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Old 04-21-2003, 07:30 PM
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dude it takes power to make power and exhaust gas is wasted power, think about it its gonna take power to turn that thing.

try it out and dyno it, would be sweet if it works. but i doubt you gain anything and it will sound like a squirrel under the hood, the real ones i have seen are 700cfm and claim 3-7 hp. and thats for $300...

ill take the 55 shot for $500 pat
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Old 04-21-2003, 10:30 PM
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you see, this is sad. you think I haven't seen those garbage fans they sell at the army navy store. This is a heavy duty blower motor that is from a furnace. It actually costs about $150 but was donated by my father. this blower purpose is to take the ehaust fumes out of your house after the natural gas in your furnace ignites. It will seriously move some air. I don't know what to do because a: the motor is residential use that runs on 110volts and b: the motor only turns at peak of 3300rpm. I any more comments would be appreciated as long as you don't talk ---- and tell me it's already been done and failed.
look man, it wont work...
you cant make power from nothing which is essentially what your trying to do.
Lets pretend the 12Vdc to 110Vac conversion with enough amps was enough to power the fan and the fan needs 100amps and thats what your alternator makes but only makes that much power when it is under full load... so your taking 100% of engine power to run the alternator to power the blower. Do you see how it wont work?
Im having trouble explaining this but if you ever do anything engineering related you will understand.
Basically the same way as how you cannot lift yourself up by grabbing your feet and pulling upwards like people in cartoons do.
i am trying to find a motor that is not rated at 100 amp draw, and besides they do wind alternator to 150 amps and so on.i understand the engineering part of this and this is why i ask questions so that others could possibly help me and not ridicule.
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Old 04-21-2003, 10:53 PM
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I think it sounds like it'd be great if it worked out! I agree with Jeff that if it makes your car go faster, go for it. Even if for just like 20 HP, it's better than nothing. It's not totally power out of nothing... wouldn't that be what a supercharger does too? it takes a bit of power from the crank and converts it into forced air into your intake. Who says that can't be done electrically? (I may be way off, my alternator knowledge is limited)

Also, wouldn't you need a way to set up the wiring so that it only turns on full blast at wide open throttle? Then you would have to wait for it to get going.... "electric turbo lag" hahaha.... maybe keep it at a low speed and then at WOT have it kick into serious motion, or with an RPM switch like ghetto VTEC setups. And as far as the air backing up into the fan when you gt off the throttle, would a basic blow off valve upstream of the turbo do the trick?
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Old 04-22-2003, 07:07 AM
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I can't believe this conversation is even happening............
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Old 04-22-2003, 09:04 AM
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Well I've heard that BMW has a electric blower in a car...don't know which though..maybe a prototype.
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Old 04-22-2003, 09:32 AM
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actually ran into a guy te other night at car show, had a 1.5HP leaf blower hooked up, and run off a toggle switch on the dash. he said it puled pretty good, but admitted it wasnt as good as a real turbo. BUT, he said he picked it up at a garage sale for like $25, and bought a 12V to 120V converter at wally-world. at least he hooked it up decently, and it flowed pretty good with it turned off, so he said. give it a shot, what's the worst that'll happen, you'll end up breaking it up with a bat in your driveway.
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Old 04-22-2003, 10:13 AM
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First off I have a 99 Integra GSR (Stock), a 2001 4 Door LS (Stock), and a 91 CRX Si (Stock).

I called a high-end dealer of these electric turbos. I told them that before I buy the item I wanted to see Dyno proof. Well after finding out this guy was a friend of a friend of mine, we took their E-RAM electric turbo and I went to my local shops Dyno. After three pulls on each car the results showed that there was a change... But not in peak HP! It actually decreased the peak HP but on all three cars it did smooth out the curve.

These pulls were performed the same way and the E-RAM was turned on at WOT. (Which was the whole pull!)

So in the end... These things are just not worth it! They give you little to no HP gains and actually act as a restrictor on your intake.

Hope this helps.
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P.S. I spent nothing to do this above. I even got the E-RAM guy to pay for the Dyno pulls.
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Old 04-22-2003, 11:15 AM
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thank all of for your help unless you have been ignorant at telling me it will not work. i am going to try this with a fmu and see if anything happens. if it blows up, it was on a 86 civic si that I purchased for $100. i am currently searching for 2nd gen dsm turbo parts for my 98 ex. i already have everything except for the bov, and oil and coolent flanges,and 02 sensor. i realize the electric turbo or blower isn't going to give me gains like a real turbo would, but i am just tinkering.
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Old 04-22-2003, 12:21 PM
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I'm not being ignorant, just stating the obvious. Go ahead and try it. It won't affect me in any way. I won't be out any money and I won't care if you are. I will just sit back and laugh. Good luck with it. At least you are planning on getting an actual turbo. I'll give you a round of applause for that. I'm just not a believer in the electric turbo. Sorry if I sound ignorant about it. If you prove me wrong, then I will be shocked as will everybody else here.
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Old 04-22-2003, 01:01 PM
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Actually they should not even classify them as a "turbo" because it is only a fan. Like a leaf blower. It does no compression of the air. It just sucks (pun intended) and it blows. (pun intended)

And after all the testing in the world it made no HP gains. So please do not waste your hard earned money on these cheap gadgets.
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