Oil coolers
 

I dont see a lot on here about oil coolers. Does any one run them? Would anyone be interested in them if I started carrying them on the web site www.speedpartsrus.com? Let me know what you think. Almost all stock turbo cars come with them. It would be a good safety add on for your engine.

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I had the same question :), why don't many people run oil cooler on their setup?

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a lot of people do, but they are cheaply and easily had because tons of cars run them stock.

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If I gave a ---- about my motor I would run one. My motor has not proven itself worthy enough for parts like oil coolers. :-\

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b16's COME with oil coolers (built into the filter adapter)

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for the d series enthusiast, its worth noting that the d15b6 a.k.a. HF engine comes with an oil cooler that will fit on any other d series, which do not come with the cooler..

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Are you talking about the metal thing between the filter and the block? I was thinking more along the lines of an external core, like a small radiator.

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I am interested in a oil cooler, and my friend is also, by b16 did not come with one so would like to insatll one,, would this oil cooler comes with the block adapter? thats the main part I needed.

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Great idea, i think you should carry it with a thermostat option. Most people dont realize that the oil is optimized for a temp range and that it wont lubricate effectively below that temp (the oil cooler without thermostat will cause more wear).

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Yeah I started looking into this but then with things like the thermostat you are adding more parts (that can fail).

Would your coolers come with a user changeable or specified temperature thermo valve?

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do you guys actualy think a fanless oil cooler will cool the oil enough to where it won't be efficient? i don't know much bout dem der oil coolers but oil gets super hot in a boosted car and i don't think an oil cooler will cool the oil to where it's inefficient. unless the car is daily driven in Alaska :-* then again i maybe wrong.

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i am thining about connecting stock b16 oilcooler to some front mount water radiator with pump and reservoir. what do you think about it? will it work?

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if the price is right i'd buy one. they'd have to be atleast 3/4" thick x 7"height x 14" length.

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The oil will still reach a proper operating temp. The temp for proper operation is much lower than people make it out to be. It isn't like 200 degrees or anything. If nothing else it can't hurt the car.

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Its also misleading that the HF "oil cooler" is an oil cooler. Honda put it there to help WARM the oil faster during inital start-up, not to cooler the oil. Same goes for the ITR's "oil cooler", the DSM "oil cooler"... They are not oil coolers !!!

As much as I'd like to order up a custom-coach oil cooler ( as all his products are great, at a great price ), I'm looking more towards a junkyard oil cooler from a old turbo volvo and the $25 summit-racing filter adaptor... Summit sent me a $20 free gift card, so I got the adaptor for like $10 !!!

2 reason I haven't done it..
#1 the therostat is needed and adds cost, and it IS just one more thing that can fail
#2 I can't even get my oil return to stop leaking, let along the 5-7 connections that an oil cooler would require !! ( But I guess that's where customC would come in with his fittings and stuff ).

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so. i want to connect that "oil-cooler" to reservoir and front mount radiator with pump. hw yuo think will it work?

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I am going to install one this winter while my car is off the road. I am building a hood and intake for it to increase effieicency.

I am also going to take my turbo oil from the same lines to make thing easier. I'm sick of my delicate block adaptors and oillines.

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why is everyone saying you need a thermostat to use a oil cooler? I will have to say that's BULLSHIT! why would you need a thermostat? do you have a thermostat on your intercooler? I dont think so! oil cooler= intercooler for oil/liquid.

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I am still looking into all this so I dont have prices and specks yet. I can tell you a thermostat is not a necessity. Factory turbo cars dont use them. The Eclips, 3000 GT and SAAB 900 and 9000s all have oil coolers with no Tstat. The ISUZU NPR and NRR turbo Diesel box trucks dont use a Tstat either. I will offer it as an option for drag cars that want to warm up faster at the track but I dont see it for street use. I was also thinking about a external oil filter adapter oil cooler combo. You would get the block adapter, the frame rail mount oil filer adapter(for the BIG Fram F7 oil filter, more oil capacity and more filter) and all the oil lines and fittings in one package.

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that sounds like a good oil cooling set up.

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But you do have a thermostat on your coolant, which is directly related to your oil. The intercooler has nothing to do with the oil ( unless your lucky enough to have bad oil seals and your turbos spits it in your charge piping ).

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Actually no, USDM Hondas dont have Oil coolers. Almost all JDM engines I have seen have oil coolers located behind the oil filter.

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/turbo/...o/oilfeed3.jpg

Note the cooler under the Oil feed.

Is it a good idea to have a oil cooler? yes.. just like anthony said, most factory produced turbo charged cars have them. And even they upgrade to external coolers.

http://www.automotiveforums.com/jaco...r/DSCF0053.jpg

Here is a DSM one.

Me personally I've never ran one, because I change my oil around every 1k. I dont give the oil a chance to break down. ;)

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Oil isn't the same as air though.

Does air need to be within a certain temp range to work best? No. Colder is better, warm isn't good, etc.

How about oil? Do oils have certain temp ranges they should be run at for optimum performance of the oil? Yes.

You need a thermo valve because you don't want your oil getting too cold, and falling below it's proper operating temp. If you're just cruising around, you won't be heating the oil up that much, so there's no need for you to cool it down. Cold oil = less viscous = engine works harder.

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oil will never fall below its operational temp. NEVER. show me something that will cool it that much... spray it with liquid nitrogen? comon seriously you acually think you could cool it that much with air hitting it...

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You'd be surrpised how well air moving at 80mph can cool stuff...

Next time your at Mcdonalds get a large fry, then drive about 80mph with them out the window and I garentee you they'd be cold ( and you just wasted $2.00 !! ) within 20seconds... And that's even true in Florida...

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stupid comparison! oil is constantly getting heated, even if you spray the cooler with nitrogen it will be hot in a second you will never cool the oil below normal temp....a HUMVEE have a oil cooler big as the radiator and no thermostat the oil never gets too cool it its steeming hot...a civic with a 14x7x1 oil cooler will not get to cool... physically imposible, even though I'm stationed in Germany, which is always cold.

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Let's not forget that the oil than runs into a turbo which has exhaust gas temps going through it at temps above 1000 degrees. So after your done sticking your fries out the window than throw them in the oven at 1200 degrees and see how cold they are :-\

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I ran one on mine.I could actually grab my oil feed line and hold it for a couple seconds.

I think more people should run them.Its really an overlooked necesity IMO :-\.Then we wouldnt have so many "why is my car overheating" threads in the summer ;).

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i think id run one if i actually thought my motors would last long enough to deserve one...

fyi, a good way to test the temp of your oil is to crack the pan nut and let the oil dribble on your nutsack, if it is painful, the oil is hot, it its not, its cold :-X

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Before you start running your mouth off and making people think you know what your talking about, do some RESEARCH. On a intercooler the heat exchange increases the density of the charge and decreases detonation. Cooler is always better until gas vaporization is limited (never get this cold with an ambient temp intercooler).

But I hope you even know from changing your oil when your engine is kinda warm that temp affects viscosity and lubrication. If its too cold then your ------- your engine. Know what your talking about or STFU

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At best without evaporation, the most air or any liquid can cool anything is to its temperature. How the ---- would it make it cooler. 83* outside temp=your fries will go from 120* to 83* with time

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not true, stick something in front of a fan and it will be cooler than room temperature.

regardless i agree with the majority of people in that the oil will NOT cool down below its operating temperatures.

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If we are arguing the the fact of whether the work or not, Why do the make them, and why do some cars come factory installed with them?

Also if you don't think that the oil can be cooled fast enough, Why does almost Every Factory Automatic Car come with a Transmision FLuid(basically an oil) Cooler? Even my little winter beater has one. If they were'nt effective I really don't think they would waste their time putting them on! Becaus ethe average Joe wouldn't know the difference and would pay more for the factory "Transmission Cooler" Option.

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I think its more an issue of will the oil get over cooled without a therostat... But your point does apply to the therostat... Why would the part be built if no one is supposed to use it?...

15months boosted, and I think I'm plenty reliable with MANY stupid trips to 120mph+...

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im bout to lock this ------- thread.

OIL COOLERS ARE A MUST ON A TURBOCHARGED ENGINE IF YOU WANT IT TO LAST.

OIL COOLERS ARE NEVER A BAD IDEA... I KNOW A GUY WHO BUILDS DRAGSTERS, CIRCLE TRACK RACERS, AND STREET RODS WITH MILD/WILD V8 ENGINES AND THEY ALL HAVE 2 OIL COOLERS.

oil coolers are not a bad idea on a high revving NA engine either. you can never cool the oil in the second it stays in the cooler enough to counter the however long it stays in the pan/engine/turbo/ext.

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maybe you should do some research! plus I was not talking about intercooler, it was a comparison... I've been a army certified mechanic for 7 years working on all types of heavy duty vehicles all have a engine oil cooler and tranny oil cooler even oil cooler thats cooled buy antifreeze and I never seen one over cool and never seen one with a thermostat... my N/A audi has an oil cooler with no thermostat and it never over cool, so dummy before you start talking about me not knowing what I'm talking about you go do some research.

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nothin like pushin in 5th and being surprised by 120mph + :-*

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OK FINE YOU WANT TO BE LIKE THAT >:( :(

Just kidding ;D

I can see we will need some real world testing on this. I have 93 Civic at the shop that I will be using for a test mule for some new parts. The oil cooler will be one of the first things. I will post pics and updates.

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the only test you need is the leak, and flow test for me.whenever you get them together, send me the price and I will send you the payment through paypal... make them available with the block adapter for civics..

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how much are you planning to sell teh oil coolers for? will it come with everything for it to be installed as in fitting, lines, etc?