why would a leaking WG or one that opens too late take away from your peak horsepower? When you're pushing a certain psi don't you want it to open... so why does it matter if it leaks? It doesn't make sense to me. I can see a leaky WG causing slow spool or something, but not lower peak HP.

gen4acclude 01-30-2008 05:29 PM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 

Originally Posted by TorganFM
But why would a leaking WG or one that opens too late take away from your peak horsepower? When you're pushing a certain psi don't you want it to open... so why does it matter if it leaks? It doesn't make sense to me. I can see a leaky WG causing slow spool or something, but not lower peak HP.

ok think about this if it opens late it would create a boost spike ie creep if it leaks then full boost would never be reached ie less psi =less power

seerex 01-31-2008 02:01 PM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 
Anyone have a link to said products?

gen4acclude 01-31-2008 02:02 PM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 

Originally Posted by crxvtec91
Anyone have a link to said products?

dude you are a douchebag owned by search

seerex 01-31-2008 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gen4acclude
dude you are a douchebag owned by search

---- I didn't feel like searching so what you want to e-fight :1

gen4acclude 01-31-2008 03:41 PM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 

Originally Posted by crxvtec91
---- I didn't feel like searching so what you want to e-fight :1

sure i got a frying pan and a bat and lets see what else i can find your a fag search

seerex 01-31-2008 04:06 PM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 

Originally Posted by gen4acclude
sure i got a frying pan and a bat and lets see what else i can find your a fag search

---- off. I been here longer; and I always search. I'm not some dumn ------- noob, I just did not really feel like searching, got it you fag.

gen4acclude 01-31-2008 04:18 PM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 

Originally Posted by crxvtec91
---- off. I been here longer; and I always search. I'm not some dumn ------- noob, I just did not really feel like searching, got it you fag.

noob my ass for the amount of time you have spend pissing with me you could have found the website link dumb ass

bgdriver 01-31-2008 05:01 PM

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http://www.synapseengineering.com/

now stop fighting bitches

gen4acclude 01-31-2008 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bgdriver
http://www.synapseengineering.com/

now stop fighting bitches

dont spoon feed the ------

seerex 01-31-2008 05:29 PM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 

Originally Posted by gen4acclude
dont spoon feed the african american

If I really wanted it I would have looked. Thinks for the link bgdriver.

gen4acclude 01-31-2008 07:12 PM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 

Originally Posted by crxvtec91
If I really wanted it I would have looked. Thinks for the link bgdriver.

yah thats why you asked more then once

bigdaddyvtec 01-31-2008 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bgdriver
http://www.synapseengineering.com/

now stop fighting bitches

Heed the noobest of noobs Acclude you faggot...
Pwned by 14 posts.....



LOL


malibutwinturbo 02-04-2008 03:58 AM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 
just because ---- is made in china doesn't mean ----, its all about how well the manufacturers quality control standards are

i am considering using their products on my project

seerex 02-04-2008 11:59 AM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 

Originally Posted by malibutwinturbo
just because ---- is made in china doesn't mean ----, its all about how well the manufacturers quality control standards are

i am considering using their products on my project

Its funny to read china and quality in the same line. :8

gen4acclude 02-04-2008 04:06 PM

Re: Are the synapse syncronic wastegate and bov good????
 

Originally Posted by malibutwinturbo
just because ---- is made in china doesn't mean ----, its all about how well the manufacturers quality control standards are

i am considering using their products on my project

actually i my many talks with albert @ group 5, they are only assembled in china made here in the usa and each one is pressure tested numerous time before packaging

Oscar 02-04-2008 06:35 PM

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=8-JTfgpFKrM

read comments as well.

gen4acclude 02-05-2008 12:06 PM

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so what just opinions no proof in the video, ow a bov opening in closing with nothing to measure the opening time start to finish

Oscar 02-05-2008 01:02 PM

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uh..thats what synapse does you dumbass...http://youtube.com/watch?v=M2--IIMSa9A
He talks and gives a bullshit explanation of how turbo's affect a motor and talks his product up without ANY measurements.



Synchronic BOV helps improve throttle response when used properly.
Guess what, a tial bov improves throttle response when used properly as well.

I've never heard of anyone experiencing the problems he describes in the videos with other bov's.

jinxy 02-05-2008 01:12 PM

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:S


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