paint that can withstand heat of turbo mani?
 

guys i'll be looking for a paint(Preferably black) that will be able to withstand the temperatures of the turbo manifold. i've heard 1200 paint burns off in about a week.

is there anything else i can try?

thank you for your help!

Luke

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i bought a paint from jc whitney that has help up awsome.
i painted the entire turbo except for the compressor housing which was aluminum and would'nt rust, and the turbo manifold. it's the stainless steel one. it's $25.00 a pint. it doesn't come in a spray, it comes in a small paint can.

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I use POR 15 paint, I use this paint from my manifolds or anything else that I need protection from high heat source. Yeah, they kind of pricey but will out last any of those spray paint crap. This is also a brush on, no spraying on. Painted my ----, a month ago and ---- still hasn't burnt off yet. Here is the site I got mines from. http://www.por15.com/

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check out eastwood.

http://www.eastwoodco.com/index.jsp

they have everything you need.

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how about powdercoating? idk if thats heat resistant at all.

anyone else have experience with the above mentioned products(jcwhitney, por-15, eastwood)?

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powder coat wouldnt work, u would need it to be a ceramic coating.

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^^ ah ok. i don't know much about powder coating..just that its supposed to be tougher than regular paint.. but that i guess doesn't mean heat resistant. ;)

ne one else?

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http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=941757

check out these coatings, pretty badass

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if I had a dedicated oven I would powdercoat everything. Gives a great shine and makes whatever the item easier to clean and offers greater scratch resistance. The process takes a certain level of heat to "cure" the item after it has been introduced by ionic force.

I believe the issue you will have is after introducing more heat then what the powder resin cures at it will start to chemically break down.. "melt" so to speak and eventually turn solid after cooling. The chemicals used in the process are very efficient as in they won't vaporized but just change form temporarily with high amounts of heat.

I have seen many things powdercoated and ran just fine like the block of an air cooled harley show bike, alternators and such, and I think maybe even the compressor housing of a turbo (I can't say for sure right now).

Powder coating will not work for the exhaust housing on the turbo, ceramic coating will be your best option.

If you want to discuss powder coating more I can provide additional pieces of info.

-ryan

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hmm. do you know more about ceramic coating? is that very costly? right now i think the only thing i would really need coated is the mani. maybe the downpipe. idk, can you coat any part of the turbo compressor?

thanks again :)

Luke

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yes you can coat all that ---- if you want

http://www.akarimotorsports.com/images/IMG_0953.JPG

This guy did the Wastegate housing, exhaust housing, manifold, downpipe & wg dump tube, and cylinder head

http://www.akarimotorsports.com/CoatingTurbo.html

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that looks REALLY good.. to bad i am doing a true HMT setup.. no money allocation for paint lol

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wow that coating is sooo nice!! but i'm sure its gonna carry a heavy price tag with it :'( because of its heat dispersant properties.. ..

ouch yah i just checked out the website. i dont' want to dish out that kinda cash for it.. :-\

guess i'm still on the look

-Luke

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i've often had the urge to just sandblast the hell out of some exhaust parts and somehow get them ceramic coated.. just don't know any place that does it local and I don't feel like paying shipping on sending my crap off.

I was wondering maybe you could get the ceramic coating yourself then take it down to the local jr. college and have them fire it in their kiln? Just a thought, anyone else care to comment?

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hmm.. i will have to look around for a place that can do ceramic coating. my dad can take anything in and get anything sand blasted(and welded too) for free. alum welding has a price tag cuz they don't have the tig welder

but anyways.. i'll look for places that can do ceramic coating i guess?

more discussion?

-Luke

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Quadnie, powders dont remelt when they are heated, unless they are a thermoplastic, which isnt used for looks, its used for function such as being a electrical insulator. What people are using for looks are thermosets, which once cured, wont reflow. There are high temp silicone based powders on the market used on parts that reach 1200-2000 degrees, but they dont offer any type of thermal barrier, only looks and are limtied in color to black and silvers. They are also very exspensive. Ceramic coating is what you are going to want to go with. I stock/apply a satin black manifold coating, just like the one pictured in the photos abaz posted. Im guessing it is probally the same product. Comp cams did a test using this coating, and measured a temp drop of about 200 degrees measured one inch from the header, which is pretty good. It is solvent based and air cures, not heat required. It has a 5 day cure time, and can be applied with a spray gun. You can see it here:

http://www.trgperformance.com/NewPic...blackmani2.JPG

This was applied on a log manifold for a friend. If you want more info about the product or need some, lemme know.

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nissanspeed-- to be honest a large part of why i want this done is for cosmetics.. but having functional advantages would deffinitly be a plus...

unfortunatly to get the products that give those advantages are going to put out some high prices.. and that takes away from the whole idea of an HMT setup.

let me know what kind of prices i'd be looking at

-Luke

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I can sell you enough of the product to do a manifold for $20. All you'll need to do is sand blast it, and use a spray gun to apply it, and let air dry in a non humid environment for 4-5 days.

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just wandering why not ? powder coating is put on the metal magnetically and then baked, that ---- dents before it scratches. cause i wanted to powercoat a 3sgte mani black cause there is a place right down the road that powdercoats.

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Powder coating is put on electrostatically, and it does dent before it scratches. It has a 150+ inlb impact resistance, and a high abrasion resistance. It's a polymer, aka pretty much a plastic. Your conventional powders adhesion will break downin temps over 350+ degrees for long periods of time.

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they wouldent put ---- like that in there kiln. there expensive as hell. glaze is diffrent than ceramic coating it doesnt get hot enough and in biqsue fireing you would ---- the kiln up from having the metal in it.


you could always do it the orignal way you fire ceramics.

throw some coated peices under some logs. catch them on fire
keep a fire burning on top of them for like 5 days straight. slowly let the fire go out so theres no cracking.

sift through the ashes and find your melted parts you tryed to coat. ---- i dont know. but i do know a school wouldent touch that. thoes kilns are expensive as hell to fix. and they get pissed if little things like glaze drip on the firestone.

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thanx all ill haft to see if they do ceramics as well.