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bonylad 06-28-2006 04:13 PM

OK. I am going to do it. 2000 Civic Si HMT....
 
So I am gonna dive in here.

1. For fuel, till I get it tuned! Can I use 1G DSM injectors with a ballast box and a FMU?
2. I want it low key so I am thinking of a sidemount IC from a Supra MKIV (flows very well and is a bar and plate style isnt it?)
3. I will run low boost (say 6-7 psi) and it will be my daily.


Turbo will be a T3 (dont know specs) off a Saab 9-3 (2.0 liter I think it is), with a custom DP (weird flange), 2.5 inch exhaust, dont know what kind of manifold, with 2.5 inch charge pipes. Stealthmode lines, etc....

Goal:

Quick spool and decent power (maybe 200 at the wheels all said and done)


Suggestions?

ifly87 06-28-2006 04:21 PM

Re: OK. I am going to do it. 2000 Civic Si HMT....
 
What motor is in it? Just curious

bonylad 06-28-2006 04:39 PM

Re: OK. I am going to do it. 2000 Civic Si HMT....
 
B16A2 stock motor that came with it. Only ~43K miles.

I know that a SMIC is not a popular choice. But I figure Toyota put it in a 320HP stock car it can:

1. Flow more than enough for my needs
2. Get more than enough air to satisfy my "lofty" power goal.
3. Looks stealthy as all hell


bonylad 06-28-2006 04:42 PM

Re: OK. I am going to do it. 2000 Civic Si HMT....
 
A quick question though. I read the FAQ on oil lines and I see how too much oil pressure is bad for the turbo. Any link or part I should purchase to lower the
pressure (prefer something already set to a low pressure like a restrictor you place
in line with the oil feed line).

Also, for the water cooled aspect of the turbo, can I use the heater hose lines? Will that be ok?

TIA

Chris :1

robs99si 06-28-2006 05:56 PM

Re: OK. I am going to do it. 2000 Civic Si HMT....
 
just using a -3an steal braided oil line should restrict the oil pressure to where it needs to be. And you could use the heater hoses for the water cooling but most people only hook up the oil lines and just leave the water cooling alone.

StanB 06-28-2006 06:22 PM

Re: OK. I am going to do it. 2000 Civic Si HMT....
 
It's best if you use the stock injectors with the FMU.

ghettoturbo 06-28-2006 06:37 PM

Re: OK. I am going to do it. 2000 Civic Si HMT....
 

Originally Posted by StanB
It's best if you use the stock injectors with the FMU.

its not only best, 450s plus a regular fmu will not work, unless its the kind with a base pressure adjustment

ichbinsobose 06-28-2006 08:13 PM

Re: OK. I am going to do it. 2000 Civic Si HMT....
 
I used fuel lines for .70$ a foot for my water lines, works tits. Just get the cheapest lines...

bonylad 06-29-2006 12:02 AM

Re: OK. I am going to do it. 2000 Civic Si HMT....
 
I can use my stock injectors with a FMU? What FMU should I go with? 10:1 or 12:1?

Why can I use the stockers? Is it because they are a good size? Or because I dont have such a lofty goal? Read: What is the most safe boost I can use them at?

TIA


Chris

rprznt 06-29-2006 06:51 AM

Re: OK. I am going to do it. 2000 Civic Si HMT....
 
About ~6psi w/ a GOOD tune
god luck, power is in the tune...

bonylad 06-29-2006 08:12 AM

Re: OK. I am going to do it. 2000 Civic Si HMT....
 

Originally Posted by rprznt
About ~6psi w/ a GOOD tune
god luck, power is in the tune...


Well I dont know if its such a ragged edge I would be on. Maybe I should upgrade
the fuel just in case and to give me a margin of safety. Not to say I wouldnt tune
it, but still.


And I think I will go with a FMIC. ---- looks cheap and something about a FMIC on a
little Civic.


MAJORAHOLE 06-29-2006 08:20 AM

Re: OK. I am going to do it. 2000 Civic Si HMT....
 
you can use 450's with a v-afc.

drupie51013 06-29-2006 09:21 AM

Re: OK. I am going to do it. 2000 Civic Si HMT....
 
why use a fmu? it cost like 90 bucks and you can just get you ecu chipped for 75 bucks and get a set of 450dsm's and be safer. i wouldnt pay 150ish for a used vafc and 50-60 bucks for 450's when i can just get my ecu chipped.

bonylad 06-29-2006 09:24 AM

Re: OK. I am going to do it. 2000 Civic Si HMT....
 

Originally Posted by MAJORAHOLE
you can use 450's with a v-afc.

And that would be the famous VAFC hack I hear about?

Do I have to use 450's with a VAFC? So the ballast box makes it where I can actually
use that TYPE of injector, and the VAFC hack lets me control them.

So without a tune or some sort of fuel computer, just slapping those in with the box and a FMU will cause it to not run....or just real shitty.

Anyone have any other suggestions on what i should do?

zex_cool 06-29-2006 09:37 AM

Re: OK. I am going to do it. 2000 Civic Si HMT....
 
you need to read a LOT more before you start working on anything.
DO NOT ---- WITH THE FMU ! ! ! ! !
get your self a obd ll to obd l harness and just run crome/uberdata on obd l ecu.
where are you located ??

MAJORAHOLE 06-29-2006 09:38 AM

Re: OK. I am going to do it. 2000 Civic Si HMT....
 
stock injectors=fmu

450's =afc, crome, uberdata

but if you use the afc hack you need to get an MSD BTM

idiot-stick 06-29-2006 09:39 AM

Re: OK. I am going to do it. 2000 Civic Si HMT....
 

Originally Posted by bonylad
And that would be the famous VAFC hack I hear about?

Do I have to use 450's with a VAFC? So the ballast box makes it where I can actually
use that TYPE of injector, and the VAFC hack lets me control them.

So without a tune or some sort of fuel computer, just slapping those in with the box and a FMU will cause it to not run....or just real shitty.

Anyone have any other suggestions on what i should do?


There are so many ways to go about doing this here fruel setup (in order from shitty to awesome):
a) FMU, wideband (sucks ass)

b) 450's, resistor box, V-AFC (not too horrible.. you'll also need a wideband o2)

c) 450's, resistor box, P28, OBD2-1 conversion harness, wideband, chip burner and if you're a baller - get yourself an Ostrich


bonylad 06-29-2006 11:35 AM

Re: OK. I am going to do it. 2000 Civic Si HMT....
 

Originally Posted by zex_cool
you need to read a LOT more before you start working on anything.
DO NOT ---- WITH THE FMU ! ! ! ! !
get your self a obd ll to obd l harness and just run crome/uberdata on obd l ecu.
where are you located ??

Newport NC

rprznt 06-29-2006 07:30 PM

Re: OK. I am going to do it. 2000 Civic Si HMT....
 
pls take c) because your car wont blow ringlands an #### :)


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