kain

here is an idea. rig up a peltier system. http://www.melcor.com/teccover.htm sells them.

basically one side gets extreemly cold, and one gets extreemly hot. so the cold side could just basically cool the water/ charged air for you.

also, i had an idea to rig up a peltier box. basically, its a charge pipe, that has be made into a box with smoothed and tapered, rounded ends. all 4 sides that are flat, i will stick peltiers on the outside. and the inside i will stick heat sinks on the inside. obviously, the peltiers cool the air soo fast, that the air, and any serface that touches it , gets frosted almost instantly.( i had my pc compleetly prosted in about 5 secconds).

also, the frost sublimes rather quick, and that sublimed condensated water has a really good cooling effect. ( basically ( when ice sits in your freezer, it still evaporates, this is called sublimination. but the evaporated water is really cold)).

so yeah. i hope i wasnt too vague. o yeah, the hot side of the peltier just gets only 250+ degrees celcius. if the hot side gets that hot, just immagine how cold the cold side gets lol


just a thaught. ofcourse, you need power supplies, and a shitload of other junk.

d16tuner

hmmm. That would eliminate the need for an intercooler, and it sounds like it would work as well or better. Interesting idea. I never put one of those in my PC but it always intrigued me.

b16_destroyer

Dude I say go for it. Sounds like a great idea and should work better than an air/water intercooler.

Question, would you have a toggle switch for it or would you keep it on at all times?

BlinD

Hrm that would work. Just as long as theyre reliable. Those things get pretty damn cold too.

kain

well, i know how to rig up a voltage regulator based on heat. so i could rig it up to something so that it would cool better under hotter situations and cool less in colder situations. also, it could be used as an oil or tranny cooler. just use a copper block, with a nice path for it to travle, and solder/scre another plate ontop of it. put two peltiers on it, and you have the best freaking oil cooler around.

also, i think they are pretty reliable, since the technology is soo minimal. its just two metals touching, and thats it basically. send a charge through them , and blamo. also, i remember reading an articcle about compresed air being used in some type of gun where it creats a vortecs, and the air actually freezes cus of this vortex, and the other end lets out hot *** air. hm... this sounds interesting.

d16tuner

The only problem I see right away is that when it sits after running and defrosts, all of the moisture it has pulled from the air is going to turn into water, right? and water is not something you want in your intake.

Jared

Actually water in small quantities is ok. Ever hear of water injection?

kain

heh. exactly. since it wouldnt be a flood. just a couple of droplets.

kain

man i need to watch my spelling. lol. i hope yall are able to understand what i am talking about.

d16tuner

So you are going to run current thru it all the time? Won't this kill your battery?

I've heard of water injection, but I don't really know anything about it. I know a small amound of water won't hurt, but a large amound will lock up the engine. I have no idea what the threshold is, or how much a peltier system would produce. I don't think that a 400cc space with a 9.2:1 or so c/r would be happy with much of anything in there...