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Old 09-09-2007, 07:26 PM
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i have a chance to get an alcohol injection kit in a trade and I tried to find the product but no luck. my part of the trade would be some '02 954 cbr ITB's

its a plate that goes in between the tb and IM. has 2 ports for stock injectors with a mini fuel rail and hoses. i was told your supposed to run the stock washer fluid pump and resevoir.

i havnt seen any kits that use actual injectors. just nozzles with highpressure pumps.
i want to use it on my boosted minime- t3/t04b on the stock block with crome
was only planning on 8psi right now for reliability

anyone seen this type of kit?
would it be worthit on my setup?
any insight is appericiated

would post **** but i am using my gf's moms computer. sorry.
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Old 09-09-2007, 10:47 PM
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Got a name of the brand of that kit?
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:12 PM
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Got a name of the brand of that kit?
not sure on the brand. its a billet aluminum plate with 2 ports for injectors. about 1.5 inches thick
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:24 PM
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I'll buy the ITBs for $50.
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:37 PM
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stock washer fluid pump? I wouldnt trust it for water injection. Get a Devil's Own kit for $185

http://www.miataturbo.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5436
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stock washer fluid pump? I wouldnt trust it for water injection. Get a Devil's Own kit for $185

http://www.miataturbo.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5436
yeah i have been thinkin if it would even put enough pressure to supply the injectors consistently. i wish it was a Devilsown kit, to far down on my wish list to fork out 200 big ones.

could i run a diff pump for more pressure? would the extra psi be 2 much and spray 2 much water? i need to research this ----.

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I'll buy the ITBs for $50.
if i decide to sell them i'll let you know. but there a built minime in my hatch thats screamin for some itbs
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Old 09-11-2007, 11:00 PM
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if i decide to sell them i'll let you know. but there a built minime in my hatch thats screamin for some itbs
On a NA D16 it'll be a dissappointment. Loud, sounds impressive, good luck breaking 140 whp.

I don't want them for a NA D16.
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Old 09-12-2007, 05:06 PM
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On a NA D16 it'll be a dissappointment. Loud, sounds impressive, good luck breaking 140 whp.

I don't want them for a NA D16.
ok. i'll let you know if somthing falls through and they become forsale

these injectors are mounted straight, not angled or anything. would i run into a problem of the water hitting the wall and becoming not atomized?
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Default Re: questions about alky injection on boosted d16

the reason you havnt seen any of these kits using injectors instead of jets and solenoids is because i dont think a standard fuel injector could cope with water/injection over a long period of time, would corrode internally.
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the reason you havnt seen any of these kits using injectors instead of jets and solenoids is because i dont think a standard fuel injector could cope with water/injection over a long period of time, would corrode internally.
Stainless does not corrode internally.

The problem is that fuel injectors are designed to atomize gasoline, which lacks any significant surface tension, and has lower viscosity than water. Here are fuel injectors spraying water at 55 psig:



Those are streams, not droplets. See the problem?

There are a number of options that cut surface tension - acetone or other diluents - but it's un-ideal.

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