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Walter 06-06-2006 03:34 PM

Re: supercharger has Turbolag?
 
nice thread haha. i agree with the last thread of beerbongskickass


Turbocharger on a Honda = Good

Supercharger on a Honda = Poop

This isn't homemadesupercharger.com...

;D

Erich 06-07-2006 12:17 PM

Re: supercharger has Turbolag?
 
I was looking on the procharger website. Here are some specs from a customers honda.
2000 Honda Civic si

ProCharger:
C-1A

Intercooler:
2 Core

Naturally Aspirated ET/mph:
15.6ET @ 95 mph

Best ET/mph:
12.6 ET @ 108 mph

Naturally Aspirated RWHP:
160

ProCharged RWHP:
320

Boost Level:
10 psi

Exhaust:
DC Sports 4-1 header and 3 inch custom exhaust and 3 inch racing cat

Vehicle Specs:
93 octane, 1.6 DOHC Vtec, fully built bottom end, cp pistons, eagel h-beam rods blueprinted and balanced crank, ported and polished head, obx full race intake manifold, msd 6-al and ss race coil, arospeed 10.5 plug wires, spec stage 3 clutch, vafc fuel controler

Gear:
stock

That does not seem too bad. Again, I'm not super familiar with specs on modified hondas.
Of course, there is no way that can equal the bang for the buck of a homemade turbo setup. Or the potential of turbos.
Erich

Walter 06-07-2006 05:57 PM

Re: supercharger has Turbolag?
 
sound nice yeah! :P

beerbongskickass 06-07-2006 06:34 PM

Re: supercharger has Turbolag?
 
That doesn't seem right at all. I ran 12.6 @ 107mph with 230whp. A car with 320whp (no way that number is at the wheels) is going to trap a lot higher than that. I bet that S/C kit costs $3,000 then building the motor and head will cost another $2,000 or more. That looks like a shitty deal to me.

bumblezc 06-08-2006 11:56 AM

Re: supercharger has Turbolag?
 
Honda made a Rear Wheel Drive Civic. Why didn't I buy one!

Originally Posted by Erich
2000 Honda Civic si
Naturally Aspirated RWHP:
160

ProCharged RWHP:320


beerbongskickass 06-08-2006 11:58 AM

Re: supercharger has Turbolag?
 

Originally Posted by JK_Motorsports
Honda made a Rear Wheel Drive Civic. Why didn't I buy one!

Haha I didn't even notice that. Pretty funny though.

Walter 06-08-2006 03:26 PM

Re: supercharger has Turbolag?
 

Originally Posted by JK_Motorsports
Honda made a Rear Wheel Drive Civic. Why didn't I buy one!

hahahahaha i love my hatch cuz i can to drift with it! ;D

BLAAST 06-08-2006 05:14 PM

Re: supercharger has Turbolag?
 
AH!! The eternal turbo VS supercharger debate!!

Basically both supply what we need: Boost!!!!

Although a supercharged honda drives VERY WELL with acceptable power and reliability,
such setups are more expensive and not as customizeable as quivalent power turbo setups. I think these two reasons alone are a good enough explanation for the lesser populartity of the SC on hondas.

I agree with those who believe that a properly chosen turbo on a well tuned engine will have no significant lag. Yes there's always a lag but it can be reduced enough to almost match a supercharger of the same power rating.
Significant Lag on turbo cars is mostly when huge turbos are used for major gains of over 100$ from atmospheric HP.
But for a 8 psi setup and 50-60 % hp gains from atmospheric, you can definitely make a turbo setup with virtually no spool up.

Walter 06-08-2006 05:42 PM

Re: supercharger has Turbolag?
 

Originally Posted by BLAAST
AH!! The eternal turbo VS supercharger debate!!

Basically both supply what we need: Boost!!!!

Although a supercharged honda drives VERY WELL with acceptable power and reliability,
such setups are more expensive and not as customizeable as quivalent power turbo setups. I think these two reasons alone are a good enough explanation for the lesser populartity of the SC on hondas.

I agree with those who believe that a properly chosen turbo on a well tuned engine will have no significant lag. Yes there's always a lag but it can be reduced enough to almost match a supercharger of the same power rating.
Significant Lag on turbo cars is mostly when huge turbos are used for major gains of over 100$ from atmospheric HP.
But for a 8 psi setup and 50-60 % hp gains from atmospheric, you can definitely make a turbo setup with virtually no spool up.

yeah, and hello, i dunno if you know who am i (sound strange haha), but i hope to buy to you a T3/T04B for my project ;)

hondaaccord 06-09-2006 01:24 AM

Re: supercharger has Turbolag?
 
since the subject has been brought up i have also heard that using a supercharger durasticly reduces the life of your engine because of the strain it puts on it from the horsepower it takes to run. befor anyone says it i don't mean because it boosts your horsepower a lot but the strain it puts on everything to run itself. is this true just wondering? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???


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