new to HMT "56k get a snack"
 

Hello all.
just wanted to say hello to everyone.
this is an awesome board, lots of info.

a bit about myself.
my name is chris i am from hamilton ontario, me and my brother jakob are on Red Pepper Racing a lot. we own three 1st gen crxs. we have one that has a carb zc soon to be dual weber carbed.
and our other project. the black si with a 89 dohc zc turbo. we are just peacing the turbo together.
here are some pics. the questions will be after the pics.
i know the ssautochrome will crack, but if it does ill just buy another one, or upgrade. we are bracing the turbo
and are praying it will hold up to the heat..

here are the pics of our home made turbo project.
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle.../aau.sized.jpg
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle.../aaw.sized.jpg
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle.../aax.sized.jpg
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle.../aab.sized.jpg
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle.../aae.sized.jpg
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle.../aag.sized.jpg
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle.../aac.sized.jpg
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle.../aai.sized.jpg

the set up...
t3 turbo
ssshitcrome mani
hks blow off valve
safc old school knob style
msd 6btm
we want to run 5psi. hopefully that's the spring in the wastegate. eeep.

the questions. does anyone here have a side mount intercooler for sale that lives in the GTA?

also does anyone know what car i should look in for the down pipe flange.. i got one off a saab 900 and it doesn't fit properaly, looked like it would, but the wholes for the bolts are a bit further out.


thanks.. coments welcome.

proud to be a part of the Homemadeturbo comunity
chris ;D

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Is that one of those homemade home depot front bumpers that everyone is talking about on H-T ;)

Setup looks pretty decent, Bet she rips good in a 1g rex.

Jeff

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I have a DSM SMIC. Its in very good shape, Ill get pics if you want them. I could do 50 shipped.

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2 months.. that's how long it took me to find that flange. This isn't any casual web surfing either. I'm talking serious searches on every turbo site you can think of. Wanna know where I finally found one? Take a guess.. it's beautiful irony..

HMT.. right under my nose. BMC Racing hooked me up. This one supposedly was used, but he refinished it and other than a couple tiny bits of slag splatter, it's just like new. I paid $14 shipped for this beautiful piece of metal.

http://www.newbieforces.com/files/turbonext2flange.jpg

http://www.newbieforces.com/files/3boltflange.jpg

PS, since you're in Toronto I'm only going to assume you're going to be at the Niagara crx meet right? It's only about an hour or so away. I'm in Buffalo so it's about an hour for me too depending on bridge traffic..

Unfortunately, I don't think I'll have the turbo on by then, but I'll be there just like I have for the last 2 years. I'm uber poor right now since I just bought a 150K house. I'm waiting for the guy across the street to get a welder so I can make my manifold and downpipe still..

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Lookin' good dude.

FMP love :)

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What CC injectors are you using?


I have the same SAFC that you're using, but not sure what CC injectors to use.

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we are using the stock injectors right now. but i think that we will have to upgrade. i think we would have trouble using the 450cc dsm injectors because of the old school safc we have. so 330cc if they exist, will probably be the next upgrade.

the greddy kit uses the stock injectors, for 5 psi, so i think we will be fine for now.

chris

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That flange is on Ebay everyday. I found it by mistake last month. You should have posted that you needed.

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I had a robot program I made auto search ebay every day multiple times for about 2 months using the best set of regex search criteria I could think of and while there were SS 3 bolt flanges for like $30, they didn't match the specs on this one. Nor did any of the others. The bolt holes are 80mm apart and the middle hole is 65mm in diameter. I got my flange a couple weeks ago, so I've since stopped looking on ebay for one.

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If your concerned about the SSautoCrap manifold, you should get with BMC racing. Everyone recommends him for a reason, he's the "flange man". He also makes dirt cheap manifolds.

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welcome to the site. Im from Brampton, ONT, 30 min from ya.

Go to the CRX meet in Niagara. It's like a 20 min drive for you! :)

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i just felt boost today.... damn that thing is fast.

i am running lean though, so i have to get some dsm injectors in the beast.

as for n10 this will be my third year.

still need an intercooler too.. damn

chris

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nice 1gt man, welcome to the board

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Thank god there's another turbo first gen. ;D
I feel so lonely. I think it's only me and B16DESTROYER who have turbo first gens here.

Welcome to the board.

You need a FMIC...this is what it'll look like:
http://www.newbieforces.com/files/FM...htnobumper.jpg
;)

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sure sounds like a plan... lets see the pics, and i live in canada, so the shipping might be pretty expensive.
let me know.

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yeh you really need to get that thing an intercooler ;D

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looking good. i hope the metal around the area where that rubber elbow goes thru on the passenger side doesn't cut some ---- up.

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Welcome to the site. Nice 1st gen!! I'm about 30-45 min away in kitchener. I have a Probe cooler. 30 bucks and it's yours!

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Nice 1st Gen...I used to have one

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no no. i bent the metal back and forsure it's not rubbing anywhere..

jakob and i will get a nice welder eventualy.


and that prob intercooler, i am so down.

chris

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Ya the only problem is I modified it with jb weld, It will hold and not leak but it enters and exits on opposite sides. If you want pics I can send it. Or you can make customer end tanks

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do you have pics?
if so i am still interested.

chris

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that car scares me. :-\

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Ya, I have to take some of it again. I'll get them soon for ya.

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Did someone mention the DESTROYER...lol.

Remember bro, we only need a little over 300hp to run 10's because our cars are soooooooo lite. Gut your ---- out and punk everyone at your nearby street races.

I know traction is a bitch on 1st gens so you will have to get some drag radials. Falken Azeniz don't grip well for
drag racing. They are more of an autocross tire because the Azenis sidewalls are too stiff.

Weight is your enemy. Loose as much weight from the car as possible, get really stiff springs in the rear, and put on the drag radials. That should easily give your car 14's in the 1/4 mile. More boost with traction and better driving and low 14's or high 13's are attainable.

Keep up the good work. Represent the 1G CRX with honor. When its all done, our cars will OWN THE STREETS!!!

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C_Piddy

What's your Apexi SAFC (knob type) setting?
This is just so I have something to begin with o mine...

TIA

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we couldn't get the 330cc injectors in time for our crx meet, so we temperarely put a fmu in it and are keeping the safc all at zero.

soon we will get some bigger injectors off an auto dsm turbo.

chris

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He was there. I ran into him and chatted for a bit. Although there were a hell of a lot of people there. I didn't ever get to meet crx88si, but I'm pretty sure I saw him drive by me at one point. There were only 2 CRX's in that shade of blue.

Aaron, are you still planning on using 1 3/4" mandrels for your manifold? I've got a hookup for mild steel weld Elbows. I can get them for like $2.50 a piece (US) in 1.5 (which is really more like 1 3/4" id. Plumbing pipe is goofy the way the sizes work) Here are a couple of pics for reference.

http://mysite.verizon.net/mattwil/pi...delmeasure.jpg

Here is one of the weld elbows next to a runner on an STD manifold, which has the largest runners of the HF class mani's.

http://mysite.verizon.net/mattwil/pi...stdcompare.jpg

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actually i've priced the exact same elbows except in 304ss. the best i could find was $6 CDN. let me know if you can get them in ss. are they schedule 10? (.109" wall thickness) if you can get them i'd be in crxtasy!

exact specs: 1.5" 304ss, schedule 10, 90 degree elbow butt weld fittings aparently there are 180 degree return fittings, but only in the states. you guys get all the good stuff.

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ya i was there. it was my third year... alot of people were walking by my car, saying oh, just a zc with header and cold air intake.. lol... damn fools... lol. although as soon as i pass them on the highway they turn their heads.. here is a pic..
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle.../aaz.sized.jpg

as for the flange, thanks alot for the help, i don't know anyone who has the ability to cnc or cut steel, we have some friends who are going to weld up the exhaust and chargepiping, but there in brampton.

i realy don't want to take the turbo off, can i just trace out the wholes and bring you a template?

thanks a million man

chris
here's the beast close to completion
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle...ms/n10/aae.jpg

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I'll take my flange to work tomorrow and scan it so it's in an image file. I'll throw it up here and you can grab it, print it and cut it out to see if it fits your housing easily. If so, I'll take exact measurements of my flange so Aaron can dupe it for you.

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Looks good, looking forward to seeing it run ;D

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oh she runs dude... she's fast.. just have to switch the clutch this weekend, cuz it's slipping more then an eskimo.

it runns really rich at idle because of the fmu, but i am looking for some 330 injectors from an auto turbo dsm. those should work with my oldschool safc with knobs.

as for scaning that flange in... you are AWESOME thanks soo much you guys are a huge help.

the car is super fast fun to drive and the blow off valve sounds like a piggon when i don't push it, and a mean whooosh of air when i press it.

only thing is that i am at full boost at 3500 4000 rpm pretty laggy, but that's becuase the t3 is just a bit big, i hope to get it to spool quicker with some two inch charge piping, also getting rid of that 90 degree bend on the down pipe.. the down pipe is sickly looking, and is made with a flex pipe. it only builds pressure under load.

the o2 sensor rubed the fu%k out of the hf rad, and punctured it on the way to the campsite at n10. so i got a delsol rad, for 109 dollars canadain, beet that price you americans... lol it cools really well and the temp stays below half, all the time.

here are some pics... just for fun.
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle.../aam.sized.jpg
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle.../aan.sized.jpg
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle.../aap.sized.jpg
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle...ms/n10/aac.jpg
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle...ms/n10/acc.jpg

chris.

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what years had 330cc injectors? I thought the auto dsm injectors were all 390cc?

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ya i went, but got there late due to traffic on the QEW near Toronto. Then had to leave early.

i was there from like 12:30 to 4:30 ish. My car was Wayyyy at the back cuz i got there so late. Every1 seemed interested in the sub box more then anything.

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Chris-

Here is the flange scan.

This is actual size, so if you print it out, it should be just right. I'd measure it just in case though. it's 85mm from the middle of each bolt hole to the next and the middle hole is 60 mm in diameter.

http://mysite.verizon.net/mattwil/pics/FLANGE.JPG

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ya ya 390cc, your right.

as for the scan of the fange.... thanks alot i will save that puppy right now...

chris