Oil Restrictor?
I have a 93 turbo lude that smokes somthin fierce until the car is warm . I am pretty sure the seals are bad because of too much oil pressure when the car is cold. What can I do to restrict oil without changing my -4 oil feed line?Thanks
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what size is your drain?
does it go down, cant be horizontal. |
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you know what shortyz...
I am beginning to think that the gravity drain line business is just not true for all cars. I was working on a d16z6 yesterday where the oil drain tube goes down and then back up, then horizontal to the oil pan. We were worried that it was not getting the oil out. SO we pulled it off the pan and held it in the same spot where it would be connected. Fired the car up and oil came flying out! My thougts are that. If the feed line is pressurized then it still will drain because there is pressure behind it. The oil will flow where there is the least amount of ristriction. and if thats the drain line then thats where it goes.. This might have been a freak case where its ok with the length and angles used on the drain line i saw. |
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Dude I asked this same question about two/three weeks ago and never really got a straight answer just that I know you can buy restrictors from summit racing. I'm going to be using -3 line on mine cause I saw how big -4 was.
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My oil drain is -10 and goes straight down . The reason I think I need a restrictor is because the only time it smokes is when it is cold , once it is warm it will not smoke at all.
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doesnt a smaller line mean more pressure then? albeit less flow.
as far as the oil return, why dont people consider your plumbing under the sink? http://apachechemical.safeshopper.co...s/bd0i8jh5.jpg |
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I read on HT that a couple of guys were having the same type of problem and the oil restrictor was the answer . If anyone knows what might be causing this I am open to suggestions. Thanks
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Hey just buy a restrictor with a adjustable valve from summit I think they're like $50 at the most if that. It looks just like a butterfly valve adjust the valve to waht ever works best just as long as it's not starving the turbo and try to do it as far away from the block as possible. If you connect it at the block it'll restrict what comes out of the block not the line. Try it and see what happens. I know t's tough to spend money on things if your not sure but also remember if you wanna play you're gonna have to pay sooner or later.
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Thanks for all the help guys. I got 3 an fittings from summit , -3 to -4 reducer , -3 to 1/8 npt and -3 swivel coupling . This will reduce me down to -3 an at the turbo , all for just over 10 bucks! I have part #'s if you guys need them.
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ok first u need to know what the inside of a turbo looks like. (the oil housing).
http://www.dynamicturbo.com.au/images/modholset4.gif look where the oil is pushed in, it is pushed into the bearing housings at 30-60psi. now the oil lubricates the shaft and gravity starts to take over, u cant have pressure after the bearings because the drain goes to the oil pan, and there is air in this line. i really suck at explaning ill give an example/ if you crimp your garden hose it builds up pressure, fast because its a closed system with a restriction. (the turbo bearings are this restriction) Now when u un-crimp the hose the water coming out the end has 0 pressure because it cant pressurize the atmosphere. (---- did that make sense?) basically lookit your return hole. theres a big space in there. pressure is lost once the oil leaves the bearing because below the turbo is an open air system (your oil pan and hose) BLKAH!!!!!! |
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I am not trying to restrict the oil drain , but hey thanks for the detailed explaination.
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crx88si didnt understand.
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what is a safe level for the turbo? how can you be sure you have too much pressure, and how can you know what is safe with a restrictor? 50bucks is pricey. i bet you can do the same with a series of different sized hoses and adapters, but first we need some values.
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uhm u can do it.
use a oil pressure gauge and a needle valve see the other post in FI about it. |
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why not try a oil cooler, wouldn't that slow the pressure down? and it will also help the turbo.
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Originally Posted by shortyz
crx88si didnt understand.
As long as the oil drain is facing down it doesnt matter what the tube does after that. we did a test. the drain tube went down, did a 180 and then did a 90 to go around a charge pipe and into the oil pan. it was d16z6si's car. http://www.uoguelph.ca/~pcalak/PICS/...HookupIHI3.jpg http://www.uoguelph.ca/~pcalak/PICS/...HookupIHI4.jpg that last pic is as if you were laying on your back looking at the oil drain. we pulled the drain line off the pan and held it in the same spot and oil came flying out. |
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