My winter upgrades
 

Warning all haters, DSM inside

Just thought I'd show all those interested, and all the haters, what my plans are for my Talon over the winter.


Old setup consisted of a PTE mitsu bolt-on 50 trim with standard supporting mods, running off E85.

New stuff for this winter is as follows:

T3 manifold (Bringing it in Friday to get Jet Coated black)
Borg Warner S362 turbo with .70 T3 turbine housing w/ V-Band out (Bringing it in Friday to get turbine housing Jet Coated black)
New non-sealed beam headlights so I can just change out the damn bulbs and not the whole glass somabitch. (Had to cut off stock harnesses and wire in an H4 harness. So far seems to work just fine after rewire)
Tial 44 Wastegate
-wapping out Forge MBC for new Hallman MBC
New complete SS turbo back utilizing only V-Band's
Fidanza 4.3 clutch
New Dogbox Racing built tranny
Homemade Intake Manifold (raw aluminum is paid for and waiting to be picked up from Discount Steel)
1G N/T Throttle Body
CF Hood to replace my dented up stocker
Still sticking with E85

Couple pics below. All positive and negetive comments welcome :-*

http://www.dsmstyle.com/forums/attac...1198200857.jpg
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http://www.dsmstyle.com/forums/attac...1201056839.jpg
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looks like an egay special turbo.....if it is gl on it not falling apart in 2 miles, though it says borg warner i say otherwise............

what power do you plan to make? i got a buddy who swears up and down that he ran 20 psi on the stock turbo/motor and he would crush any car on the streets lol.

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It is a BW Extended Tip S362 from Bullseye. For the insane amount of money these turbos cost, it better not fall apart in 2 miles. So to answer you, no it is not an ebay special. I did a lot of research before decideding on the one I want, and ordering it from Dave at BEP over the phone.

As for power, well every dyno reads different, and our local Dyno Dynamics tend to read low. I was putting down 366, and I'm now hoping to break into the 500's, and net me my first 10 second pass.

And if you don't know the specifics of these turbos, you could compare it to something like a GT35 as far as flow numbers. But due to it's extended tip design, hopefully she'll flow a little more than a GT35 at higher boost levels.

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sounds good. to bad you dont live close to me, id have you meet him and run him on the street/strip. i doubt he would even be able to pass you..............

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i hate dsms, but i got respect for anything that is fast and well built. I give it a thumbup

2wd or 4wd?

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Sorry, I guess I didn't really give a backround on the car besides what I'm chaning. It's a 91 AWD. Has a Mahle/Eagle built 2.0, along with just your typical supporting mods for what I'm doing.

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Damn car looks good, what are you using for mangment?

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headlights are SIcK rest is gay :P

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What are you running for engine management?

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I use DSMLink for engine management. I love it!

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i think you have it backwards. I don't like the headlights, but everything else looks good. I would drop my eg in a heartbeat if i could fine an unmolested tsi for cheap. Its just too easy to make them fun. And if your gentle enough, you wont have tranny issues. Looks good though, love the manifold.

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Some more update pics. The turbo/mani/wastegate is starting to go in. Slowly but surely she'll get together.

http://www.dsmstyle.com/forums/attac...5&d=1202784846
http://www.dsmstyle.com/forums/attac...2&d=1202784830
http://www.dsmstyle.com/forums/attac...3&d=1202784830


Also picked up a new hood to replace the old dented one.
http://dsmstyle.com/forums/attachmen...6&d=1202787863

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Wow! Nice baby! I always wanted a talon, but 95-96. They are hot! Dunno about the engine :-\

Re: My winter upgrades
 

where you from man!? i have some friends with dsms they take care of them and have their problems just as anyone else does that modifies their car, i hope to do a turbo setup on my N/A galant awd gsx 1990 :) 4g63

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Check my sig. I live in Minnesota (Twin Cities). Thanks for the comments thus far! Also just picked up a new Daily Driver today as well that I'm pretty pumped about. 2006 Saab 9-3

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Sell me your old PTE 50 trim! I been looking for a good used one for a long time. PM me if you still have it. Gratsi

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sweet ---- homes how much was that BW ? im lookin for somthin similar to a gt35r but cheaper

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I got a hell of a deal on it, but typically the one I got is a bit spendy, around $1400. They aren't cheap turbos that's for sure. Also for the most part, BW turbos are oil cooled, non-ball bearing center cartridges. That's something that I liked, because I did not want to run coolant lines.

If you're looking for a cheap alternative to a GT35R, what about picking up a non ball bearing PTE SC61? Those can be had for what, like $800 brand new or so?

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i think we need a midwest hmt meet!

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You mean like BBQ's at Stevemode's?

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thatd be sick! i need my car done its goin to start getting nice in a few months

Re: My winter upgrades
 

Quick update of where it sits as of today. I leave for Spain today for a month, so while I'm at Spain my buddy will be building the new exhaust for it. Then when I get home, just triple check everything and hope she starts.

http://dsmstyle.com/forums/attachmen...1&d=1207586937
http://dsmstyle.com/forums/attachmen...4&d=1207586983

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Not bad, car is looking good. While in Spain you should meet up with Walter :6.

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Well I got home from Spain on Sunday. Took the whole week off work to get some stuff done. Got lots done on the car. Was able to start it up for the first time just to make sure it would start. Exhaust will be built sometime this week hopefully, dropping it off at the shop who will be building it tomorrow evening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiHGZpxcwoc

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Got some other misc stuff done. Had to slot some holes to lower the hood latch a bit to get it to fit better. Also put the hood pins on which helped as well. Hood fitment is much better now then it was originally. Also got the vent attached to the new hood. Put in the new front speakers (thanks mr. hill). Got the interior back together for the most part.

Rinsed off a lot of the dust. It's still dirty but looks a lot better. Cousin should be here shortly to tow her away to get some exhaust built for it. Then it's just triple check everything, work out any bugs, and have at it!

http://dsmstyle.com/forums/attachmen...1210806267.jpg

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She's alive, and idling like a champ. Did a couple quick pulls. I'm seeing about 46lb/min flow at 20psi, but I'm way down on power for some reason. But nice to have her out and about and running well for the most part.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FoNOh750GHU

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Looks good Brandon! That BOV is going to work as we speak :P

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That's some high quality ---- right there! Long live the 4g63, those motors are awesome at taking a beating. Good luck to ya, and how do you like that Mishimoto rad? I've been thinking of picking one up for my Evo8.

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You'll have to show me what exactly that BOV is going into sometime!

As for the radiator, it works and was real cheap. The only thing I don't like is the tabs they place on the top of the radiator for the stock mounting brackets, well they didn't line up with the stock mounting brackets what so ever. So I'll have to make some custome ones. Other then that, couldn't beat it for the price!

I've gotten some pointers online about my low power issue. I'm going to be trying a few things today and seeing how it works.

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Well got to play with her a lot more and even got to take Austin for a quick spin. She is really moving at 30psi, makes me :D Found a few boost leaks though so the car is back down until I can fix them. I'm thinking that this thing shouldn't have any issues running 10's on this setup!

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whats ment by the low power issues?

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Ripper vids!!!!

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The car just felt real weak. It felt slower then it was with the old setup, just down on power. I got a lot of advice from some of the better tuners, and mainly just changed the timing a bit, then cranked up the boost. Now she rips! I'll get some videos up next week when the car is back up and running, hopefully without the boost leaks.

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why does it say hyundai on the valve cover

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LOL...I just noticed that...Hyundai used the 4g63 in a few of their cars back in the 90's as well...

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Congrats on having 3 boost leaks, your car is true to its roots. :P

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hyundai's valve covers are stronger they have more webbing and are less prone too cracking. mitsu valve cover crack when you tighten them down.

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4 if you include the one in the A-Pillar now that you ran off with my boost gauge.

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usually those cars are ugly as ---- but yours looks pretty good.

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where did you get your car tuned at?