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Old 07-09-2004, 11:31 AM
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Hey guys I am putting together a sperate oiling system for my turbo. I have seen a system for 1000 USD, which is nuts.
So far I bought a nice pump, a cooler, and a thermosensor.

I just need to find a good quality low cost oil tank, maybe about 1 liter or capacity to finish it up.

Here are the specs of the system I have so far.

60 psi, 1 gallon/mintue pump.
10'x15' oil cooler
off the shelf thermoresistor.

I am gonna program a micro controller to display the oil temp, flow rate, and oil pressure and throttle the pump accordingly.

Any guess as to what kind of oil temps I will be looking at?
I am just afraid because if the oil remains to hot it will shorten the life of the pump.

Any suggestiong as to a good quality low cost tank for oil? tank should ideally hold about 60 PSI.

I figure if I can put a good setup together it would be great for people installing a turbo system since for me the oil was the biggest PITA. Plus you could cycle the oil throught turbo after the car has shut off so it you would not need a turbo timer.

Any Ideas/comments?

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Old 07-09-2004, 12:11 PM
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Him, kinda sounds like alot of work for really nothing. Utilizing the stock oil system is really the way to go unless your going out on some type of full race car.

Mounting a pump, finding somewhere to put a oil tank, making more room in the front for an oil cooler, running all the lines and wiring everything up would take a newbie way longer than running 1 oil feed line and adding a fitting to the oil pan.

I just dont see any advantages. Cost/Time/Significance... doesnt add up ?
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Old 07-09-2004, 12:55 PM
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well, my engine oil gets dirty fast, and I do not want to screwup my turbo.

I can run synthetic for my turbo and not inncur the cost of running synthetic for my engine.

From what I read, if it is properly setup it should allow the turbo to run cooler.

Plus it would also do the job of a turbo timer.

Yeah the hassle has its pros and cons, but for me atleast the oil was the biggest of all hassles. Took forever to put in the fitting to tap the block beacuse there was not much room, removing a 10 year old oil pan and drilling a hole was a bit of hassle too. But I agree that it would be more of a luxury than anything, tapping the oil from the block is the cheapest way to go. But with people these days throwing money at things such as louder BOVs I think this is not that bad of a waste of money.

Well I am gonna give it a shot, who knows it just might work out great and I might be able get some decent benefits while allowing me to save money on synthetic oil.
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why not run a water cooled turbo and change your oil frequently... sounds like an awful lot of work for little gain here (well no performance gain)
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you got way too much time on your hands. oil & water cool is the way to go. get better engine management with the $$$ you're gonna use on your oil invention.
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Old 07-12-2004, 04:25 AM
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well I guess I'm the only one that is gonna support you on your radical essentric idea man. If you feel that this is what u want, go for it. You want better suggestions then I'm sure people will tell u (like they just have).

Your biggest problem will be burning up the pump. Maybe a more suited hydralic pump would work better, you don't really have to have some sort of crazy *** PSI factor (60 is high). I think you just need to move it at a steady rate. This will be a sealed system so I'm thinking of maybe some sort of hydralic resevoir. My dad works for a company that makes high end pressure washing systems. Next time I get a chance to have a nice long talk with him (like in the car) I will run it by him for input.

Good luck with your project, keep us updated, and take lots of pics for the buildup.

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60 psi is high, but I can throttle the pump voltage to get a more reasonable pressure. I too have alot of conerns about the pump burning out, but it tooks me days of searching for a pump that can handle decent pressure and has the proper seals to handle oil, which does not wieght like 25 lbs. The oil temp will pretty much be make or break for the system, if the oil temp gets too high then the pump will be toast. I am hoping and praying that the cooler I have which is pretty big, 10'x15' will be able to cool the oil enough.

I already odered the pump and the cooler, maybe I will not need a resiviour the volume of the cooler itself might be enough.

I love doing crazy fucked up ----, I would rank this as one of the more crazy things I am doing right now. Thanks for you words of support bud, and I will keep the rest of you bashers informed as to my progress
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oh BTW i just successfully tested my homemade EBC, Will post pics later on once the thing is more complete. I am gonna have a 3D boost table, based on RPM and intake temps and put some bad *** dataloggin on it. Was able to get it to communicate serially to my desktop over the weekend. It is so f*cken cool when you see a microcontroller talk to the computer and vice versa.

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find out how you can test the pump to see if it holds up pumping hot oil before you build your invention.
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I am gonna use it on my car, and use it a the test platform. I will have temp, flow and pressure sensors for the oiling system to verify that the pump is working, oil is cool and seals are okay. Plus I will put another temp sensor on the motor to make sure it is not over heating. I am just gonna go head on into this, never know if it will work until you try it out
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