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digital sol 02-20-2004 07:04 PM

My Current Set-up Capable of 300whp?
 
im going in for tuning next week and im also going to be going with a complete e-manage system and sell all my current fms stuff. What whp does the 15g turbo max at? I want to run 200-210 daily and i was hoping for at least 250-275whp on high boost setting, probably 15-16 psi. Heres a copy of my set-up below

1993 Captiva Blue Del Sol Si

D16z6
Sport sleeves
JE 9.1 Pistons
Eagel Rods
Comp turbo cam shaft
Crower Valves
Springs
Retainers
ARP headstuds
Ported & Polished
3 Angle valve Job
MSD BTM
MSD BLASTER COIL
JG CAM GEAR
Pullys
Focuz intake manifold
Alum flywheel
ACT clutch
Underdrive pulley

255 fuel pump- BBK
Vafc
AVC-R Boost Controller
Aem FPR
Vortech Fmu
Greddy Fuel Box

Greddy 15G turbo kit
Greddy FMIC
Greddy blow off
2.5" downpipe
Greddy Turbo Timer
Greddy oil catch can
Greddy a/f Guage
Greddy Boost Guage
Greddy catback exhaust
high flow cat
Mandercoil plug wires
Greddy spark plugs
Optima red top battery (located in back)

im going to have the following by next friday installed and waiting to be tuned..

e-mange system w/all the extras
profec e-01
remote switching system for high and low boost and ill also be using 450cc injectors.


tranceminister 02-20-2004 07:10 PM

Re:My Current Set-up Capable of 300whp?
 
You'll be using 450's and an FMU, VAFC, and Greddy fuel box??? How much boost are you planing on? That might be a bitch to try and tune because of all the fuel systems. Why not just Sell all that fuel management and buy a Hondata or do some of your own ecu tuning? I mean with all the $$$ you probably spent building that engine, why skimp on the fuel management? Go all the way! ;)
But anyway, I'd say that setup would be capable of close to 275 Maybe a bit more with dyno tuning.

digital sol 02-20-2004 07:14 PM

Re:My Current Set-up Capable of 300whp?
 

Originally Posted by tranceminister
You'll be using 450's and an FMU, VAFC, and Greddy fuel box??? How much boost are you planing on? That might be a bitch to try and tune because of all the fuel systems. Why not just Sell all that fuel management and buy a Hondata or do some of your own ecu tuning? I mean with all the $$$ you probably spent building that engine, why skimp on the fuel management? Go all the way! ;)
But anyway, I'd say that setup would be capable of close to 275 Maybe a bit more with dyno tuning.

you mis-read, thats the current fuel mangement, all that fuel mangement crap is being removed this saterday and the shops ordering my e-manage full system with the profec e-01 and remote switching system, ill also have my 450cc's installed with the new fuel mangement and it will be on the dyno for a while...

the car can easily handle 300++ whp but i wasnt sure what the turbo can push without damage. I just wanna run 200-225whp daily but id like to have at least 250whp high boost setting with my remote switching system ;D

tranceminister 02-20-2004 07:17 PM

Re:My Current Set-up Capable of 300whp?
 
Aaaah, sorry for busting you then ;) I'm honestly not too sure about where the 15g will max out at. Thats a rather small turbo isn't it?

LSD Motorsports 02-20-2004 11:34 PM

Re:My Current Set-up Capable of 300whp?
 
yes its a "rather small" turbo but you will be capable of making 250whp... not much more... It also depends on your compression which you did not list
Youll definitely hit your daily #'s of 225

digital sol 02-21-2004 11:25 AM

Re:My Current Set-up Capable of 300whp?
 

Originally Posted by 88 Turbo Crx
yes its a "rather small" turbo but you will be capable of making 250whp... not much more... It also depends on your compression which you did not list
Youll definitely hit your daily #'s of 225

compression was lowered to 9:1 with the je pistons and its actually lower then that sense we took some compression out of the head etc. At one point after adding the 4mm greddy headgasket the compression was too low for the car to run so we threw the stock headgasket back in. I think eventually im gonna go with a cosmetics compression and add a lil more compression to the head to make it the way it is now but with the newer headgasket. Its somewhere below 9:1....compression on each individual cylinder is 135

Dr.Boost 02-21-2004 11:29 AM

Re:My Current Set-up Capable of 300whp?
 

Originally Posted by digital sol

its actually lower then that sense we took some compression out of the head etc.

How the hell did you take compression out of the head? ???
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digital sol 02-21-2004 11:36 AM

Re:My Current Set-up Capable of 300whp?
 

Originally Posted by Dr.Boost

Originally Posted by digital sol

its actually lower then that sense we took some compression out of the head etc.

How the hell did you take compression out of the head? ???

according to the machine shop after all of the extensive head work was done the compression was a bit lower then 9:1. And with the thicker headgasket it dropped the compression even lower and i couldnt wait 3 weeks to get the headgasket i wanted to i just threw the stock gasket back on.

shortyz 02-21-2004 12:55 PM

Re:My Current Set-up Capable of 300whp?
 
i am slighty confused here..

how would u lower compression on a head, unless the valves were like way ground into the head.. ???


did mexicans run this machine shop?

also what are you paying for a profec? i bet for the same price u can pickup a hondata s200, which imo is a hell of a lot better.. or uberdata turboedit.. all cheap like 15$

digital sol 02-21-2004 01:05 PM

Re:My Current Set-up Capable of 300whp?
 

Originally Posted by shortyz
i am slighty confused here..

how would u lower compression on a head, unless the valves were like way ground into the head.. ???


did mexicans run this machine shop?

also what are you paying for a profec? i bet for the same price u can pickup a hondata s200, which imo is a hell of a lot better.. or uberdata turboedit.. all cheap like 15$

e-mange with everything including the remote switching system= 500 and the profec is 500, yes hondata would be an option but then id have to pay a ---- load to have a shop install it and tune it where if i go with e-mange there installing it for free and tuning for 50 on the dyno for 1-2 hours.

i never really looked into uberdata or tubroedit. I liked the idea the profec e-01 can tune and is a boost controller, e-mange programmer and 3 bar map sensor and boost guage in 1.

Dr.Boost 02-21-2004 02:27 PM

Re:My Current Set-up Capable of 300whp?
 

Originally Posted by digital sol

Originally Posted by Dr.Boost

Originally Posted by digital sol

its actually lower then that sense we took some compression out of the head etc.

How the hell did you take compression out of the head? ???

according to the machine shop after all of the extensive head work was done the compression was a bit lower then 9:1. And with the thicker headgasket it dropped the compression even lower and i couldnt wait 3 weeks to get the headgasket i wanted to i just threw the stock gasket back on.

<<<<<still confused. I can't se how you can lower the compression by doing head work. You can raise the compression, but lower it??????? I dunno man, who is this machine shop?
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nigel 02-21-2004 05:44 PM

Re:My Current Set-up Capable of 300whp?
 
dude you wasted soooo much ------ money on all that ----!!!

you shouldhave done mre research man. I feel bad for you. you need to scrap all that greddy ---- and go buy all custom parts, because you are robbing yourself of power. I dont know if I read correctly but your motor is fully built correct? which means you are capable of 400+whp with a good fuel system and a big ass turbo and a good intercooler. its time for you to go slang some ---- on ebay so you can make some power. you could run easy 11s on that block that you have if you just got a better turbo and a better fuel manegement system

turboboy 02-21-2004 06:56 PM

Re:My Current Set-up Capable of 300whp?
 

Originally Posted by Dr.Boost

Originally Posted by digital sol

Originally Posted by Dr.Boost

Originally Posted by digital sol

its actually lower then that sense we took some compression out of the head etc.

How the hell did you take compression out of the head? ???

according to the machine shop after all of the extensive head work was done the compression was a bit lower then 9:1. And with the thicker headgasket it dropped the compression even lower and i couldnt wait 3 weeks to get the headgasket i wanted to i just threw the stock gasket back on.

<<<<<still confused. I can't se how you can lower the compression by doing head work. You can raise the compression, but lower it??????? I dunno man, who is this machine shop?

porting the combustion chamber=less material=lower compression

Dr.Boost 02-21-2004 07:27 PM

Re:My Current Set-up Capable of 300whp?
 
I have never heard of that. Why would you want to go that route? That would be my last option to lower the compression. :-\
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turboboy 02-21-2004 07:30 PM

Re:My Current Set-up Capable of 300whp?
 

Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
I have never heard of that. Why would you want to go that route? That would be my last option to lower the compression. :-\

i dont think the goal was to lower it, i would think the goal was a better shaped combustion chamber

Dr.Boost 02-21-2004 07:34 PM

Re:My Current Set-up Capable of 300whp?
 
Hmmmm...hopefully it was done by a knowledgable machine shop. I would imagine it would be very difficult to Joe Schmoe a new design in the combustion chamber to create more power? :-\
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digital sol 02-22-2004 10:33 AM

Re:My Current Set-up Capable of 300whp?
 

Originally Posted by nigel
dude you wasted soooo much ------ money on all that ----!!!

you shouldhave done mre research man. I feel bad for you. you need to scrap all that greddy ---- and go buy all custom parts, because you are robbing yourself of power. I dont know if I read correctly but your motor is fully built correct? which means you are capable of 400+whp with a good fuel system and a big ass turbo and a good intercooler. its time for you to go slang some ---- on ebay so you can make some power. you could run easy 11s on that block that you have if you just got a better turbo and a better fuel manegement system

do not post ---- you dont know about. The only reason why the greddy kit remains on the car is because the car had the greddy kit when i bought it. All the motor work was done afterwards and seeing as how i cant ---- cash i dont have the money to upgrade to a custom 3" downpipe, SST lovfab manifold, and gt28rs and complete e-mange or hondata. But those are the next plans for the car~~

but for now im stuck, i dont have any money to spend on fuel mangement and im striving for ideas. I may have to use the vafc hack for a month or two on like 10pounds until i can afford the complete e-manage system. Then ill be upgrading everything else. And the intercooler is being upgraded next week. Im ordering a 36*6 from johnnyracecar and selling the tiny greddy fmic.

And the motor was built at the best place in my state. They know what they are doing and the motor runs and idles flawless. The motor wasnt cheap and is built to run some really high ------- whp numbers, however with my limited cash for the time being im forced to run the tiny 15g kit and a shitty fuel mangement....and the car is a daily driver and neeeds to get me to work so i cant just leave it at a shop until i get the money to afford the new parts.

ZexRex 02-22-2004 01:42 PM

Re:My Current Set-up Capable of 300whp?
 
dude nigel stfu he has a very very nice setup that will hold together for a long time.

the emanage is a very solid system my friend is running something like that on his 400hp rx7. i think it even has data logging on it if i rember correctly. free install and cheap tuning is a damn good deal because good fuel management is nothing if you have a ---- fuel/spark maps.

if I were you I would run what you have now save for that emanage and install. then when thats installed and tuned max that turbo out at 15-16 psi. you have a pretty small engine, my d16a6 has a t3/t04e and its too big for most ppl's daily driving taste and more for racing. (exactly what I want)

Then when you get some funds later look for a good deal on someone selling a 16g or 20g/super20g, they should bolt right up to your exsisting manifold/downpipe. or go all out like you said with the sst/3" dp/gt28rs.

ZexRex 02-22-2004 01:47 PM

Re:My Current Set-up Capable of 300whp?
 
all in all in my opinion if you get the big fmic/emanage(dyno tuned)/20g or super20g you car will ------- rip.

my friends awd 2.0l eclipse with a super 20g @20-26psi is very fast, last time i rode with him we kept up with $100,000 porsch in a 130+ freeway pull.

CRXfan999 02-23-2004 07:35 AM

Re:My Current Set-up Capable of 300whp?
 

Originally Posted by nigel
dude you wasted soooo much ------ money on all that ----!!!

you shouldhave done mre research man. I feel bad for you. you need to scrap all that greddy ---- and go buy all custom parts, because you are robbing yourself of power. I dont know if I read correctly but your motor is fully built correct? which means you are capable of 400+whp with a good fuel system and a big ass turbo and a good intercooler. its time for you to go slang some ---- on ebay so you can make some power. you could run easy 11s on that block that you have if you just got a better turbo and a better fuel manegement system

Since the kit was on the car then its all good..but otherwise I would agree with nigel, buy your own parts, do it yourself, the homemade way.

accordepicenter 02-23-2004 10:14 AM

Re:My Current Set-up Capable of 300whp?
 

Quote from: nigel on February 21, 2004, 03:44:47 pm
dude you wasted soooo much ------ money on all that ----!!!

you shouldhave done mre research man. I feel bad for you. you need to scrap all that greddy ---- and go buy all custom parts, because you are robbing yourself of power. I dont know if I read correctly but your motor is fully built correct? which means you are capable of 400+whp with a good fuel system and a big ass turbo and a good intercooler. its time for you to go slang some ---- on ebay so you can make some power. you could run easy 11s on that block that you have if you just got a better turbo and a better fuel manegement system



Since the kit was on the car then its all good..but otherwise I would agree with nigel, buy your own parts, do it yourself, the homemade way
Reliability and engine longevity under boost is well worth the money he paid... You can always upgrade turbos and ---- but engine internals are PITA to replace...


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