"Need information on putting a turbo in my D16 ex please"
11-05-2003, 01:08 PM
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Re:"Need information on putting a turbo in my D16 ex please"
Thanks projekteg for the reply. And as for 99turbosi I already new all of that homeboy, your not telling me anything knew except the word afc which know i know is also fuel management. Like I said b4 I just wanted another opinion from another thread. But I got all I need thanks for the help!
11-05-2003, 05:00 PM
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Re:"Need information on putting a turbo in my D16 ex please"
i think afc stands for air fuel controller
11-06-2003, 07:46 PM
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Re:"Need information on putting a turbo in my D16 ex please"
history of the civic?
11-06-2003, 09:49 PM
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Re:"Need information on putting a turbo in my D16 ex please"
history of the civic?
thats what i was thinking..lol
thats what i was thinking..lol
11-07-2003, 08:40 AM
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Re:"Need information on putting a turbo in my D16 ex please"
ok i dont know what I did wrong now. I ment like information on civics how they are built and ---- like that.Like I said, I didnt know much about cars until recently and i didnt want to do anything stupid without reasearch. And yes there is a website call the history of Honda civics.(http://www.geocities.com/mcnuttracing/history.html) thats one and the second one is (http://www.histomobile.com/histomob/...?chat=44&lan=2) This is my first Honda so I wanted to know about it. Damn I quess I have to watch what I say on this forum. You guys are rough.
11-07-2003, 09:20 AM
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Re:"Need information on putting a turbo in my D16 ex please"
well, honestly, that's just crap, you can't learn anything useful from that ----. o.k., i'm gonna break it down, for any turbo application, you need fuel management, i don't know if you're aware, but all the turbo does is push air into your engine, for more air, you need more fuel. an fmu is a mechanical device that raises fuel pressure with raised psi, this is the cheapest and most unreliable form of management, it will work good for 5-7 psi. then you have the "afc hack" this has to be used in conjunction with bigger injectors, you hook the bigger injectors up, normally that would be too much fuel for your car and would be too rich, but with the afc, you can lean it out and set the needed amount of fuel at each rpm, this is good up to about 12psi, but you will need to retard your timing some. then you have the do it yourself versions of stand alone, ghettodyne, turbo edit, and there are others floating out there i'm sure also, this allows you to reprogram your factory ecu to control your fuel and timing curves, this also has to be used with bigger injectors, and requires the software (free) and to have your ecu socketed, and a chip burner to burn the chips which you will be using, this is the best and cheapest way to tune your vehicle, other than the big name stand alone's like aem, hondata, zdyne, etc. but it requires quite a bit of knowledge on the subject in order to take advantage of the benefits. the basic homemade turbo usually uses the afc hack and the bigger injectors, this is pretty cheap and allows you to get the job done without being an engine management expert. but it really sounds like you don't know what you're talking about (even though you read "the history of the civic"). just start collecting the stuff you need piece by piece, and while you are doing this, be learning and researching the whole time. it just takes some time. 
11-07-2003, 09:49 AM
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Re:"Need information on putting a turbo in my D16 ex please"
no you misunderstood. That website was just on learing about civics alone. It was ment nothing to do with force induction. You misunderstood what i ment. I dont know what I saying wrong or what im not explaining that confused you. I got the car last spring after my accident. I never had a honda before (this is before I wanted to turbo it) so i just look up on it and what its about. Like I said I didnt know much about cars then. I started getting interested and I began to have taste of street racing after going along with my buddies and seeing what they did to modify my car. However a stock civic wasn't enough to go street racing in so i was notify about turbos. I did research on that and I learned about superchargers and turbo chargers. However, like I said There isn't that many civics in ohio that are turbocharged. thats why it was much difficult learing the pros and cons about turboing my car. Most people in ohio are like I have an intake and fart exchaust I can spank your ***. Im not like that becuase you just would look like an idiot talking ---- to mustangs(the dominant street racing cars in my area next to the eclispe) and other faster car. Most of my other freinds have preludes and he told my to look up online to find other peopel who turbo their civics and ask them guestion and also look around shops and ask them. I did as he told becuase he did so much custom work to his prelude besides a turbo charger. Now I looked online did reasearch and found the turbo d16 and post forums at the end of the summer. I had my questions answered and I already knew most of the things you told me and I know how things work and what i need and dont need for certain amount of power I was thining of putting out. Now I was only confused about two things. What is the right way of boosting my car becuase I heard memebers of that forum tell a new member diffrent things than i was told. He directed me to other forums such as yourself. I didnt know what afc was but was told it was a type of fuel management system which I already knew the purpose of that support for. I apologize because I didnt know that term and if there is any other confuse let me know. Im not an idiot guys I was just asking for your interpretation on the matter.
11-07-2003, 10:07 AM
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Re:"Need information on putting a turbo in my D16 ex please"
so then what two things are you confused about? how to turbo your car right? if you put a turbo on, and it runs without smoking, leaking oil, bogging down, or pinging, and it goes faster than it did before, then you "turboe'd it right". just get a turbo, a manifold, intercooler, intercooler piping, oil lines, a bov, and an fmu or afc. now put it all on your car the way you learned while researching, and it is turbo, voala! :P
11-07-2003, 11:26 AM
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Re:"Need information on putting a turbo in my D16 ex please"
dude...I'm also pretty new to the homemade turbo scene. I started doing my reasearch 3-4 months ago and I already know the answers to all your questions. If you TRULY researched this stuff you would know too. 
You need to do what I did and just keep reading...It all seems hard to understand at first but eventually it will stick.
Do you know how a turbocharged car works and how each component acts together to make everything work? If not you should start by learning that. Knowing how an engine functions is also a must if you want to understand tuning. THEN you gotta figure out what your goals are, not just how much psi you wanna boost. Do you want fast quarter mile times or just a daily driver with a little extra punch?
Do your research and don't ---- around. Fuel management is the name of the game here and it all depends on how much money you have. If you have a big budget then get a nice computer like a Zdyne or hondata. I don't think you're ready for that level of tuning and personally neither am I so don't take offense.
I plan to run 8 psi with the DSM 450's and the AFC hack - when I get the hang of that I'll most likely step everything up.
I know that SleeperCivicEX99 guy at turbod16.com. He's a nice guy he just doesn't have much of a tolerance for questions in which the answers can be found in 100 different places in the forums. And he knows his ---- too, so if you get on his good side he can be a very valuable person to ask questions to.
I respect and value both homemadeturbo.com and turbod16.com. I've learned a lot from both places so don't take sides. It's not a war - we are all speed freaks and should be cool with one another.
Back to the AFC hack - it's basically an air/fuel computer (AFC) made by Apex'i. I know you've seen it before..it's the cool looking silver box with the blue LCD display. It allows you to tune air/fuel ratios at different RPM's and throttle settings. There is a really good article at turbod16 in the FAQ's section that explains it very nicely and easy to understand.
That's my two yen. Good look with your project!
You need to do what I did and just keep reading...It all seems hard to understand at first but eventually it will stick. Do you know how a turbocharged car works and how each component acts together to make everything work? If not you should start by learning that. Knowing how an engine functions is also a must if you want to understand tuning. THEN you gotta figure out what your goals are, not just how much psi you wanna boost. Do you want fast quarter mile times or just a daily driver with a little extra punch?
Do your research and don't ---- around. Fuel management is the name of the game here and it all depends on how much money you have. If you have a big budget then get a nice computer like a Zdyne or hondata. I don't think you're ready for that level of tuning and personally neither am I so don't take offense.
I plan to run 8 psi with the DSM 450's and the AFC hack - when I get the hang of that I'll most likely step everything up. I know that SleeperCivicEX99 guy at turbod16.com. He's a nice guy he just doesn't have much of a tolerance for questions in which the answers can be found in 100 different places in the forums. And he knows his ---- too, so if you get on his good side he can be a very valuable person to ask questions to.
I respect and value both homemadeturbo.com and turbod16.com. I've learned a lot from both places so don't take sides. It's not a war - we are all speed freaks and should be cool with one another.
Back to the AFC hack - it's basically an air/fuel computer (AFC) made by Apex'i. I know you've seen it before..it's the cool looking silver box with the blue LCD display. It allows you to tune air/fuel ratios at different RPM's and throttle settings. There is a really good article at turbod16 in the FAQ's section that explains it very nicely and easy to understand.
That's my two yen. Good look with your project!
11-07-2003, 03:45 PM
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Re:"Need information on putting a turbo in my D16 ex please"
once again i never said anything about not knowing what a turbo does and how it works. you assume I didnt and just brought that up. I DINT KNOW WHAT AFC STAND FOR. thats it. What i said before was 10 psi racing around 7-8 psi daily driven already stated that. Whos ------- around? And im getting ready to boost down the line but i wanted to be sure and research first like im doing now. And me and sleepercivic arent in bad terms you assume that as well I never asked him anything he was actually being nice and inform me about other forums. Has nothing to do with taking sides just being in other forum communities and learning more about boosting from other people all around. (that why he inform me of this group) I already know about fuel managment and how it works. Now anything else your going to assume or correct me about?
