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IowaTCoupe 06-07-2008 02:51 AM

Project TURBO SUZUKI street bike
 
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2004 Suzuki Bandit 1200cc
streetfightered of course

everything is done EXCEPT for the oil drain from the turbo... Still debating on where to plumb that back to. OPtions are getting an oil filter sandwhich adapter and plumbing it back into that, or the oil drain plug w/ a banjo bolt, or the oil filler cap on the clutch cover.

PS--- i hate fitting braided lines!!!! I only bled once though! so that was good.

Now i just have to figure out how to get this jerk inspected... I'm not sure if a turbocharger is part of the "modified exhaust" statute in the RI ordinances? haha
Inspections suck.

But, here's picture time:

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^or could i run the oil drain to the plug under the red AN fittin? the allen bolt there?


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http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...a/P5010135.jpg
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td05 turbo
ssqv ebay bov
fabricated the exhaust mani / intake mani / charge pipes / dowpipe
blow through carb setups w/ jegs fuel pump and aeromotive bypass regulator


Final completion pics coming soon

Atticus 06-07-2008 03:02 AM

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very nice
wrap the manifold when you get a chance

bigdaddyvtec 06-07-2008 04:39 AM

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------- awesome... BUt the orange makes my poor little brain hurt... LOoks good, i like the intake

HMTguy 06-07-2008 04:41 AM

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What turbo is that? What management?

I vote front page for turbo, pizza and beer even though you drink shitty piss water.

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bigdaddyvtec 06-07-2008 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jagojon3


I vote front page for turbo, pizza and beer even though you drink shitty piss water.



x2

t_cel_t 06-07-2008 06:08 AM

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if my pizza knowledgablities are correct i would say that is little ceasars?

Jorsher 06-07-2008 01:05 PM

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That's pretty darn cool. Is fuel management needed for carburated motors, or do you just tweak it?

The Milk Man 06-07-2008 01:12 PM

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Looks awesome, good use for a spare DSM turbo. But, doesnt the track require that your levers have ball ends??
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IowaTCoupe 06-07-2008 03:13 PM

turbo project
 
Thanks guys... Front page would be awesome 8)
Lets see if we can answer some questions...

Yea, spiked bar's are not acceptable at any track, I had the balls, but one snapped off during my wreck after T-boning a 120lb black lab at 11pm on a back road :X F*kn dog!

Turbo is a td05 off a mid 90's eclipse, THEN off of a 91 accord, then into my basement for some cleaning, and an internal rebuild. Now she's fresh!

About the orange...The gf already nicknamed my bike Tony. (you'll know why when you see the tank / tail / fender)

Not little ceasers... but they're good too! This is a little local place, called Chicago Pizza... even though i live 1000+mi from Chicago.



Carb's do need a bit of tweaking to work. There are 2 main types of carb setups that work with Boost. Blow through and Draw through. Respectively, the turbo is blowing or sucking throught the carb. A draw through is putting fuel through the turbo, and only uses one carb... i didn't want to mess with that, plus it makes it more dangerous with combustible air in your charge pipes if there is a backfire. KABLAM!!!
So i went with the Blow Through setup.
Theory of it is simple... carbs suck fuel and atomize it through pitot/static tubes (jets)
Carbs have float bowls... they let fuel in through gravity, and when it fills, the little float blocks off the valve and says, that's enough fuel!!!!!!!! (KINDA LIKE YOUR TOILET, W/ THE FLOATING PLUNGER INSIDE... WELL, EXACTLY LIKE THAT) That is why most carbs for 4 stroke engines don't work upside down.

So... If you have 6lbs of boost, the air pressure would just force all the fuel back out of the carbs... Lean out the engine, and just shut it off. (not blow up)
To counter act that... WIth 6lbs of boost, you need 6lbs of fuel pressure. A 1:1 ratio.
For this, you need a constant fuel pump, with a 1:1 bypass fuel pressure regulator. (meaning... zero boost, zero fuel pressure.) If you get this right, the carb will act as a stock carb... in boost and not in boost. As long as you have a Pitot boost referance source for the bypass regulator, and NOT a static source. Static acts like a venturi tube, creates vaccuum from passing air (like blowing over a bottle top) Pitot is like RAM air... It is direct, and the source is unobstructed, and pointing towards the oncoming flow.

However, Pitot and Static matter not as much while IN BOOST, because while in boost, these properties are tossed out the window... The charge system will now act as a pressure source. WHich is a whole other cup of soup.

The main issue is the transfer from n/a to boost. That is why the pitot source works best.



LilWayne 06-07-2008 03:48 PM

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R u still in school here in Rhode Island. (URI)

That ---- is sick I would love to see that thing in person!

+1 on front page

SDRAWKCAB 06-07-2008 05:31 PM

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SICK! ;D

con 06-07-2008 05:47 PM

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pimp

IowaTCoupe 06-07-2008 06:20 PM

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towdogg - I live in R.I. and am here now. I went to school in Iowa, and also in NH

LilWayne 06-08-2008 12:06 AM

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sweet

I live in middletown

IowaTCoupe 06-08-2008 11:49 PM

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STARTED IT UP TONIGHT!!!!!wOOT WOOT! a little bit of happy :D and a little bit of angry :angry:

Turned the bike on, turned the switch for the fuel pump and oil sump (the inline pump)

heh heh heh.... Well the plan for the inline Outboard Boat engine fuel pump didn't stack up as an oil return sump. More like a PLUG! Oil filled up in the turbo, and out the seal. She became a mosquito killer!

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^mosquito killer.

I'm running the oil return back to the oil filler hole on the clutch cover.

SO... we just bypassed the "oil sump" and ran the hose straight back. Turns out she ran very well after that, turbo was goin good... except a little steady stream of oil back out the exhaust.

Also found out the #2 exhaust runner has a leak where it goes into the head. Damn... TIme to pull it ALL OFF and get some orange high temp silicone in there :ban:

Where's a good place to buy a scavenger oil pump / sump? I'm hopin less than 100$

I don't want to tap into the oil pan itsself. Not a happy idea to me. Plus there really arn't any good places to tap either.


http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...115+4294820649
seems to be the best price, hope someone can find a cheaper one!


Here is a video of tonight you may get some info on the setup.
no sound, sorry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJCUdf8LL3w

~Kevin
PS- I WANT THIS DONE FOR LACONIA!!!

Smith-02 06-08-2008 11:56 PM

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fap

juli0_bustamante 06-09-2008 01:15 PM

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------- tits!!!

-SKUM- 06-09-2008 03:18 PM

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where the hell is toughguy. Im sure he would be sucking your nuts by now. :o Bike looks good!!!!!!!!

thatblkguy 06-09-2008 04:18 PM

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vERY NICE SET UP


My co worker just finshed his turbo bandit but his is set up for drag. it uses a mega squirt for the ems since its converted to FI.

Here you go youll never find what your looking for if you search under scavenge pump


this ones cheap and works 69.99 bucks
http://www.cycle-logicmotorsports.co...18f05a231765bf


lilpooh21186 06-09-2008 05:36 PM

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yea another 1 for RI too bad you sold the coupe though i wanted to race you before you got rid of her

mycarslow 06-09-2008 06:22 PM

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thats cool as hell what is the use of this bike for you race/ street /stunt?i just bought a 01 vfr 800 for my frist bike and love it

crxtuner 06-09-2008 06:47 PM

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That shits gonna pull harder then ----, +1 for the build that goes outside of what we see here every day.

bigdaddyvtec 06-09-2008 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ratcityrex
where the hell is toughguy. Im sure he would be sucking your nuts by now. :o Bike looks good!!!!!!!!


BANNEDZOREZ!!!

Tough guy b gone.

lilpooh21186 06-09-2008 11:22 PM

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bike + boost will turn you inside out

crx2fast 06-10-2008 11:21 AM

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my pants are all wet :6

IowaTCoupe 06-10-2008 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by thatblkguy
vERY NICE SET UP


My co worker just finshed his turbo bandit but his is set up for drag. it uses a mega squirt for the ems since its converted to FI.

Here you go youll never find what your looking for if you search under scavenge pump


this ones cheap and works 69.99 bucks
http://www.cycle-logicmotorsports.co...18f05a231765bf



THANKS !!!!!!!! That just saved me a bunch. I had placed an order for 225$ with the other place, and they said it'd take 3-4 weeks. And this ones just 70$! awesome.


Originally Posted by lilpooh21186
yea another 1 for RI too bad you sold the coupe though i wanted to race you before you got rid of her

Man, i sold that thing over a year ago~~~ lol i do miss her though


Originally Posted by mycarslow
thats cool as hell what is the use of this bike for you race/ street /stunt?i just bought a 01 vfr 800 for my frist bike and love it

Daily Driver! haha. Occational track day

McBoost 06-10-2008 09:29 PM

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Badass project... looks like fun.

Ludique 06-10-2008 11:22 PM

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PLZ post pics of exhaust manifold and specs of pipe used.

Rat like I like it, beautiful... enjoy.

IowaTCoupe 06-11-2008 02:00 PM

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Pics will come soon. Gotta fix a leak in the header gasket.
Used Stainless 1.25" Weld Els from AceStainless.com
And straight tube 1.25" stainless.
The manifold to block flanges came from the stock header.
The manifold to Turbo flange, i had a friend plasma cut for me at his work. (he builds barges)

HiProfile 06-11-2008 02:27 PM

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That turbo 4runner that was on here had a pump about that price, you can get them on ebay and ----. It apparently worked really good, and wasn't big IIRC.

J-SMITH69 06-13-2008 02:39 PM

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im making a note here. HUGE SUCCESS

i'd like to do that to my xb. FI rules, and so does free tuning software for the buells :)

IowaTCoupe 06-13-2008 10:57 PM

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^ um... as Tim Taylor would say... euUuUURGH? huh? This isn't FI, it's carbed~
and isn't an xb a toaster/scion?

I WANT MY OIL PUMP NOW! i ordered it TUESDAY, and the order is still "Processing" :S :7

cyclelogicmotorsports.com = slow :1

J-SMITH69 06-14-2008 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaTCoupe
^ um... as Tim Taylor would say... euUuUURGH? huh? This isn't FI, it's carbed~
and isn't an xb a toaster/scion?

I WANT MY OIL PUMP NOW! i ordered it TUESDAY, and the order is still "Processing" :S :7

cyclelogicmotorsports.com = slow :1

what are you retarded

i'd like to do that to my xb. FI rules, and so does free tuning software for the buells

sohcpwr 06-14-2008 09:52 PM

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i just picked up an 86 gsxr 750 im planning on making a "naked" bike out of.... Naturally its gotta have a turbo too, more info on setting those carbs up for boost please. I searched on the intraweb with no success, just automotive carbs. I know you need solid floats and the rising rate pressure regulator, anything else you had to do?

IowaTCoupe 06-15-2008 04:00 PM

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no, you don't need solid floats. The floats will be fine. THey've been tested to 30+psi. Think of it like an Egg or submarine. Outside pressure pushing in, it can take alot of pressure. I had to lower the floats 2mm, Add two shims under the main needles, turn the air fuel mixture screws out to 3 turns, and re-size the main jets.

The fueling is pretty simple. The fuel pump circulates fuel from tank to bypass regulator, to tank. Zero pressure, just free flowing.... until you hit boost.
One pound of boost, the regulator will match it with 1 lbs of fuel pressure. Therefore, 10lbs of boost = 10 lbs of fuel pressure.

krustindumm 06-15-2008 04:41 PM

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I put a greddy kit on an RX8 and the drain fitting was a banjo bolt that replaced the oil drain plug. Might be able to save some weight, complexity, and $$ going that route. Just build a little skid plate to protect the hose where it routes under the engine.

krustindumm 06-15-2008 04:45 PM

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I was just thinking, instead of running a fuel pump, what about connecting a boost reference hose to the fuel tank :8

There would of course need to be some check valves n ----, but it seems like it could be easier than adding a fuel pump.

Smith-02 06-16-2008 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by krustindumm
I was just thinking, instead of running a fuel pump, what about connecting a boost reference hose to the fuel tank :8

There would of course need to be some check valves n ----, but it seems like it could be easier than adding a fuel pump.

install a schrader valve into the gascap

MR_T 06-16-2008 02:04 AM

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holy ---- nicely done bro... I seriously got a hard on just looking at those pics

thatblkguy 06-16-2008 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaTCoupe
^ um... as Tim Taylor would say... euUuUURGH? huh? This isn't FI, it's carbed~
and isn't an xb a toaster/scion?

I WANT MY OIL PUMP NOW! i ordered it TUESDAY, and the order is still "Processing" :S :7

cyclelogicmotorsports.com = slow :1



My bad I should have told you to call from my understanding its only one guy who runs the shop. Give him a call when I placed the order he shipped it out an hour later.


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