ssautochrome turbos, any good?
hi!
just one question...does the turbos from ssautochrome are any good? im thinking to order one on ebay so...give me your opinion. big thanks |
Re: ssautochrome turbos, any good?
Wow do you need to search a little harder!!!
People generally do not like the ---- the SSAutoChrome sells because frankly, ITS CRAP. But lately a lot of guy have been taking the SSAutoShit route because of costs and coming up with some decent results with the turbos. Some good numbers have been made with them. In the beginning they didn't last any longer then a few hundred miles, then bearing and seals are shot, but a few guys have had them for +3000 miles with no problem. All in all they offer a good selection of sizes for the price, but its the reliability and durability that comes into play with the cheeaper crap. You have to ask yourself, do you want to pay for a turbo that will laqst 1 years or 5? Personally, i would not buy one. I would either hold out and buy a better/more repitable turbo, or buy acheapy from the junkyard and either do it yourself or pay someone to rebuild it. |
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thanks for the info!
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i bought a "remanufactured" garett off e bay it now has like 1,000 miles on it and the oil seals leak, its not rebuilt by garett, its rebuilt by some crazy brazillian fuckers that suck ass, thats why it was $300 instead of like $650 new from garett, i would imagine the ssautocrap ---- is the same way, next time i'll find a used mitsubishi turbo if i cant afford a good turbo, a decent used 16G is a good damn turbo and can be found cheap...
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lol nice ;D
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my friend had one of those "T70" turbos from SSAC...compressor nut came off and destroied teh turbo and his motor sucked up quite a bit of metal >:(
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Well I just bought a .60/.63 Nissan T3 for about 150 off ebay. The guy had it rebuilt using a Factory Garret Rebuild kit. All it needed was a turbine housing that I alreadt have. When I get it, I slapping it all together and taking it to a shop around here to have it balanced properly.
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im going to be a getting a ssautochrome kit for my car.. it sais it fits with a/c and its ------- hot here... ill only be using it for a year or so it should hold up for that long until i have enough for a turbonetics kit..
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Originally Posted by tuname420
im going to be a getting a ssautochrome kit for my car.. it sais it fits with a/c and its ------- hot here... ill only be using it for a year or so it should hold up for that long until i have enough for a turbonetics kit..
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SS is JUNK!! Look at these, many people have had good luck with them...
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQ...assZdown2turbo |
Re: ssautochrome turbos, any good?
Originally Posted by skinnye
Originally Posted by tuname420
im going to be a getting a ssautochrome kit for my car.. it sais it fits with a/c and its ------- hot here... ill only be using it for a year or so it should hold up for that long until i have enough for a turbonetics kit..
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Thats why you fix the leak, and get a different turbo, did you check shaft play, bearing noise etc. before installing? are'nt ssautocrap kits close to that price too.If you already have a kit peiced together than why won't you fix the problems with that kit and save yourself some money.
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I got a t3/to4e for 300 bux from SSA and I've put 10K daily driving miles and occasional hard driving. No problemo so far ...
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nice ;D
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i personally know a few people that are local to me that have been running the ssautocunt turbo's for a few thousand miles with no problems, but i really don't know if i would buy one or not, with my luck, i would be 'the guy' that got the bad one :P i got a reman. 60 trim t3/t04e from www.blaastperformance.com for 450.00 shipped with a warranty.
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i just ordered my ssauto kit ;D
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Re: ssautochrome turbos, any good?
Originally Posted by tuname420
i just ordered my ssauto kit ;D
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lol thanks
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rofl, im diggin the h22 with the ss auto crap mani in the banner on blastsperformance's website... second from the left
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Originally Posted by LSD Motorsports
Originally Posted by tuname420
i just ordered my ssauto kit ;D
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Re: ssautochrome turbos, any good?
Originally Posted by tuname420
i just ordered my ssauto kit ;D
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my ss autocrap mani was given for free no problems after 3 days-250 miles of testing with some hard driving everyonce in a while, free doesnt get any better than that, i heard the old versions of the manis used to crack very easily, a guy said he had fucked one after 30 miles only!
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Everything from SSautocrap has a bad rep for a good reason...my advice, if it isn't something that you plan on depending on, go for it. The only advice a can tell you for sure is DON'T use thier turbos!! I suggest Down2turbo on Ebay...
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I'm with kevin, the newer SS auto turbos that dont say XS power or anything at at all on the compressor housing are good. Check the nut on the turbine wheel and make sure it looks like its been ground up, thats how their balanced. My buddies been running their new style one for almost a year without any problems. I would buy their turbos and wastegates, but nothing else.
oh and bumblezc... as long as you dont change the compressor wheel/turbine wheel and shaft, there is no need for balancing after a rebuild. |
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hi!
i just got from ssa 1 new turbo and a mani, lets see how many miles i can get w hard driving ;D 8) >:D it wasnt my first option but was by the money 8) im just waiting for a real turbo i gess pray to turbo gods! |
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why didn't you just buy one from west-coastturbo.com?
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I rebuild turbos for a living and I confirm all chinese turbos are crap.
I get XSP and YZ turbos for rebuild ALL THE TIME. They alway look brand new, obvious sign that they worked for only a few hours but the wheels are all chewed up, shaft way loose, housings falling apart because they are glued together, that stupid s/n tag on the outlet spout that makes the couplers leak boost and mostly, BLueish areas on the thrust collar and plate, sign of over heating, indicating that the tolerances are way off. To make them good, you have to change everything except the end housings by real garrett stuff, that's why for rebuilding a chinese turbo, I charge Twice as much as for Real garrett turbos. However. I have to admit that the manifolds are OK. I talked to many of the guys who posted pictures of a broken xsp manif on the web and the fact is they DIDN'T use a flexpipe or attach the downpipe to the block so all the weight and movement of the turbo, wastegate and whole exhaust line rests on the manif. With such a faulty install, any equal lenght manif would crack. Yes they are cheap and of a very discutable design but before the got their bad reputation, I installed MANY and none cracked. Wastegates and bovs: THey look good and work as well as the real thing and IMO they are a good way to save some money in te sope of a budget minded turbo setup. So in the end, if you are building a budget turbo kit, you can get SOME XsP parts with absolutely no drawback. However, The turbo itself is the heart of the system and you don'T want to cut corners short on that. |
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Oh, and be carefull, I don't know who yet but There are some rebuilding facilities around who rebuild GARRETT turbos using XSP parts. I had some sent to me as well. You get REAL GARRETT housings but all the internals are CHINESE!!! You really need to know your stuff to tell the difference! These rebuilt turbos look real clean and are IMO very well assembled but they do fail the same as complete genuine XSP turbos so be carefull!!!
One way to find out: THe extremity of the turbine shaft is hexagonal on chinese turbines while it's triangular on garrett's. |
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Originally Posted by BLAAST
However. I have to admit that the manifolds are OK. I talked to many of the guys who posted pictures of a broken xsp manif on the web and the fact is they DIDN'T use a flexpipe or attach the downpipe to the block so all the weight and movement of the turbo, wastegate and whole exhaust line rests on the manif. With such a faulty install, any equal lenght manif would crack. Yes they are cheap and of a very discutable design but before the got their bad reputation, I installed MANY and none cracked. |
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If you are looking for a budget turbo. I recommend buying a blown one and sending it to blaast for a rebuild.
That's what I did. :) Spent 300 including shipping on the whole deal. :) |
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Originally Posted by gurusan
I recommend buying a blown one and sending it to blaast for a rebuild.
That's what I did. PLeeeeaase! Not too bad! ;) |
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Hey blaast, I'm bout to buy a SSAC t04e turbo and need it rebuilt(reason why I'm buying it cheap). I wanna rebuild it myself since I'm cheap and was wondering if you hook me up with a all garrett seals and bearings kit for it. Let me know how much for that...also let me know how much a rebuild from would cost too. ;)
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Re: ssautochrome turbos, any good?
ive seen the rebuild kits on ebay for around 80 dollars. its not that hard to rebuild a turbo. but it still needs to be rebalanced by a pro.
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I was always for giving them a chance - since the quality has come up. But having talked a friend to give them a try - SSA proceeded to promptly ---- him over.
http://www.lextreme.com/ssautochrome.html SSA is a bunch of doube bags to be avoided. |
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Originally Posted by 92HondaEX
Hey blaast, I'm bout to buy a SSAC t04e turbo and need it rebuilt(reason why I'm buying it cheap). I wanna rebuild it myself since I'm cheap and was wondering if you hook me up with a all garrett seals and bearings kit for it. Let me know how much for that...also let me know how much a rebuild from would cost too. ;)
Straightening, balancing and polishing the shaft as well as boring the center section and properly assembling everything DOES require some specialized equipment. Those who think that just slapping-in an ebay rebuild kit + getting the shaft balanced by some local shop will do the job may have bad suprises... I have 20+ different sizes of bearings and piston rings in stock. Impossible to know up front which ones will be needed for a given turbo. How can the ebay guy know if you need 10, 15 or 20 thousands oversize OD or undersize ID bearings? :S What kind of money will you save if your shaft has more wobble than before with these new, generic ebay bearings? How much will that local rebuild shop charge you to only balance your rotating assembly?? 40$? 50$? add that to the 80$ for the ebay kit, you already spent more than SOME COMPANIES charge for a complete warrantied rebuild!! Parts and labor included! I will never enforce it enough: I support and encourage at 100% those who are trying to save some money in the scope of a Home made turbo project. Asian and used wastegates, bovs, manifolds and IC, home depot piping and DSM injectors will all give acceptable results with low compromizing. But the turbo, you don'T want to cut corners short on that. You need the real thing. Ideally brand new and at the very worst, a profesionaly remanufactured and warrantied one. |
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Originally Posted by BLAAST
As opposed to what people may say, it's not SIMPLE to "home made" rebuild a turbo. Let alone a SSAS turbo!
Straightening, balancing and polishing the shaft as well as boring the center section and properly assembling everything DOES require some specialized equipment. Those who think that just slapping-in an ebay rebuild kit + getting the shaft balanced by some local shop will do the job may have bad suprises... I have 20+ different sizes of bearings and piston rings in stock. Impossible to know up front which ones will be needed for a given turbo. How can the ebay guy know if you need 10, 15 or 20 thousands oversize OD or undersize ID bearings? :S What kind of money will you save if your shaft has more wobble than before with these new, generic ebay bearings? How much will that local rebuild shop charge you to only balance your rotating assembly?? 40$? 50$? add that to the 80$ for the ebay kit, you already spent more than SOME COMPANIES charge for a complete warrantied rebuild!! Parts and labor included! I will never enforce it enough: I support and encourage at 100% those who are trying to save some money in the scope of a Home made turbo project. Asian and used wastegates, bovs, manifolds and IC, home depot piping and DSM injectors will all give acceptable results with low compromizing. But the turbo, you don'T want to cut corners short on that. You need the real thing. Ideally brand new and at the very worst, a profesionaly remanufactured and warrantied one. |
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Originally Posted by 92HondaEX
okey....I see your oint there....but you never said how much you woulb rebuild it for.
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Originally Posted by gurusan
It says on his site : blaastperformance.com
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Hey bitches, don't make me sue you for talkin ---- about my quality products. ----, even Garrett orders their turbos from us!
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