simease sleeves boosted and not burning oil
 

b20b mad jdm crack factor
gsr/head
stock clutch i think?
home depot charge piping couplers
16g-tdo5
exhaust mandrel bends
2 bosch bovs
UR pulley
460 rx7 injectors
tre 255 fuel pump
egay mani
egay oil lines

---- i made/got help on/ had welded at work
rear lower motor mounts
glorified t fitting
machined oil restrictor
t3 to dsm adapter plate
down pipe=tits

tuning
jaw wideband
crome 1.5
trying to get freelog to work base map for now

pics coming asap

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wheres the mad tight jdm b20 i got a vtac b20 is mo better a i got the pr3 head :P

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Twin plastic BOV=2x the leaks. Baller dude. That EVO fmic is upside down too. Solid HMT work nonetheless.

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16g choking a b20v :3 get a holset and have a do over

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If you hook the bosch's up backwards (aka 911 style) they hold more boost. Flip em around. :6

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its a starion intercooler O0
i had a kkk t3 flanged k26 and was going to get duh 911 k27 compressor put on, it spools nice but it could be bigger but hey for a 400 dolla kit it aint bad

im only on ten pounds right now until i get freelog to work with my jaw, asemap is pretty solid except for idel

i got a third bov but i not nig enough to put it on, i had two so why the hell not
i just have to learn how to weld asap, so the process will speed up, mocking ---- up with tape and marker takes forever so by buddy at work can weld my ----, but hey he does a nice as job

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my computer was gay or sometoing see see the pics nice i like so how much boost you pushing i bet you get instant spool like 2k hu

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full boost at 3k, quiet little bastard though...wonder why

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thats a big ass turbo homie
damn

my cars quiet also...
2.5" straight through (duals-ricer)

you gotta nice lil setup though

post some videos

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as big as my ballsack

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damn horse nuts

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if its smaller than a 20g it doesnt wet my whistle

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Come on now. A 16g isn't THAT small. It has a 46.5mm compressor inducer that is the same size as a 60 trim T3 (1.83") which is the largest T3 available. That's not considering the aftermarket Super 60 wheel that is 1.90". That's also not including the EVO3 variant which is only a few mm smaller than an 18g and is capable of 550cfm and well over 400whp. A normal b16g will flow 38-39lbs/min which isn't anything to sneeze at. The e3 will flow 43lbs/min which is only a little less than the 20G's 48lbs/min (TDO6H). Not to mention it spools really fast and is quite reliable at lowish (25psi>) boost levels.

I'm well aware that DSM guys sackride the 16g like it's the holy grail of turbos which is absolutely ridiculous. It is definitely too small for major power on a 4-banger, but it gets the job done with virtually no lag. It's a wonderful low boost street turbo that's been proven over and over again. It's insant gratification at its finest. There's a reason there are so many knock-offs of it. Of course it's not as potent as a T3/T4 or T4, but it's also not totally unexciting like you say.

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Also, in support of the 16g; I have to say it's the snappiest turbo I've ever ran. Before I went to a larger Garrett I had a MHI E316G at 23psi and it hit really hard. True, it fell off a little up top, but it went from 0-23psi faster than any other turbo I've ever ran. It held solid to just South of 7k too. Even though my Garrett makes way more power up top; the car feels less torquey during street driving. Little turbos do provide excellent low end power which can give the illusion that the car is more powerful than it really is IMO.

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srry i like using lag as traction control if it hits boost before 4k i don't want it :P top ends where its at ill stick with my to4e's ..not say'n the 16g isn't straight on a b16 but a hx35 or gm series would be alot more baller :y


nice setup nonetheless

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TO4E ftfv on 4-banger. Anything in the 55-62mm IMO. Garrett>Mitsu no doubt! I got a SC34 which is a T31 turbine/56mm compressor(49lbs/min), and housing wise is a .63/.70 TO4E. Spools great on 2.0L and thoroughly owns a 16g in all areas except spool time. I also have a T3/TO4B sitting here to that I want to run. It's a .63 a/r turbine housing as well, but in a .60 compressor housing and with a 68 trim turbine wheel (stock T3). The compressor is the 54.5mm "V-trim" (48lbs/min), so just a hair smaller, but it's 450whp capable and will match the 16g in spool time. One simply can't find a better 4 cylinder street turbo than a well sized/proportioned and journal bearing t3/t4! Genuine unit only of course!

Also, I double checked the numbers. The non-EVO3 just bare bones b16g will outflow all the T3 turbos made! Even the aftermarket Super 60 which outflows the production 60 trim (a la Thunderchicken) can only muster 36lbs/min. So the 16G>all full T3 turbos! Of course as soon as it's a T3/T4 it's all over.

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But that's raw compressor data, not including losses from the turbine. IIRC the garrett T3 turbine section, even the stg1, is bigger than the MHI versions. Although the info I found was shitty, the td05 turbine inducer size is smaller than a T3 stg1, and the exducer size is a HAIR larger. That's the main reason they can make great HP, but spool very fast. The td04 is much smaller. So basicly, they're more like large T28's, not T3's. A normal aftermarket ("off the shelf) t3/t04e has a larger turbine than most MHI turbos, hence the LAG+TOPEND. "OEM Garrett" designs, like a straight T3 or a straight T4 always have a much larger hot side then they should, at least compairing them to other MFG's like MHI or IHI.

If you compair a t3/t04e like a 50trim w/stg1 T3 turbine to a E3 16g, I'm sure you'd like the Garrett far more. Coincedently, later this year I intend to put together the odd hybrid I found parts for - a t3 comp housing/backplate machined to fit a 57trim T04E compressor in it. Mixed with a stg1 turbine, it would basicly make it very close to a td05-20g, but with more flow...

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Yep, even the stage 1 Garrett turbine wheel is larger than the TD06H turbine wheel rofl. Like I said before; Garrett>Mitsu.

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FYI that is the funniest (and scariest?) picture of a snatch I've seen. :S

I've always kinda known that's why the >2.0L dsm/subi cars drop on their face when they rev, but I never really read into the exact DSM turbine specs. This also makes me think that 57trim wheel in a ".42/.48" T3 will be an insane combo, 400whp with crazy spoolup. I was thinking of this earlier today, and I think MHI's are decent because the turbine ends up spinning slower (bigger wheel does so to flow the same), and ends up bypassing more gas through the WG. That's one reason why they spool fast, but still make lots of power. A certain "hero" on H-T told me I would be nuts to use anything smaller than a stg3 for >300whp. Now I'm not thinking its as big a deal he made it to be, especially when I have all the parts.

BTW I have a stg1'd t3/t04b S-trim, which is ~37lbs/min, and spool was really nice on a 1.6L SOHC. Especially considering it was the 1st car I tuned, was using a volvo internal WG, tiny-radius 180* bend right off the internal WG, and was using an HF manifold. I'd bet your V-trim will spool almost like the 16g, but have much more power per PSI to dish out.

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quiet cuz a small exhaust turbine my stg3 .63 on .50 ar compressor t3t4 egay one was kinda loud on my ---- hatch but when i put the motor in my coupe and was running 16 psi it sounded like an air plane! lol

any way how much boost you running hit the track yet.. ?

traction problems from super O0 man spool up rates? got some traction bars on it yet

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its at 10 pounds daily but i keep blowing off a home depot clamp from my j pipe, it has a slight bend where the two pipes meet so the clamps cant hold it together, should be fixed mid week
track maybe sometime soon, once my buddy tows my ass and i get some time
my civic is my main concern now because i need some cash to finish both cars and i am selling the built ls that was in the civic and swaping in my cheap semi built dirty d
had to verify the internals on it today and hit up the pick and pull

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traction bars are 1/2 done you could say because i got a piece of tubing welded to the two front hooking point or whatever you want to call them and have been looking for some round at work to make the rest, g-jobs own me

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Put 4 or more button head screws in the pipe to imitate bead rolling. Or use hair spray. Both will keep it on better, one by sticking, the other by requiring the band expand before it can be pushed off.

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JB weld works great for "beading" the ends of piping. ---- will never blow off. T-bolt clamps are absolutely required as well.

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No, I think the Garrett designs are about right, it's manifold deign and theory that has gone horribly wrong. .60 T04E with a stage 5 turbine makes boost at 2500 on an 84mm B-series... or a lot later, depending on your manifold.

I wouldn't even bother with your plan to mate a T04E compressor to a stage 1 turbine wheel. Go split scroll for your spool and have large whp top end as well.

Or, go BW... you do realise that Bullseye pays sub-$550 for the much vaunted S372 CHRA, yes? They are not expensive turbos, people just don't know what they are buying at such an insane markup. And the turbine wheels on them are freaking huge for the spool you get out of them - welcome to modern design.