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FooK 01-25-2006 11:20 PM

Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 
I picked up this T3/T4 from a local I am going to tune a car for. It's very obviously one of those ZY/XSPOWER split compressor turbos.

So here's the question...

Since I am already aware of the compressor issue with these, does anyone have any insight or experience with them? How do the seals and bearings hold up?

I have two ideas on what I might do. The first is to tig the entire seam of the compressor so I know its staying in one piece. The other idea is to find another compressor housing and wheel and swap it on.

What do you guys think about the tig idea?

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90dx 01-25-2006 11:33 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 
A few tack welds should get the job done if your really concened about it.I would just run it as is.

hotrex 01-25-2006 11:35 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 
----, id just run it, id take the wheel nut off and locktite it though., other than that strap it on and ride


much like my mom does to my ass.

just strap her on and ride.......

Reddy 01-25-2006 11:35 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 
lol and a turbonetics turbine, its a mutt :8

90accordIHI 01-25-2006 11:36 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 
strap it on and ride nigga

mahcivic 01-25-2006 11:36 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by hotrex
----, id just run it, id take the wheel nut off and locktite it though., other than that strap it on and ride


much like my mom does to my ass.

just strap her on and ride.......

dan quicksilvia has been running one for quite some time now with now problems

HMT-Admin 01-25-2006 11:37 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 
I'd roll it how it is

FooK 01-25-2006 11:40 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by Whitey
lol and a turbonetics turbine, its a mutt :8

nah thats a fake turbonetics T. up close it doesnt even look the same.

hotrex 01-25-2006 11:43 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 
---- it, i think you should slather your schlong all over it

FastLS 01-25-2006 11:56 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 
I'd be afraid to run a quality comp. housing on it that will outlast the current one. Seeing as how it's the weak link, replacing it will create another weak link by giving it the ability to run harder and longer. I would think the second weakest link would be the compressor wheel, but IDK.

Reddy 01-26-2006 12:41 AM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by FooK
nah thats a fake turbonetics T. up close it doesnt even look the same.


omg thats pathetic. But I'm a little sad you forgot your HMT roots. Cover that compressor housing in JB weld :6

91efate 01-26-2006 10:01 AM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 
you should just sell me one of the the compressor back housing retaining plates and then junk that ---- lol

EDIT **

(woops i keep hitting modify instead of quote)


Originally Posted by FooK
ok, and the price will be $2000

$10 for the plate, $5 for shipping, and $1985 for being stupid enough to suggest that.


gotboost 01-26-2006 09:28 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 
about a year ago i bought a xs power turbo....not knowing at the time it was ----. it also had the black serial tag. looked exactly like yours. Though... i also heard there was a knock-off xs turbo coppied that was a piece. Anyways. i installed the turbo and ran it for about a month untill......
the piece of ---- started making a loud high pitch grindng sound and wouldnt boost anymore....though the fan still spun freely. I took it off and the compresssor housing fan was chewed down about 1/8" so bad it wouldnt even create boost. And when it would spool, it wasnt even a high pitch spooling sound...it literally sounded like the wind howling..kinda funny. But it did pully very hard at 8psi. When i ripped it apart, .....lol...the compressor housing was tack welded together from the inside...and probably only glued together. SOOO you be the judge. If you want to run turbo for a month or so do it. And youll end up re-doing you DP also with a new turbo you exchange it with ;)

88dx 01-26-2006 09:33 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by Whitey
omg thats pathetic. But I'm a little sad you forgot your HMT roots. Cover that compressor housing in JB weld :6

:y

fastcivicboy 01-26-2006 10:44 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by hotrex
----, id just run it, id take the wheel nut off and locktite it though., other than that strap it on and ride


much like my mom does to my ass.

just strap her on and ride.......

I sure as hell wouldnt take the wheel nut off, that would def. be asking for problems w/ a piece of ---- turbo like this. Roll with it how it is. Gambling it is.

kill-ka-t-kill 01-26-2006 10:58 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 
i bought one of those turbos in september, i have run the ---- out of it every day since. there has been no problems. they have probally improved thier quality , i havent really heard of any mishaps lately. i never loctited my ---- and its still tight too.

bumblezc 01-27-2006 09:16 AM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by gotboost
compresssor housing fan

HAHA, Really? You call it a fan. Bet it keeps you real cool in the summer!

splitime 01-27-2006 10:41 AM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 
I'm with some above, a couple tacks should remedy any issue of housing splitting, since they'll prevent the split.

Then id also agree on popping the nut loose and adding some locktite... just as usual, mark it keep it from moving and do it.

Let us all know how it works out ;)

BTW... i love those audi gates. I got lucky and got one that was adjustable... used a self drilling screw into that little top center cap, poped it out with plyers and boom... allen key adjustable... running 14-15psi stock off it with an aftermarket spring (oh and off an HF manifold sticking straight up off it :p) http://129.105.148.252/pictures/piping%20(Small).jpg

JDMFantasy2K 01-27-2006 10:42 AM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 
isn't it illegal for a company to copy another company's trademark (ie: SSAuto selling turbos with the "T" logo on them)? Wish someone would sue their asses and make them go under.

bumblezc 01-27-2006 11:20 AM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by splitime


BTW... i love those audi gates. I got lucky and got one that was adjustable... used a self drilling screw into that little top center cap, poped it out with plyers and boom... allen key adjustable...

MUAAA, they're all adjustable!

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...?topic=45040.0

splitime 01-27-2006 11:51 AM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by bumblezc

Yah.... but I didn't have to do any work for my adjustment :p

And I wouldn't have clearance for that big ass bolt... mine is all recessed and 100% oem adjustability :p

BoosTedZSix 01-27-2006 11:53 AM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by JDMFantasy2K
isn't it illegal for a company to copy another company's trademark (ie: SSAuto selling turbos with the "T" logo on them)? Wish someone would sue their asses and make them go under.

im sure its not exactly the same logo, there may be some small differences that would keep their asses safe. why not try out the turbo if you already have it?

SpankedYA! 01-27-2006 01:57 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 
Fook just let it ride. It will be fine.

Donald125 01-27-2006 02:22 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 
FYI there are whole bunch of china turbo thats made with the turbonetic "T" becasue they are making exact copy of the turbonetics without knowing, and Fook, yours is def.ly one of them.
Since they can not sell them as turbonetic, they are all being sold a regular turbo and once the buyer recvie them they are like "wow" LOL and will prob.ly try to re-sell them as the real turbonetics.

The compressor housing is not going to crack because the "glue up" one are no more. they are all casted and welded now. And a lot of time these turbo fail becasue the bearing is not oil'ed enough/at all when they are made, so they get killed a lot on firts start up. what u should do is to stick something into the fins to stop it from spinning, start it up, let it prime for a WHILE then hope it last.

bumblezc 01-27-2006 04:20 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 
Or Prime the motor first!!!

FooK 01-27-2006 08:27 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by Donald125
FYI there are whole bunch of china turbo thats made with the turbonetic "T" becasue they are making exact copy of the turbonetics without knowing, and Fook, yours is def.ly one of them.
Since they can not sell them as turbonetic, they are all being sold a regular turbo and once the buyer recvie them they are like "wow" LOL and will prob.ly try to re-sell them as the real turbonetics.

The compressor housing is not going to crack because the "glue up" one are no more. they are all casted and welded now. And a lot of time these turbo fail becasue the bearing is not oil'ed enough/at all when they are made, so they get killed a lot on firts start up. what u should do is to stick something into the fins to stop it from spinning, start it up, let it prime for a WHILE then hope it last.

i know its one of the chinese knockoffs but i didnt buy it new, so it could still be one of the older ones, any obvious ways to tell? I don't see any glue residue on it.

hotrex 01-27-2006 08:59 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 
the black tag on the outlet neck is the kiss of death.


that is def one of the shittiest tubos possible.

FooK 01-27-2006 10:17 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by hotrex
the black tag on the outlet neck is the kiss of death.


that is def one of the shittiest tubos possible.

is your black tag on the left or right side of your neck?

hotrex 01-28-2006 12:03 AM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 
i would never rock such a shitty piece. just slap it on and go with it

leed 01-28-2006 01:19 AM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by Whitey

omg thats pathetic. But I'm a little sad you forgot your HMT roots. Cover that compressor housing in JB weld :6

No ----, thats the first thing that popped into my head. Lather the fucker with some primo JB. Then you can carve HMT Nog-61 in it too.

Donald125 01-28-2006 02:43 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by FooK
any obvious ways to tell? I don't see any glue residue on it.

Take out the comprossor housing and make sure there are no glue on the underside. IF should be fine if there isn`t any residue. Or hammer it see if it cracks :8

myshtern 01-28-2006 03:06 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 
Why dont you just give it a few fat tacks around housing?

FooK 01-28-2006 09:54 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by myshtern
Why dont you just give it a few fat tacks around housing?

thats what i am thinking...and im pretty sure I'm gonna do this...

better safe than sorry right?

SpankedYA! 01-28-2006 09:59 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 
Silly to have to do that though.....sad manufacturing.

FooK 01-29-2006 05:00 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by CSaddict
Silly to have to do that though.....sad manufacturing.

true dat my friend, but the price was just too right to not take it. I wouldve never actually paid good cash for this kind of turbo, i wouldve stepped up and bought something garrett.

adam38654 01-29-2006 07:05 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 
sunof a bitch its nots 2 pieces. The only thing that will give you a problem is the seals or the compressor wheel nut backing off.

FooK 01-29-2006 07:16 PM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by adam38654
sunof a bitch its nots 2 pieces. The only thing that will give you a problem is the seals or the compressor wheel nut backing off.

actually it is two pieces, you can hold the damn thing in your hand and see the seam where the two pieces meet, but thanks for playing.

jdm_racer 01-30-2006 12:02 AM

Re: Should I be brave with this T3/T4? (PICS)
 
eh, quit ya bitching, take it to work and have the guy tig it, grind it down until is cute looking (inside joke). then slap it on and go. of i'll run it on my car for ya.. we'll see how long it holds up :y :y :y :y


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