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89dxhunchback 11-20-2004 01:10 AM

Re:Oil coolers
 
But you do have a thermostat on your coolant, which is directly related to your oil. The intercooler has nothing to do with the oil ( unless your lucky enough to have bad oil seals and your turbos spits it in your charge piping ).

HMT-Admin 11-20-2004 07:17 PM

Re:Oil coolers
 

Originally Posted by crx88Si
b16's COME with oil coolers (built into the filter adapter)

Actually no, USDM Hondas dont have Oil coolers. Almost all JDM engines I have seen have oil coolers located behind the oil filter.

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/turbo/...o/oilfeed3.jpg

Note the cooler under the Oil feed.

Is it a good idea to have a oil cooler? yes.. just like anthony said, most factory produced turbo charged cars have them. And even they upgrade to external coolers.

http://www.automotiveforums.com/jaco...r/DSCF0053.jpg

Here is a DSM one.

Me personally I've never ran one, because I change my oil around every 1k. I dont give the oil a chance to break down. ;)



Minor Threat 11-20-2004 07:36 PM

Re:Oil coolers
 

Originally Posted by rudebwoy
why is everyone saying you need a thermostat to use a oil cooler? I will have to say that's BULLSHIT! why would you need a thermostat? do you have a thermostat on your intercooler? I dont think so! oil cooler= intercooler for oil/liquid.

Oil isn't the same as air though.

Does air need to be within a certain temp range to work best? No. Colder is better, warm isn't good, etc.

How about oil? Do oils have certain temp ranges they should be run at for optimum performance of the oil? Yes.

You need a thermo valve because you don't want your oil getting too cold, and falling below it's proper operating temp. If you're just cruising around, you won't be heating the oil up that much, so there's no need for you to cool it down. Cold oil = less viscous = engine works harder.

J-SMITH69 11-20-2004 07:41 PM

Re:Oil coolers
 

Originally Posted by CDM

Originally Posted by rudebwoy
why is everyone saying you need a thermostat to use a oil cooler? I will have to say that's BULLSHIT! why would you need a thermostat? do you have a thermostat on your intercooler? I dont think so! oil cooler= intercooler for oil/liquid.

Oil isn't the same as air though.

Does air need to be within a certain temp range to work best? No. Colder is better, warm isn't good, etc.

How about oil? Do oils have certain temp ranges they should be run at for optimum performance of the oil? Yes.

You need a thermo valve because you don't want your oil getting too cold, and falling below it's proper operating temp. If you're just cruising around, you won't be heating the oil up that much, so there's no need for you to cool it down. Cold oil = less viscous = engine works harder.

oil will never fall below its operational temp. NEVER. show me something that will cool it that much... spray it with liquid nitrogen? comon seriously you acually think you could cool it that much with air hitting it...

89dxhunchback 11-21-2004 12:44 AM

Re:Oil coolers
 
You'd be surrpised how well air moving at 80mph can cool stuff...

Next time your at Mcdonalds get a large fry, then drive about 80mph with them out the window and I garentee you they'd be cold ( and you just wasted $2.00 !! ) within 20seconds... And that's even true in Florida...

rudebwoy 11-21-2004 07:27 AM

Re:Oil coolers
 

Originally Posted by 89dxhunchback
You'd be surrpised how well air moving at 80mph can cool stuff...

Next time your at Mcdonalds get a large fry, then drive about 80mph with them out the window and I garentee you they'd be cold ( and you just wasted $2.00 !! ) within 20seconds... And that's even true in Florida...

stupid comparison! oil is constantly getting heated, even if you spray the cooler with nitrogen it will be hot in a second you will never cool the oil below normal temp....a HUMVEE have a oil cooler big as the radiator and no thermostat the oil never gets too cool it its steeming hot...a civic with a 14x7x1 oil cooler will not get to cool... physically imposible, even though I'm stationed in Germany, which is always cold.

Reddy 11-21-2004 08:45 AM

Re:Oil coolers
 

Originally Posted by 89dxhunchback
You'd be surrpised how well air moving at 80mph can cool stuff...

Next time your at Mcdonalds get a large fry, then drive about 80mph with them out the window and I garentee you they'd be cold ( and you just wasted $2.00 !! ) within 20seconds... And that's even true in Florida...



Let's not forget that the oil than runs into a turbo which has exhaust gas temps going through it at temps above 1000 degrees. So after your done sticking your fries out the window than throw them in the oven at 1200 degrees and see how cold they are :-\

d16forlife 11-21-2004 09:55 AM

Re:Oil coolers
 

Originally Posted by oxsleeperxo
I had the same question :), why don't many people run oil cooler on their setup?

I ran one on mine.I could actually grab my oil feed line and hold it for a couple seconds.

I think more people should run them.Its really an overlooked necesity IMO :-\.Then we wouldnt have so many "why is my car overheating" threads in the summer ;).

hotrex 11-21-2004 09:47 PM

Re:Oil coolers
 
i think id run one if i actually thought my motors would last long enough to deserve one...

fyi, a good way to test the temp of your oil is to crack the pan nut and let the oil dribble on your nutsack, if it is painful, the oil is hot, it its not, its cold :-X

88b16civic 11-22-2004 10:07 AM

Re:Oil coolers
 

Originally Posted by rudebwoy
why is everyone saying you need a thermostat to use a oil cooler? I will have to say that's BULLSHIT! why would you need a thermostat? do you have a thermostat on your intercooler? I dont think so! oil cooler= intercooler for oil/liquid.

Before you start running your mouth off and making people think you know what your talking about, do some RESEARCH. On a intercooler the heat exchange increases the density of the charge and decreases detonation. Cooler is always better until gas vaporization is limited (never get this cold with an ambient temp intercooler).

But I hope you even know from changing your oil when your engine is kinda warm that temp affects viscosity and lubrication. If its too cold then your ------- your engine. Know what your talking about or STFU


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