so will the stock sohc spin this bitch
 

so will the stock sohc spool this bitch ar .050/.93?

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Re: so will the stock sohc spin this bitch
 

It might, but you'll need a 3" exhaust for it to spin.

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Nope. Try it though. If you're really going to try block onseide of that twin scroll turbine flange.


JP

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would that choke my top end?

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sell it and buy a t3/t4 that's a ridicoulously oversized turbo

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eventually

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Nope.

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Me personally, I would keep that bitch till I had an engine that would be sufficient to spool that fucker up....and dude, where do you find all these badass turbo's at?? If I'm not mistaken I bought an old Starion/Conquest TDO5H 12A from you 3 or 4 years ago(username was 14bn4g back then)...ur a verrry resourceful young man...

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is that from a ford powerstroke? those turbos dont even hit their efficientcy island until over 20 psi. id probobly use one of those for a built b series.

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Here is one on an old school 1.8(might be bored to 2.0L though), might be a bit laggy but I'm sure a d head flows more than an old 3tc head.
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If anything it looks pretty good.

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Run it Rene. Let's make a twin scroll manifold for it and a 3" DP.

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im in if your in. i dont have anywhere to work on my car anymore :'(


got a link to this?

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i opened it up andyou know the wheel itself doesnt look bigger than my 48/60 wheel. do you think itll still flow more cfms?
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Re: so will the stock sohc spin this bitch
 

you will be waisting time and money if you put that turbo on a single cam.

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Give it a whirl Rene. What can you lose?

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Measure the inducer and exducer.

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The wheels may look the same but I think it will move more air due to the biger volume in the compressor housing. But then again what the ---- do I know ???

---- it just mount it on an HF mani :P

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The compressor housing has pretty much nill to do with how much it is going to flow.


If that compressor wheel is near the same size as a super 60, forget it. Crap. Those turbos are designed with high boost, high displacement, low rpm motors.

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that is one huge ------- turbo

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Ernt. Bigger housing is allowing more volume of air to flow. Ever here of Stevemode's Project Slut (I believe) where he swapped on the .60 T-Bird housing. I did it also. It works. A wheel maximizes it's efficently as a bigger housing, but a larger housing helps.


JP

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Where's the dyno sheet for proof?

Point is, like I stated earlier, the compressor housing does pretty much nothing to do with the turbo's performance.


Also, you guys swapped a the t-bird 0.60A/R housing on to a turbo that had a 0.42A/R. How do you know the wheel trims were the same. If the wheel was smaller, you guys are hurting the turbo;s performance and efficiency.

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Because they swapped housings, not wheels.

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Come on guys, basic turbocharging.


Each housing is machined for a specific size or TRIM wheel.

You can't put a 46trim housing on a 60trim wheel reguardless of the A/R. The wheel will touch the housing. Vica-versa, a 60 trim housing on a 46 trim wheel will have a large gap aroung the inducerm thus decreasing flow and efficiency.

Re: so will the stock sohc spin this bitch
 

Obviously you haven't swapped housings on a T-bird T3.

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he just goes around thinking he knows everything then looks like a moron when he gets provin wrong. i've learned to ignore he he is a reterd

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Hey, if they are the same trim, fine, if not.........


Don't be jealous because I use my brain.

You have never proven me wrong, what is worse, you think others have when they haven't which makes you an ignorant dumbass that drives the bandwagon.

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its call the common sence wagon that you obviously missed long ago

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I didn't miss the spelling wagon, that's for sure. :1


So you think that it's common sense that it is okay to swap compressor housings of different trims or that it is common knowledge that T-bird turbos have the same trim as other T3's cause, well a T3 is just a T3, cause, like there are different size wheels with a one-size-fits-all compressor housing.

:1 :1 <-This is for you now. TurboD16 got replace by a bigger retard.


You are drowning right now in my knowledge buddy. Get out while you can.

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maybe hes talking about the turbine side and not the compressor. you may be physically able to swap compressor housings but that wont work, like madmax said, itll be too tight or youll have a gap around the wheel. you can swap out the turbine housings on both the 48 and 63 housings w/ no problems.

come one guys, dont get your panties in a bunch

Re: so will the stock sohc spin this bitch
 

haha your funny. you tried arguing with samson and your wrong stil like always. i cant wait till you dissapear like so many other butt------- ------ fags befor you, go back to honda tech where you came from with all the other O0



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Samson didn't prove anything. You are such a dumbshit. Hang yourself already, you contribute no knowledge. Keep banging your crackhead mom.

I didn't come from honda-tech dickmunch.


He was definitely talking about the compressor housing. 0.60A/R is the compressor.


No problem because almost all T3's use the same turbine wheel. The mercedes is the only different wheel.

T3 compressor wheels come in 6-7 different sizes. Gotta have the right housing.

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my mom is dead and i have no neck and honda tech loves you they all talking about......

"where is maxipad we miss him he is so cool we miss his knowledge and his gay porn he loves so much he is the coolest black man ever"

i'm not making this up this is a direct quote from the site, so dont piss off all of them just go back

Re: so will the stock sohc spin this bitch
 

I've swapped compressor housings on numerous turbos. The T-Bird housing will fit on other T3s but if their trim is smaller there is a gap you can see starting at the inducer.
You have to match the compressor wheel to the compressor housing if they are not the same trim.
I don't think it's that hard to understand. Need measurements?
I'm sure madmax can provide those since nobody else has intuitive replys.

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I don't know what fitting a different comp. housing to a smaller wheel is actually like, but any gap created will seriously hit the efficiency hard. Look at the comp. wheel in the first pic and how close it is to the casting. It relies on that close fit to actually compress the air. Kind of like a piston and a piston ring. You might not be able to see the difference, but i bet you could measure it.

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Exducer is flush while inducer has a slight gap. I dynoed after the swap but never before so I have no statical proof. Many people have done it and can tell you the difference and that' the best I can offer. I agree though that to achieve its full benefits you need the correct wheel, none the less, it helps.


JP

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Garrett GT32? I'd run it in a heart beat. Look up whiterice + MADMAX's threads on el cheap topmounts using 4-2-1 header upper portions... run it so that the cyls stay paired and spool should be quite good. You can also run it with a traditional manifold, but it'd be more suited to a big power drag turbo application as it's going to spool a little lazy in 1st, you have to stand on it and speed shift to get the boost to build, and you have to crank the boost up high so boost doesn't fall off between shifts. A cam and a couple hundred extra rpms, or a 50 shot, can lessen spool/powerband problems. ;)

There is also the small diesel T3 turbine wheel, it's quite different, and although I've never seen an old diesel Rabbit turbo I'm suspecting that with a .38 (.3x something anyway) AR turbine it might be different as well. Spot on about the compressor + housing match though.

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Chances are it still uses the same stage 1 wheel. The aftermarket just adopted these stage names for the super common T3 wheel, and stage 2 for the mercedes wheel since it is slightly bigger.

I like to see if the blade designs are different on all these T3 turbines. Most likely some are, but they just kept the same exducer/inducer and curve measurements the same.

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The John Deere split turbine T3 has a completely divergent turbine wheel design. It looks like turbine engine blades, only thicker.

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MADMAX was probably originally thinking what I know - the 60trim .60ar housing will leave a gap, almost 0.2" at the inducer, when swapped onto a 45trim '.42/.48' turbo. The exducer is the same size, so it fits tight down below, but you're still loosing air to it rolling off the side of the wheel. Think of the losses from an anti-surge housing, then multiplyu them by 10x. Its kinda like ------- a funnel. It works great when you get to the very end of the funnel, but until you do, its pointless.

If you really want some proof about this, go to HT and look at the (iirc) gt4088r thread. Its a gt42 in a gt40 housing, if I remember correctly. They do say it will spool quicker, but make less power. Its not designed for it, so it sucks. The compressor AR doesn't do too much though. Its mainly the inducer size and exducer size that dictate much of the charactersitics.

Re: so will the stock sohc spin this bitch
 

sooooooooooooooo what you guys are saying is that if the wheel on my t3 compressor housing is larger than the one on this turbo i should keep the t3?