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kamaleon 01-06-2003 08:06 PM

Re:Supra TT pistons + B16a Rods = D16A6
 
teh rods are from a b16.. and yes they need to be machines.
the pistons are fom the TT and they will fit 100%

pbwiz 01-06-2003 08:13 PM

Re:Supra TT pistons + B16a Rods = D16A6
 
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but the 1g-gte was used in mid to late 80's jdm supras and soarers (I believe they were 2.0 liters). They aren't from the US market twin turbo which is the 2jz-gte, so the 1g-gte pistons may be more difficult to find than anticipated. Hope this helps and good luck! :)

jthelman 01-06-2003 08:47 PM

Re:Supra TT pistons + B16a Rods = D16A6
 
Before anyone does this, be aware the compression will be horrendously low on a d16a6 (crx/civic).

I calculated it as below 8:1!!!! This will make the engine limp until at least some boost kicks in.

The pistons will not go as high in the cylinder as stock so the compression will be real low. The stroke length is still the same (bottom of the stroke is lower than stock).


HMT-Admin 01-06-2003 08:53 PM

Re:Supra TT pistons + B16a Rods = D16A6
 
Mind sheding some light? I would like to see the numbers..

what are the size of the B16a rods, compared to the A6 rods?

Jeff

teal terror 01-06-2003 10:45 PM

Re:Supra TT pistons + B16a Rods = D16A6
 
the compression height of the piston is important too, find out how far it is from the center of the wristpin bore to the top of the piston. you could have the machine shop deck the block some to reduce compression, but this can affect valve timing, and piston to valve clkearance can be an issue as well.

jthelman 01-06-2003 10:59 PM

Re:Supra TT pistons + B16a Rods = D16A6
 
When I first started looking at this setup, "TurboPanda" (I think he changed his name since) said the pistons stop 1mm lower than stock from the top of the cylinder at TDC.

This takes wrist pins and such out of the equation. Basically this adds 1mm worth of cylinder volume extra to the "compressed" side of the ratio.

I wish I kept the numbers, but I was shocked. If people have any ratios on adding 1mm thicker than stock head gasket, the result should be the same I think.

Considering a d16a6 starts out with 9.1:1, It's probably not a great idea to lower compression any more.

I will try to recalc the numbers.

John

teal terror 01-06-2003 11:13 PM

Re:Supra TT pistons + B16a Rods = D16A6
 
it isnt quite the same because the piston dish may not be the same volume, as well as the valve reliefs. you will need that measurement as well to calculate the compression correctly

teal terror 01-06-2003 11:19 PM

Re:Supra TT pistons + B16a Rods = D16A6
 
jthelman

you said that it adds 1mm to the compressed volume, but it also adds it to the uncompressed volume of the cylinder.you probably know this, but i just want to make sure you didnt miscalculate

89 CRX Si 01-06-2003 11:21 PM

Re:Supra TT pistons + B16a Rods = D16A6
 
Do we know valve reliefs will accomplite the d16a6 valve train if the head was deked the .5 mm and block .5 it would make nice clean mating surfaces...


teal terror 01-06-2003 11:46 PM

Re:Supra TT pistons + B16a Rods = D16A6
 
okay, i did some quick calculation,
assuming that the bore is 87 mm(stock)
the displacement of 1 cyl is 399.25cc(1597/4)
and a 49cc uncompressed volume would yeild 9.14:1 CR
adding 5.9cc(the 1 mm difference) to both compressed and uncompressed volumes equals
8.27:1 CR
low, but a good ratio for cheap fuel system upgrades and really high boost. i think its a good setup.
if the block was decked .25mmand the head was decked .25 mm the Compression would be 8.7:1, and those deck heights would deffinitely be acceptable if the engine was clayed to check piston to valve clearance,
valve timing would be altered a couple of degrees, but nothing an adjustable cam sprocket cant accomodate for.
that sounds like some old school ingenuity to me.
let me know if anyone can find more accurate numbers or if i screwed up, which isn't too unlikely


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