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milkstatus 07-30-2008 12:27 AM

New Boost Goals
 
Hey all , i was planning on running a setup as follows...

stock d16z6
STD manifold
dsm t25 turbo (2g)
dsm 450's
front mount ic
chipped ecu with ectune
walboro 255


i was looking to make something around 250whp with this setup ~12 psi. I fell into some extra cash and want to do a wiesco and egle bottom end. My question mainly is what will need to be upgraded to push the boost further to make somthing around 300 to 350 whp? i know i will need injectors, somthing neer 750 correct? Idk if i will need a larger fuel pump. Will the t25 be able to produce boost levels needed for those horsepower goals? I will be leaving the head stock and know the block can def. take what im trying to throw at it. What do you guys think? any other suggestions on what to get, what ill need , and differences going to this horsepower level? All info is appreciated! THANKS!

txdohczc 07-30-2008 01:13 AM

Re: New Boost Goals
 
no if you want a cheap 300hp z6 you need to go to the local junkyard and find an old jaguar V12 take the pistons out of that (well just 4 of course) they are pleny strong for upto ~500. then you get the rods from a 1922 ford model A. if you search you can find them for like $13/rod. you need to goto autozone and get 17ft of oil line becuase you will need to mount the oiler cooler behind the rear bumper. then you will of course need a fuel pump from a ferrari testorossa from autozone(~$82.34). then put it all together and you will have more torque and horse power than you could handle

milkstatus 07-30-2008 12:00 PM

Re: New Boost Goals
 
Or you could not be a dick and actually try to help someone out. i know where the search button is, i ue it often, but for what im looking for isnt all that easy to do so. maybe your an expert on how much fuel delivery a car needs for a certain amount of power but maybe not everyone is. but back to the point.

mommy and daddy aren't funding my project, and instead of bringing my car to a tuner and having the ---- not make power for what i spoent or blowing itself to ---- because i forgot one minute detail someone probably has run into already , id like to see results. After all, what else are forums for for that matter. Besides assholes flaming people when they have no knowledge themselves.

so if anyone else, with some actual input could chime in, itd be appreciated

JoshMO 07-30-2008 12:24 PM

Re: New Boost Goals
 
txdohczc remind us again exactly what projects you've put together. I see you flaming away in just about every thread. He has asked a valid question. The guy probably did try the SEARCH function but here lately a lot of tech threads are being inundated with BS replies from the sorts of you. So when he does do a search all he can find are page after page of ---- just like this.

idiot-stick 07-30-2008 12:27 PM

Re: New Boost Goals
 

Originally Posted by milkstatus
Will the t25 be able to produce boost levels needed for those horsepower goals

no

milkstatus 07-30-2008 12:30 PM

Re: New Boost Goals
 
exactly. and im really only down to a single question at this point from various research and probably already know the answer. Can a t25 handle the amount of boost i want to run at 300-350 hp? Ill be running 8.5:1 pistons aproxx 16-18 is that sounds correct.

Hitchhikkr 07-30-2008 12:32 PM

Re: New Boost Goals
 

Originally Posted by milkstatus
exactly. and im really only down to a single question at this point from various research and probably already know the answer. Can a t25 handle the amount of boost i want to run at 300-350 hp? Ill be running 8.5:1 pistons aproxx 16-18 is that sounds correct.

You wont see 250hp from a t25 without a decent shot of nitrous. Compressor limited horsepower dude. You can crank the boost to the moon and it wont do 250 on boost alone.

milkstatus 07-30-2008 12:39 PM

Re: New Boost Goals
 
how bout a 14b or small 16g?

evo_lucian 07-30-2008 12:44 PM

Re: New Boost Goals
 
Like said before , the 2g t25 wont make the power you looking for. You gonna need some thing a bit bigger , your fuel pump will be fine. You also look into a better flowing manifold and some slightly bigger injectors ie around 550cc. Look at the members projects thread at the top of the page and you will get an idea as to what parts you gonna need make the power you want

Hitchhikkr 07-30-2008 12:47 PM

Re: New Boost Goals
 

Originally Posted by milkstatus
how bout a 14b or small 16g?

A small 16g will do 300hp on a z6 but thats lots o boost and I wouldnt push it past that.
MHI turbos generally have turbine shafts that are too small diameter for the turbine speeds we'd like to push them to.

What are you tuning with?


milkstatus 07-30-2008 12:52 PM

Re: New Boost Goals
 
ill be having it tuned by xenocron on ectune. so the block can do about 300hp with built internals, or you man itll be pushing the 16g?

Hitchhikkr 07-30-2008 01:07 PM

Re: New Boost Goals
 

Originally Posted by milkstatus
ill be having it tuned by xenocron on ectune. so the block can do about 300hp with built internals, or you man itll be pushing the 16g?

I mean its pushing the compressor to its limits, as well as the physical limitation that the small ass shaft provides.

In not so many words, they arent that great for what you want.
Get a larger Garrett setup and be happy with your cheap, reliable, and easy to rebuild turbo.

milkstatus 07-30-2008 01:15 PM

Re: New Boost Goals
 
makes sense , alright ill look into a t3 or somthing. What can that block hold in terms of horsepower? Meaning built bottom end(pistons, rods, and race bearings) with a stock head and arp studs?

idiot-stick 07-30-2008 01:48 PM

Re: New Boost Goals
 

Originally Posted by milkstatus
makes sense , alright ill look into a t3 or somthing. What can that block hold in terms of horsepower? Meaning built bottom end(pistons, rods, and race bearings) with a stock head and arp studs?

jesus christ dude. Search and find out for yourself. I answered your question about the t25 yet you asked it again anyways. Being spoon fed is bad enough but spitting up on your bib is a new level of lazyness.

milkstatus 07-30-2008 02:01 PM

Re: New Boost Goals
 
you wanna ------- read my post you just quoted, i said nothing again in reciprocation about the turbo. i was asking what the block can handle. i was stating that ill get a larger turbo as was told the t25 wouldnt make those power levels. so learn to read and get the sand out of your vagina.

JoshMO 07-30-2008 02:09 PM

Re: New Boost Goals
 

Originally Posted by milkstatus

Will the t25 be able to produce boost levels needed for those horsepower goals?


Originally Posted by SloS13
no


Originally Posted by milkstatus
Can a t25 handle the amount of boost i want to run at 300-350 hp?

... just pointing out the obvious...



milkstatus 07-30-2008 02:16 PM

Re: New Boost Goals
 
i missed that post, i was basing the decision off later ones. miscalculation. but that still doesnt help me with my last , most pertinent question. so instead of the pissing contest, how bout we get back to why were here. :y thanks

seerex 07-30-2008 02:19 PM

Re: New Boost Goals
 

Originally Posted by milkstatus
Hey all , i was planning on running a setup as follows...

stock d16z6 (300hp not on stock block)
STD manifold (With a ton of porting maybe)
dsm t25 turbo (2g) (300hp will not happend with this)
dsm 450's (will get you to the 300hp mark, but not more)
front mount ic (Ok)
chipped ecu with ectune
walboro 255


I fell into some extra cash and want to do a wiesco and egle bottom end. THANKS!

Just get some vitaras and egles. Cheap and can run a ton of boost on pump gas do to comp. Also try one of these;https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...?topic=95353.0


milkstatus 07-30-2008 02:25 PM

Re: New Boost Goals
 
thanks. ill being going with that then. i was thinking bout getting the piston/ rod combo off xenocrons site. thanks for all the help. sorry for all the bullshit

Hitchhikkr 07-30-2008 02:29 PM

Re: New Boost Goals
 

Originally Posted by milkstatus
makes sense , alright ill look into a t3 or somthing. What can that block hold in terms of horsepower? Meaning built bottom end(pistons, rods, and race bearings) with a stock head and arp studs?

I think but dont quote me, the stock-sleeve record for a D is around 474ish whp granted thats with race gas and folks who have been in it for a hot minute.

Rods/pistons and a good tune you will not be able to find the hp limits at your experience level.

He who does not ask the question does not get it answered. This is HMT deal with the hazing and you will learn what you need.

oczcOK>>>

Netrisk032 07-30-2008 03:48 PM

Re: New Boost Goals
 
your going to need to replace your clutch as well so you dont forget....

milkstatus 07-30-2008 06:15 PM

Re: New Boost Goals
 
yeah I know , thanks


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