Massive Dyno Dissapointment. Help me figure out the problem.
01-22-2008, 05:25 PM
#21
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Re: Massive Dyno Dissapointment. Help me figure out the problem.
how much boost are you actually seeing at the intake manifold? that sounds like you have a boost leak. if your a/f's are even close to safe it should make alot more power than that.
01-22-2008, 05:29 PM
#22
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Re: Massive Dyno Dissapointment. Help me figure out the problem.
That tuner sounds like a moron. Your turbo is plenty big and everybody and their mom knows TypeR cams are the only way to go with boosted B-series cars (gsr cams work well also). He obviously doesn't know much about hondas. Your power should also be going up after 6k, not down. I retract my previous statement and blame it on the tuner.
01-22-2008, 05:30 PM
#23
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Re: Massive Dyno Dissapointment. Help me figure out the problem.
sounds like u just used a emissins dyno whitch has a max power reading of about 250hp
If it cant print out I realy dont think it was a good dyno.
where are u in canada I might be ale to recamend a dyno
If it cant print out I realy dont think it was a good dyno.
where are u in canada I might be ale to recamend a dyno
01-22-2008, 05:41 PM
#27
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Re: Massive Dyno Dissapointment. Help me figure out the problem.
Originally Posted by Tyte
Hey guys,
Thanks for all your responses. I appreciate it.
To answer some questions:
The final result was 240whp at 13lbs of boost. He was saying that as he was increasing boost, the car wouldn't make more power. I think the horsepower figure was increasing a bit but torque was dropping steadily. I do believe after 6000rpm the whole power curve would taper off as well.
He never gave us a dyno sheet because he was using a different style dyno. Not sure what it was called, but it would not plot a graph, everything was numerical. According to him its better then the ones that plot the graph, which might just be bullshit on his part, I dont know. But it was a 4wd dyno as well which he uses to tune rally cars.
He was also saying that the camshaft is not optimal, and he doesn't like to tune with it, which sounds shady. I have seen plenty folks retain their OEM camshafts. I understand the Type R is fairly agressive but once again, not a 160whp hinderance.
As for losing boost, I dont think we are. If I had a boost leak would I not see a difference between what the boost has been set at via the boost controller, and the actual reading on the boost gauge?
I am pretty dissapointed because I am a knowledgable guy when it comes to turbo, and I double and triple checked the components of this setup to ensure I reach my goal. I went to the tuner whom I thought was best, and he starts giving me bullshit on how my turbo might be too small (wtf, its a 550hp turbo!), etc. And then when we end up with virtually half the expected power after 6 hours of tuning. Either I am going insane and I can no longer read a basic compressor map, or he is not as great as everyone in Canada says he is.
Thanks for all your help guys!
HMT for life
Thanks for all your responses. I appreciate it.
To answer some questions:
The final result was 240whp at 13lbs of boost. He was saying that as he was increasing boost, the car wouldn't make more power. I think the horsepower figure was increasing a bit but torque was dropping steadily. I do believe after 6000rpm the whole power curve would taper off as well.
He never gave us a dyno sheet because he was using a different style dyno. Not sure what it was called, but it would not plot a graph, everything was numerical. According to him its better then the ones that plot the graph, which might just be bullshit on his part, I dont know. But it was a 4wd dyno as well which he uses to tune rally cars.
He was also saying that the camshaft is not optimal, and he doesn't like to tune with it, which sounds shady. I have seen plenty folks retain their OEM camshafts. I understand the Type R is fairly agressive but once again, not a 160whp hinderance.
As for losing boost, I dont think we are. If I had a boost leak would I not see a difference between what the boost has been set at via the boost controller, and the actual reading on the boost gauge?
I am pretty dissapointed because I am a knowledgable guy when it comes to turbo, and I double and triple checked the components of this setup to ensure I reach my goal. I went to the tuner whom I thought was best, and he starts giving me bullshit on how my turbo might be too small (wtf, its a 550hp turbo!), etc. And then when we end up with virtually half the expected power after 6 hours of tuning. Either I am going insane and I can no longer read a basic compressor map, or he is not as great as everyone in Canada says he is.
Thanks for all your help guys!
HMT for life
01-22-2008, 07:12 PM
#29
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Join Date: Mar 2003
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Re: Massive Dyno Dissapointment. Help me figure out the problem.
Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
rally dyno was set up to show lower #'s so they don't get disqualified, thats how their 700hp cars get away with '350hp' advertised.
does it feel liek more then 240hp?
