New Member with a Question
Hello Everyone, I am new and want to turbocharge my car soon. I know what to look for when looking for a Turbo, I have looked at compressor maps and everything but I would like everyone's input on which Turbo to get for my application. I have a 1993 Honda Prelude; 2.3L Bored .20 over with aftermarket J.E Rods and Pistons, 10:1 c/r. Forged internals, Of course. My bottom end is built but my top end is pretty much stock, Next to some porting and polishing that was done to it and hte 3 angle valve job. The engine code is H23A1, For those who wanted to know the code. Okay... on to the Turbochargers that I have chosen. I want to do the DSM setup and know everything that needs to be done. I have done research before I joined. I found on Ebay; Td05H-20G with DSM Manifold for $600. I read up on the compressor maps for this one and I was also looking into the Td05H-16G( Big 16G if that is incorrect) I looked at that ones compressor maps as well. I am not the greatest at reading the maps and that is why I have come here. From my knowledge I think that I will be leaning towards the 20G because it doesn't get as heatsoaked as the 14B and it also has better flow and more CFM than the 16G. My plan is to run 8-10 or possibly 12Psi. I don't want the turbocharger to run out of air by the time I hit 7,200RPM. I pretty much would like something that has peak power around 6,000RPM but still has enough "Air Pressure" or flow to 7,200 RPM. Also, who has a 14B on their Prelude? Does anyone have a DSM setup? Preferably on a H23A1 Prelude. Could I also get Dyno charts. Your input is very welcome, that is why I have come here. Sorry for the whole paragraph.
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Re: New Member with a Question
get a real turbo, ---- all of those.
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+ one on that ---- all of those turbos are too small for your 2.3 you would be dissapointed.
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i concur,
your engine, with that kind of work on it, can certainly support more power than a big 16g. the big 16g would work rather good for a few psi, i'm sure, but you'll see the end of it rapidly and when it's maxxed out, switching to a larger turbo such as a gt or t31/T04 will require redoing manifold, downpipe, wastegate and pretty much all other conections around the turbo because the big 16g is Odd . if you get a t3 flanged manifold + ext WG, you'll be able to switch turbos easily and cheaply as your project evolves. |
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Would you suggest I stay away from the whole DSM setup? I would like to keep the money to a minimum, I am not cheap but I'd rather not spend thousands more into the car. So what type of setup would you suggest? I am open to everyones suggestions as I am here to learn. Remember that I technically have a 2.4L and my compression ratio is next to stock. Stock is 9.8:1 and I have 10:1. Thanks for all the help. I would also like some insight as to how I read the compressor maps. Also, when do you think the 16G would run out of breath? Same with the 20G; running out of breath I mean. I prefer internal wastegate so there is less to mess around with. That equals less cost.
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Hey it's HMT, you can do anything but my call is: That's a nice engine. I would never retrofit dsm stuff on that.
oh and forget about internal wastegate. They work ok only for the hp they were designed for. You're 100x better with an external wg, even a knock off one. |
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You might get some sort of input at that point, as thus at the current time you have failed in a most spectacularly queer faggot fashion. PORN NOW ------..... Help later. Or..................... DIE |
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I figured that for the price of the whole HMT that it would be alright. I would just like to keep it simple. Thanks BLAAST. Also, Last I checked, this wasn't a pornography site. Lol. BLAAST; could you please suggest a setup for me? One that would work well, seeing how you know what you are talking about. I just don't want to spend much more than $1200 for an entire setup. Call me cheap but that is why I came to this site. I have heard lots about it and thought I would check it out.
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so you spend that money on a bottom and and you are goin to cheap out on the setup. when the setup you are planning to run could have been run on the stock bottom end. those turbos will fizzle out WAY to soon on that motor. i mean you can still do it for 1200 with our suggestions. look into a holset. from a dodge cummins. and a cast mani or make your own. you would be stupid to put a dsm setup on it. becuz someday you will want to update it and waste even more money. its just how it does. and with the c/r you are at would just ---- you even more on those dsm turbos.
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Originally Posted by bigdaddyvtec
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You might get some sort of input at that point, as thus at the current time you have failed in a most spectacularly queer faggot fashion. PORN NOW african american..... Help later. Or..................... DIE!!! |
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Okay, I will stay away from the cheap turbo then. I am not looking for insanely high numbers. I just want decent spool and be able to use it throughout my entire RPM range. Can someone put a kit together for a decent price? Not a prefab either. I will be doing more research on it then.
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Originally Posted by bigdaddyvtec
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Re: New Member with a Question
Originally Posted by Soon2BSpoolin
Thanks for the input. You've been a great deal of help. Don't know what I would've done without your help. I hope this isn't your way of joking around. I don't find it to be to funny.
a good setup: holset hy35 cdm front mount cooler crome management topmount nog log mani 3' dp + exh clutch the rest = be creative. your goddamn lucky to live this long on hmt already... die |
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Originally Posted by Soon2BSpoolin
Thanks for the input. You've been a great deal of help. Don't know what I would've done without your help. I hope this isn't your way of joking around. I don't find it to be to funny.
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Originally Posted by Soon2BSpoolin
Last I checked, this wasn't a pornography site
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lol he called porn "pornography". I bet he also uses the words: penis, vagina and sexual intercourse. :y
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Log + t3/t4 or holset hx35 + ebay fmic + xspower wg + xspower bov + open 3" dp + 6 puck clutch= your faggot ass is dont within budget I am going to go ahead and guess you didn't have the motor built, someone else did.
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I bought the car stock from a dealership. Couple of months after and went to a machine shop and had them overhaul the engine. I bought JE 10:1 pistons with matching floating pin connecting rods, Micropolished and balanced the crank along with everything else. After this I had it blueprinted. As for the head I ran out of funds after the pnp. I also purchased an AEM EMS, Venom 550cc injectors, MSD Ignition system, plus the normal bolt ons. I would post the reciepts if I could find them at this moment.
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Pics of the car
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I don't need to prove myself to someone that I don't even know. This site surely has some pathetic people posting on it. You guys want Porn; Go to a damn porn site. I came to this site to get some helpful information. You guys see noobs and figure that they don't know anything. Sadly mistaken. I will NOT be posting my car for you and I DID build the engine and the rest of what the car is today by myself.
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Soon2BSpoolin is an emo whiny litle bitch. :7
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HOLSET HY or HX 35 or even cheaper the HOLSET H1C
But the Hy is the top of the list for the smaller 9cm exhaust housing But it and sell it to me for trade of doing your mom"I'll post pics to save your life" WORTHLESS O0 |
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Wow, you bought AEM EMS and you're considering a dsm setup? You're a dumbass.
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Re: New Member with a Question
Originally Posted by Soon2BSpoolin
I bought the car stock from a dealership. Couple of months after and went to a machine shop and had them overhaul the engine.
Originally Posted by Soon2BSpoolin
\. I will NOT be posting my car for you and I DID build the engine and the rest of what the car is today by myself.
/THREAD BTW you also need a wb, heres a cheap one; https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...?topic=89857.0 |
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LOL, I actually did laugh. Meh to each his own. I didn't know people came here just to bash on others. I am not all serious but when I come here to ask for questions I at least expect some help. If there is an off topic place here then I guess you could type your ---- in there. Bash all you want. I don't care. Doesn't bother me.
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you are a ---- eating faggot please leave before you give other people coming to this site the wrong impression.
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Originally Posted by brine04
you are a ---- eating faggot please leave before you give other people coming to this site the wrong impression.
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Originally Posted by Soon2BSpoolin
---- eating faggot? Learn how to spell -------, it is spelled Fagget. You dumb fucks. You all need to get lives instead of being as gay as you are being right now. I will leave due to all of you stupid ass dicks on this site. Except for BLAAST. Have a nice life, Rot in hell.
BTW its faggot.... faggot |
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Originally Posted by bigdaddyvtec
May an Army of 1000000 negros hung like bulls ravage your sisters foul ---- hole.
BTW its faggot.... faggot |
Re: New Member with a Question
This is why they treat noobs like ----, https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...?topic=72536.0
Read up!!! and try agai. |
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Originally Posted by crxvtec91
This is why they treat noobs like ----, https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...?topic=72536.0
Read up!!! and try agai. |
Re: New Member with a Question
Originally Posted by brine04
Too late he fails, no second chance for this clown, And it really is faggot. I know these things with my edumacation.fagget
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Re: New Member with a Question
Why don't you guys get your father's dicks out of your asses then reply something that is even remotely related to the topic. I read the link and that is the most retarded set off rules ever.
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Your going to Get the big ban hammer for Twisting the rules ive seen it happen 2nd hand Faggot Just post porn and mabey you will be welcome but then i've posted porn and every one still hates me cuz im a ( Selfish Child Abuser) :1
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Your Mama's So ugly, her mom had to be drunk to breast feed her.
Which brings me to you. Your so ugly, your mother had to tie a steak around your neck to get the dog to play with you. Have a nice day shitface :-* |
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Originally Posted by Soon2BSpoolin
I read the link and that is the most retarded set off rules ever.
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