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b16_destroyer 08-06-2004 03:44 PM

NX Ntercooler VS. Water to Air intercooler
 
This is going on a street car. The problem with air to water intercoolers is heat soak from interstate driving. Air to air is ok but I have to tune my car every time there is a temp change outside.
I don't want to put NOS on the motor because I have factory internals, and I am not running race gas because its too expensive.

Anyone have any experience with the NX Ntercooler sprayer?

Will it give me below 0 air temps like the air to water would?

Reddy 08-06-2004 03:48 PM

Re:NX Ntercooler VS. Water to Air intercooler
 
Spraying a $45 bottle of nitrous on an intercooler to cool it down is a complete waste of money and perfectly good nitrous IMO. If its a street car just get an air to air front mount and you'll be fine.


And I don't understand why you need to tune your car everytime there's a temperature change...did you convert that B16 fuel injection to a holly double pumper? MAP sensors are there for a reason

ssl2k 08-06-2004 03:49 PM

Re:NX Ntercooler VS. Water to Air intercooler
 
just setup the air2water and run a temp guage and then if you're about to hit some trips on the freeway load the cooler w/ ice and just monitor the water temps...

lol

it might get heat soaked after several hours but you have to make stops and ---- for gas so you can just pickup some ice then or whatever

just an idea

nathan

audioguru76 08-06-2004 03:49 PM

Re:NX Ntercooler VS. Water to Air intercooler
 
i remember reading an article (in Turbo & Hitech perf i think) where they put one on a buick GN and got the intake temps down below ambient air temperature, but not below 0.


ssl2k 08-06-2004 03:52 PM

Re:NX Ntercooler VS. Water to Air intercooler
 
also, wrap your upper charge pipe with heat wrap or cover it with a heat/sound damper material...they sell it at homedepot for like $15...it will keep your upper charge pipe from heat soakin

nathan

b16_destroyer 08-06-2004 04:17 PM

Re:NX Ntercooler VS. Water to Air intercooler
 
I have PVC pipes that don't absorb heat well. I am just looking for something to make my tuning consistent. Just 5 degrees difference in temp change keeps my car from running stoich rich or lean. 10 degrees difference and its like I had never tuned it.

Atleast with the Ntercooler I could tune it at that temp and be done with it. I could run a profec B boost controller and have a toggle switch between low boost and high boost. Then have the Ntercooler come on for the high boost run. My inlet pipe is also right behind the intercooler so I will be also getting some NOS in the engine. Nothing like a 50 shot but definitely enough to cool the temps down somemore.

Reddy 08-06-2004 04:24 PM

Re:NX Ntercooler VS. Water to Air intercooler
 
I think your going to amplify your problem of not being consistent. If you tune it to run with the nitrous, your always going to have to be spraying to be consistent and thats going to get damn expensive

88b16civic 08-06-2004 06:07 PM

Re:NX Ntercooler VS. Water to Air intercooler
 
You have a temp sensor in your intake manifold for a reason and it should be working. Your map sensor uses RPM, MAP and Temp to calc the mass air flowrate into your engine and hence the pulse duration. AF ratio should NOT depend on temp if your temp gage is reading right.

b16_destroyer 08-07-2004 09:38 PM

Re:NX Ntercooler VS. Water to Air intercooler
 
I don't have full datalogging capabilities right now because I am using the AFC hack. This NOS Ntercooler sprayer would only be for a high boost setting. Kind of like the Race Gas High boost settings.

I only drive the car once every 3 to 4 months. This is not a daily driver. It is a Race Car with working headlights and tailights.

Maybe I should address the question like this,

"If NOS was the cost of propane, do you think more people would have the Ntercooler sprayer?"

Xplocivic 08-07-2004 09:49 PM

Re:NX Ntercooler VS. Water to Air intercooler
 
Ummmmm, fogging your IC with NOS will not get NOS into your engine just by the intake being behind the IC. Even if some did get in there, it wouldn't be enough to make any kind of difference. Just get a FMIC and be done with it. And if its a race-car, then why are you taking long freeway trips with it? I don't get it.


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