My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned!
 

Who hasn't heard someone say Don't buy Chinese turbos? Well i didn't believe them... take a look

This is my first car. I started building it when i was 17, I'm 18 now.

I finally got this car to be almost finished, still need some little things here and there.

As you can see from the pictures 2 of the fins on the compressor wheel are broken.

What happened is the nut holding the wheel on came off, i noticed the car wasn't making any boost and i couldn't hear the turbo spool anymore, so i took of the air filter and found the nut loose inside of it!

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Tuning laptop/willem burner (its a ps9 ecu if anyone was wondering)
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https://i462.photobucket.com/albums/...4/IMG_0057.jpg
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I think i spent about $2800-3200 Canadian, including the engine.

Setup;
Stock GSR head
Stock b18a block
dsm 450's
walbro 255
Turboedit, 1 wire vtec
it goes on, but thats the basics


Update* My new turbo came today!

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Just to compare old vs. new. China vs Garrett

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Old wheel


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This is the inside of the old compressor housing close up.
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I ordered precision 780cc/min injectors today, so now I don't have to worry about maxing the 450's out.


Progress is slow, there has been a high of -26 for like the last 2 weeks...

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned! (Lots of Pictures)
 

that sucks i think i have that same turbo on my b20 vtec setup. because mine has the m12 stamp on it also and when i bought it they gave me the whole it has garret internals and is a good turbo -runaround-. but anyways i havent had any problems so far. i had this turbo for a little over 4 years now pushin 9psi and making 342hp on my stock b20 bottom. but sorry to hear that :3 i guess i just got one of those lucky 1 in 1million turbos made from the china man

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned! (Lots of Pictures)
 

i bet your intake temps love that open down pipe

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned! (Lots of Pictures)
 

i always retighten your ching chiong products :o Sorry bout the carnage. i bet that oil line loves that wastegate.

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned! (Lots of Pictures)
 

Thats pretty impressive.

I do have an elbow for it... its just not on yet. but now that i have some down time i'll get on it, same with the exhaust...


I just pulled the turbo off, the inside of the compressor housing is pretty messed up, wheel is garbage obviously, and there is definitely shaft play now lol.

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned! (Lots of Pictures)
 

Update** Ordered a new turbo, a Garrett T3 60-1. .63 a/r exhaust housing. S compressor cover.

Should be here in a couple weeks.

I'll keep it posted

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned! (Lots of Pictures)
 

Hell yeah fun turbo. Good decision to go with the TO4S comp housing too. I can't believe Chinese turbos don't even have Loc-tite on the compressor nut.

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned! (Lots of Pictures)
 

It could have been worse, you didn't suffer any engine damage so count your blessings and chalk it up as a lesson learned.

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned! (Lots of Pictures)
 

ching chong FTW!! still rocking it now on 2nd motor so far

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned! (Lots of Pictures)
 

nice

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned! (Lots of Pictures)
 

you got raped on all accounts, financially, product wise and engine wise

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned! (Lots of Pictures)
 

financially, yeah. I'll blame it on the learning curve, i would def do somethings differently now.

Whats wrong with the engine? I know you guys are all about the d's. but still it was $600!

The original b18a got hungry and ate a bearing. So that was no good.

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned! (Lots of Pictures)
 

This project have potential. Throw a better turbo and everything will be fine.

Integra for the win!

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned! (Lots of Pictures)
 

that's not too bad, considering where that nut could have gone...

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned! (Lots of Pictures)
 

I was tempted to use one of those ching chongs a year or two ago untill i saw all the horror stories..cheaper to get a holset in the first place.

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned! (Lots of Pictures)
 

i <3 my cdm never had problems w/ em

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned! (Lots of Pictures)
 

I think it would have just got stuck in the intercooler, but still it could have been worse.

It seems really hit or miss. If you are going to go cdm retorque everything.

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned! (Lots of Pictures)
 

Sucks about the turbo!

Your vac line on the BOV looks kinked.

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned! (Lots of Pictures)
 

i personally prefer JY turbos...especially from wrecked cars :)

i put a JY Volvo TD04HL-15G on my buddies tercel & it works great...he just can't keep transmissions in it now

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Yeah speaking of which, i'm trying to find a fitting for a boost line to the bottom of the BOV, but everywhere i go they all say its too small.

Any ideas?

It would be the lower nipple in this picture, i'm not sure what size the treads are.
http://www.stealth316.com/images/greddysclosedsm.jpg

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned!
 

that's a nice wii nunchuk shawn. where'd you get it? :P

looks good man. hopefully after this turbo in, everything will run nice and smooth! ;D

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned!
 

Walmart obviously! i almost had to fight a grandma for the last wii, then they realized they had more in the back...

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned!
 

some updates.

I put my injectors in.
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Literally wired the second stage of the gsr manifold open.
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I did get an air filter and the silicone coupler i was needing, they are both on now but not in this picture
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I'm thinking i'm going to try to bend this, not sure if it'll work. But it obviously doesn't right now either
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Big thanks to the super old kerosene heater.

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I will be pretty busy in the next couple weeks but i'm going to start tuning soon.
Hopefully it won't be too hard to get it to idle.

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned!
 

Setup looks solid, but you really should do the obd0-1 conv

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love that heater... reminds me of home :6

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You miss it now that you are homeless.

Setup looks great, but you should have taken the dual core radiator instead of the single core.

Keep update!

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1 thing: If this was my build, i'd do something with that oil line. It's rediculous close to the mani and wg elbow.

Other than that, nice.

Sucks about your turbo and motor getting teh suck but i love DA tegs. Post moar!

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if your gonna use that to hold open the IAB (secondaries) in ur intake manifold, just run a vac hose from a nipple from the manifold to that vac nipple that controls the secondaries. My h22 isn't boosted yet, but at idle and hi vacuum my IAB's are closed, and when theres low vacuum (i.e.- WOT) the IABS open and its 8 runners. You can see them move when u rev it from under the hood.
On a stock ECU/setup, the ECU controls a vacuum box and tells the IABS to open at a certain RPM at a certain load on the engine...well with it rigged str8 form the manifold to the actuator, it'll open up under certain load, which is loss of vacuum, which means it'll be open for boost too, not just all the time.

I like ur enginuity tho....

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From that angle it does look alot closer than it really is. Its kind of close, but it will definitely never touch. There's probably about a 2-3" gap

If i just ran a vac line from the IM to the nipple, it would open under vacuum then close under boost. Unless i had a line that only saw vacuum.

I know how it works, the ecu grounds a solenoid at a certain rpm, which supplies vacuum to that nipple, opening the IABs.

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned!
 

looks sweet

Re: My setup. Turbo lasted 70kms. Lesson learned!
 

well then the wire tie should work ;D

The time the turbo lasted, did it pull nice?

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i barely got to drive it. the clutch is still brand new and being broken in.

I don't think i went past 5000 rpm. I was still trying to get the partial throttle tune good. didn't go into vtec

but that turbo did build boost pretty early, it felt good.

Should pull harder now.

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that kerosene burner is fucken poisonous

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From CO?

2 people in edmonton were recently sent to hospital from Carbon monoxide poisoning, they were trying to heat their garage with a propane bbq or burner or something.


It hasn't killed me over the last year, i just try to avoid standing over it and taking deep breaths.

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You can tell from this picture how far the oil line is from the manifold.


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For when i run out of Kerosene. i also have the electric.

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But i need some help.

I'm having a hard time getting this car to idle. It keeps flooding, take a look at my fuel/ ignition maps. Keep in mind precision 780cc/min

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Overall,
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Any suggestions?

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What AFRs?

Idle is also controlled by the TB's throttle stop, the air bleed screw, and the IACV. If it's trying to idle at super low rpms my suggestion would be to reset the air bleed screw (turn it all the way in, then back it out a half turn. this is how they are supposed to be from the factory) and set the idle with the throttle stop (something like 2mm allen key and a 7mm wrench to manipulate the locknut).

If the injectors are a bit wierd (primarily from you not being able to tweak battery compensation tables with TE) then just idle the car at 900-1000 and don't worry about targeting a stock idle like 750-800 rpms.

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well i just raised the idle, its just over 1000rpm. I'll probably lower it later on.

I also changed the sparkplugs from ngk br7es i think, to some old stock ones from my b18a.

Watch this video, I didn't touch the gas pedal for the entire video. I don't think you can see it, but that vac/boost gauge doesn't work properly. Its at about 21-24 inHG.

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This is the map that it was on at the time of the video. I would think it would be super rich, especially at idle.
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and this is the way i'm burning the at29c256

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