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Noob Turbo Question
So I've been researching turbo's becuase i would like to eventually have a turbo z6 that comes close to maybe 300 hp?
I don't know. I just know i would like to run atleast 14's Anyway, There is information everywhere on how turbo's work, how the set up works, and where to get parts. But my problem is piecing it together. The only thing i could do right now, is just grab the parts, put it together, and hope for the best. But I would rather not just buy a bunch of stuff to not reach my goal. so on the to main question, how does one figure out what turbo parts EXACTLY he needs to achieve his goal? thanks |
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Main things to think about is:how much power you want to make? what size turbo,what size injectors, and how good a tune you can offer.
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Oh boy another one of these things.
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Don't spend any money until you've logged in 50 hours (obviously not all at once) of solid research and searching. You'll be a lot happier if you buy once and buy right. 300hp is really stretching it for a 14b if you want it to last, so a good t3/t4 or even 16g should suit your needs and allow you room to grow. Don't 1/2 ass on your engine management or fuel system at the bare minimum. If you can afford it, don't half ass anything. While used or knock-off parts are cheap; they usually are about dead, so buy new if possible. Don't buy any major components off Ebay if you want them to fit well, be reliable, and make optimum power. Don't try and rush a turbo set-up because it'll come back to haunt you. Take the time to gather everything up and then install. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by crx2211
Don't spend any money until you've logged in 50 hours (obviously not all at once) of solid research and searching. You'll be a lot happier if you buy once and buy right. 300hp is really stretching it for a 14b if you want it to last, so a good t3/t4 or even 16g should suit your needs and allow you room to grow. Don't 1/2 ass on your engine management or fuel system at the bare minimum. If you can afford it, don't half ass anything. While used or knock-off parts are cheap; they usually are about dead, so buy new if possible. Don't buy any major components off Ebay if you want them to fit well, be reliable, and make optimum power. Don't try and rush a turbo set-up because it'll come back to haunt you. Take the time to gather everything up and then install. Good luck.
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Step 1- Go to Barnes and Noble. Buy a book titled 'Maximun Boost', by Corky Bell
Step 2- Search Step 3- Read Step 4- Learn Step 5- Buy and build |
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Originally Posted by edge(eg2)
Man im pretty new here and started my build about a month ago had i posted some *"boo hoo help me trash"* like this you all would have most likely severed my nuts and beat my grandmother with a cactus...... let him research himself if hes lazy hell learn the hard way but +1 to what he said.......... >:D
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www.not2fast.com
Plug and play, stupid. Better learn on how to read a compressor map while your at it. And I know for a fact theres a thread about reading them, because I posted questions about it ~month ago. |
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meh, to be honest, maximum boost could have been a little better. I guess its a good intro book though. I was really looking for a little more out of it
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maxboost book over played just read all the ---- you see on here in every forum and you will be good
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IMO its the first thing someone new to turbocharging should invest time/money in. Yes it could use a facelift and a revised version with more up to date info, but it generally covers all topics well. For ~$20 its well worth it.
Just the same, everything anyone would want to know about the subject is also on this site or in the heads of its members. this link will show you a good compilation of what others have done...find one that is similar to what you have in mind and use it as a basis for you setup https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...?topic=81455.0 |
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sweet. thats what i was thinkin about doin anyhow.
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Remember, the most important thing about turboing a honda is the tune ;)
Good luck |
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WHAT THE ---- IS THIS??!?!? DID I JUST STEP INTO THE SUPPORT GROUP ON "THE VIEW"?
---- YOU PANSY ASS NOOB IT'S ALL ------- STICKIED! YOU PUT A ------- KIT ON THE CAR, CHIP THE ------- ECU, TUNE IT WITH A WIDEBAND + LAPTOP+ CROME FREE+ CHIP BURNER IT'S A ------- DEAD HORSE STOP BEATING IT DIE FAGGOT NOOB |
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Originally Posted by wafflesincars
WHAT THE ---- IS THIS??!?!? DID I JUST STEP INTO THE SUPPORT GROUP ON "THE VIEW"?
---- YOU PANSY ASS NOOB IT'S ALL ------- STICKIED! YOU PUT A ------- KIT ON THE CAR, CHIP THE ------- ECU, TUNE IT WITH A WIDEBAND + LAPTOP+ CROME FREE+ CHIP BURNER IT'S A ------- DEAD HORSE STOP BEATING IT DIE FAGGOT NOOB |
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Originally Posted by wafflesincars
WHAT THE ---- IS THIS??!?!? DID I JUST STEP INTO THE SUPPORT GROUP ON "THE VIEW"?
---- YOU PANSY ASS NOOB IT'S ALL ------- STICKIED! YOU PUT A ------- KIT ON THE CAR, CHIP THE ------- ECU, TUNE IT WITH A WIDEBAND + LAPTOP+ CROME FREE+ CHIP BURNER IT'S A ------- DEAD HORSE STOP BEATING IT DIE FAGGOT NOOB |
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Originally Posted by slo_crx1
This is where HMT lost its roots. :3 All the rest stands true, but HMT's members have lost the initiative to build their own stuff and actually use their brains. :1
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LOL I have no doubt that'll he'll respond:
"Oh so is it?" http://www.rightblueeye.com/blog/wp-...1/chinaman.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/canadian_sf...gifs/chong.gifhttps://static.flickr.com/6/10336601_98f664c11e_m.jpg |
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Originally Posted by wafflesincars
LOL I have no doubt that'll he'll respond:
"Oh so is it?" yes... i know i'm not that knowledgeable. I more or less stated that in the title. I got stuck.. i asked for help... my apologies for apparently getting on your nerves. If noobs annoy you so much, maybe you should have read the title first and just not entered this thread. If you would like to help me out, help me out If not, save your effort on calling me a noob and saying how pathetic I am for not being knowledgeable and go someplace else. thanks for reading... ;) |
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Originally Posted by 91civicsikid
this just in. all noobs are idiots and everybody starts out knowing EVERYTHING.
yes... i know i'm not that knowledgeable. I more or less stated that in the title. I got stuck.. i asked for help... my apologies for apparently getting on your nerves. If noobs annoy you so much, maybe you should have read the title first and just not entered this thread. If you would like to help me out, help me out If not, save your effort on calling me a noob and saying how pathetic I am for not being knowledgeable and go someplace else. thanks for reading... ;) |
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Originally Posted by eshaw
How about you save some ------- effort for everybody that has to come in here and either hold yr hand or tell you to read the ------- stickies before making dumbfuck posts. Yes, nobody started out knowing everything, but some people decided to be nice and put up stickies packed with info so others who want to learn can do so in one convenient location.
I made it pretty obvious that i HAD done a decent amount of research. And yes, i have read the stickies. and they have PLENTY of information on how turbos work and how to put one together They leave somebody plenty capable of putting a turbo kit together and having no idea what output to expect. I am not dissing on the write up. It was a good write up with good information. But It did not answer all of my questions therefore, here i am, asking for the answers to my question. and some are helping, Thanks |
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Originally Posted by 91civicsikid
wow... did you even read my original post?
I made it pretty obvious that i HAD done a decent amount of research. And yes, i have read the stickies. and they have PLENTY of information on how turbos work and how to put one together They leave somebody plenty capable of putting a turbo kit together and having no idea what output to expect. I am not dissing on the write up. It was a good write up with good information. But It did not answer all of my questions therefore, here i am, asking for the answers to my question. and some are helping, Thanks You have your stock motor, look up the amount of air it flows according to the factory (in cubic feet a minute or what have you) and the horsepower rating, divide the CFM by the horsepower rating to get a rough estimate of power production per cubic foot of air (a/f variables withheld). Now figure what horsepower rating you want from the set up, multiply that by your scaling factor (cfm/hp) and you'll get a rough estimate of the required amount of air to meet your goal. Then find a turbo who's efficiency island works correctly in the area that you need, i.e. not surging at your pressure level nor becoming a restriction. Manifold and other ---- doesn't matter in particular unless you're going for OMG JDM HOSPOWAH. A log on the street is fine. LOG CRX HHH DIAF. |
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Originally Posted by wafflesincars
I'll set this up for you, as it is really ------- easy.
You have your stock motor, look up the amount of air it flows according to the factory (in cubic feet a minute or what have you) and the horsepower rating, divide the CFM by the horsepower rating to get a rough estimate of power production per cubic foot of air (a/f variables withheld). Now figure what horsepower rating you want from the set up, multiply that by your scaling factor (cfm/hp) and you'll get a rough estimate of the required amount of air to meet your goal. Then find a turbo who's efficiency island works correctly in the area that you need, i.e. not surging at your pressure level nor becoming a restriction. Manifold and other ---- doesn't matter in particular unless you're going for OMG JDM HOSPOWAH. A log on the street is fine. LOG CRX HHH DIAF. |
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Originally Posted by fysh
Or if thats too difficult... umm ^^^ not2fast.com has a turbo calculator which pretty much does all the work for you. omg!
------- DIE NOOB |
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Originally Posted by wafflesincars
OMG SECOND POST
------- DIE NOOB |
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Originally Posted by fysh
I'll ------- eat your children.
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Originally Posted by wafflesincars
---- PISS ASS MONKEY BONES
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Originally Posted by wafflesincars
I'll set this up for you, as it is really ------- easy.
You have your stock motor, look up the amount of air it flows according to the factory (in cubic feet a minute or what have you) and the horsepower rating, divide the CFM by the horsepower rating to get a rough estimate of power production per cubic foot of air (a/f variables withheld). Now figure what horsepower rating you want from the set up, multiply that by your scaling factor (cfm/hp) and you'll get a rough estimate of the required amount of air to meet your goal. Then find a turbo who's efficiency island works correctly in the area that you need, i.e. not surging at your pressure level nor becoming a restriction. Manifold and other ---- doesn't matter in particular unless you're going for OMG JDM HOSPOWAH. A log on the street is fine. LOG CRX HHH DIAF. man, i knew you had it in you to actually finally give me some information. Maybe somebody should make a write up on "how to achieve you goals" with that info included and you can avoid "idiot noobs" like me in the future. |
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Originally Posted by 91civicsikid
THANK YOU!
man, i knew you had it in you to actually finally give me some information. Maybe somebody should make a write up on "how to achieve you goals" with that info included and you can avoid "idiot noobs" like me in the future. |
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I think you need to read a little more. a 14b is not really a good way to get to 300whp
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Originally Posted by Cray91
I think you need to read a little more. a 14b is not really a good way to get to 300whp
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Originally Posted by 91civicsikid
i think i'm getting a t3/t4
Might be a good idea to think about what trim/AR t3/t4 you're going to get. |
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Originally Posted by 91civicsikid
So I've been researching turbo's becuase i would like to eventually have a turbo z6 that comes close to maybe 300 hp?
I don't know. I just know i would like to run atleast 14's Anyway, There is information everywhere on how turbo's work, how the set up works, and where to get parts. But my problem is piecing it together. The only thing i could do right now, is just grab the parts, put it together, and hope for the best. But I would rather not just buy a bunch of stuff to not reach my goal. so on the to main question, how does one figure out what turbo parts EXACTLY he needs to achieve his goal? thanks |
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Originally Posted by Spenzo
That Fucker has got to be fully built dude. No way you are getting 300 out of a stock z6 without floating a valve or throwing a rod. You gotta go b-series for that ----.
You aren't going to float a valve on the Z6, if you have a good tune you can go for 300 if that's your magic number, with a little liquid knock protection. Otherwise that thing is going to let loose around >250. Noob, fist a chicken. |
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Originally Posted by wafflesincars
Noob, fist a chicken. |
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Huummm chickeenn ;D
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Originally Posted by SiFlyBy
dude, what do you have against chickens? ------- oneself would be a greater punishment.
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Are you aware that this forum is called 'forced induction', not '------- chickens'?
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Originally Posted by SiFlyBy
Are you aware that this forum is called 'forced induction', not '------- chickens'?
Besides the only Si that was ever worth two shits was a CRX Si. Ass hat. |
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