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edge(eg2) 07-25-2009 06:35 PM

S.S. Log Turbo manifolds?
 
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ok... spoolin' performance has a clean looking log for about 300 ....i cant afford a ramhorn, i know equal length helps spool times/performance but is a stainless steel log much better than running a cast manifold? does anyone have any good non baised dyno comparisons (or is it primarily for show) also if anyone has any FIRSTHAND experience with THIS particular manifold please leave some feedback... included a pic

2 liter 07-26-2009 12:19 AM

that's a good mannifold but it's still going to crack one day. Cast last longer.

ctr99ek 07-26-2009 12:22 AM

hard to believe, but a cast manifold will flow better than a true log manifold because of the design. Casts usually have a little bit of individual runners which have less manifold pressure that the true log.

turbof22a 07-26-2009 06:50 AM

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man i have not been on in a long time but if your still onterested in that manifold i told you i would sell you here is the only picture i have of it

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i know the picture is really big but i did that on purpose

iceracerdude 07-26-2009 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by edge(eg2) (Post 1281597)
....i cant afford a ramhorn, i know equal length helps spool times/performance but is a stainless steel log much better than running a cast manifold? does anyone have any good non baised dyno comparisons (or is it primarily for show)

Dyno comps AND primarily for show? That's like jumbo shrimp, or happy lesbian, or innocent transvestite! The cast iron will be much stronger than a stainless. If you do make is stainless, make sure it's like 3mm thick tube/ell's or it will crack. Then there's ceramic coating to consider. Ramhorn of course looks good, but won't hold up to real world.

edge(eg2) 07-27-2009 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by ctr99ek (Post 1281653)
hard to believe, but a cast manifold will flow better than a true log manifold because of the design. Casts usually have a little bit of individual runners which have less manifold pressure that the true log.


..ok so flame me for this but lets explain "manifold pressure" because as of right now my logic would say that..... while an excess build up of exhaust gasses before the turbine (aka at the manny) could possibly lead to premature cracking, would it not help spool times significantly? kinda like blowing on a pinwheel by mouth or shooting the ------ thing with a leaf blower..... ... i dunno, im probably wrong so excuse me whle i slam my nuts in my car door....

oh and on an off note i do understand the concept of reducing wave turbulence and equal flow characteristics , like on ramhorn/equal length style manifolds. i probably need to stfu and save the $$$$ for a ram....right? this whole ordeal is because i dont want my z6 to be like whuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. uuuuuuu.uuuuuuuuu.uuuuu. BAHHHHH BAHHH BAHHHHH OMFG ROLFCOPTERWTF SHIFT!

iceracerdude 07-27-2009 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by ctr99ek (Post 1281653)
hard to believe, but a cast manifold will flow better than a true log manifold because of the design. Casts usually have a little bit of individual runners which have less manifold pressure that the true log.

See, he not comparing a cast to a ramshorn there. Of course the log generally is the lease efficient of the three, but sometimes it about the only fit. The cast is the most durable, the ramshorn most efficient and flashy, imo.

1pkr1 08-03-2009 01:01 AM

cast is good, less chance of cracking, cheaper too. but they is ugly

brandons13 08-04-2009 10:56 PM

cast is awesome but definately doesnt compare to a ramhorm/equal length

hunt_x 08-05-2009 10:05 PM

you could ceramic coat that manifold inside and out and triple the life of it and for not allot of cash has any one on here checked out Techline coatings? they make some amazing products if you guys aren't usin this stuff for your builds you are not getting as much from your ---- as you could be. Shopping - Products by Tech Line Coatings, Inc. check it out I have a small custom shop and I use all there stuff on my builds now, and my ---- lasts longer and runs cooler and makes more power,

cvcdx 08-07-2009 01:11 AM

i have an equal length no name manifold and its doing the trick but i don't know for how long?.. got my back up cast manifolds ready

edge(eg2) 08-07-2009 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by cvcdx (Post 1283106)
i have an equal length no name manifold and its doing the trick but i don't know for how long?.. got my back up cast manifolds ready

gonna suck the day that ssautohoe gives up ...from what i understand merge collectors make a night and day difference..

Cole89ef 08-09-2009 12:04 AM

Will wrapping a SS manifold help it last longer?

Does anyone know if a TurboXS Ramhorn is a good manifold, theres a kid around here selling one for dirt cheap since he goes to jail next week if he can't pay restitution.

hunt_x 08-09-2009 05:04 PM

the wrap will not really help the manifold live longer and may increase the chance of cracking as it hold the exhaust gas heat in the manifold itself the turbo likes the exhaust gas to be hot and makes more power the hotter the air, because hot air has more volume thus spins the turbo with more force making more boost but trade off is the heat, you need to coat it from the inside the coating actually is a barrier applied to the inside (this coating is similar in formula to the coating use on the space shuttle exterior tiles) and it stops the manifold from absorbing the heat from the hot exhaust gas it will also stop your SS pipes from turning blue as well, if it doesn't,t get hot enough to turn blue it will not likely crack either and the exterior coating is just added protection and aids in the reducing under hood temperatures and heat soak to the area around it like any fuel lines and anything else that is close to the manifold, if you checked the link I posted you should see they have some sick colors it looks similar to anodizing but is more heat resistant than powder coating it's pretty easy to apply with an air brush and it can be cured in a regular oven.

cvcdx 08-10-2009 01:20 AM

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the equal length manifold is pending sale

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the new cast manifold mated to my turbo

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Originally Posted by edge(eg2) (Post 1283174)
gonna suck the day that ssautohoe gives up ...from what i understand merge collectors make a night and day difference..

sorry for the thread jack OP

hunt_x 08-10-2009 09:30 AM

Shout out there cvcdx I see your just across the way in Surrey thats close enough to me I could do that manifold for you if you wanted it done just put that ---- on greyhound parcel express and I could have it back to you by Friday if I got it on a Monday with no problem then you could run your cast and see if it works just as well with your set up as the SS I think the SS is the better for mid and top end. I don't have the colors here in stock they have to come from Texas so I need a week heads up and what color you would like I could do your valve covers and a few other bits and pieces in color to for a few $ extra PM me if you interested and I can give you a good price

cvcdx 08-10-2009 01:01 PM

if the equal length wasn't pending sale i would defenitely take you up on the offer... since your from the island, do you have any feedback on zensports tuning?

hunt_x 08-11-2009 12:41 PM

well I saw a pantera with a built TT 406 small blk ford that they tuned and it was pretty sick but running Mega squirt and thats pretty easy to tune and I heard some one working there was talking ---- about a SR20 build I did for a local kid I personally have yet to go down there sooner or later I will have to get some ---- on their Dyno unless I make the next big jump and get one of my own but that would mean I would have to spend most of my time tuning to make it pay and I would rather just build as thats what I love to do.


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