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sixsick6 07-13-2005 09:16 PM

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Exactly. An expensive waste of money. As said, the temperature drop is more than negligable and does little if no good at all.

chinoy 07-14-2005 03:37 PM

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I would agree. Measuring the outside temp dosent prove anything.
On a dyno it wouldnt work again. Cause the car wasnt moving.

We hooked up a bead Thermocouple and got a defnite drop in intake charge temp.
THe bead was placed just after the IC. 10-15 Deg C. So basiclly your improving your intercooler effiency. This should give you an aditional 3-5 BHP easy.

If you have a top mount IC like we do in this pic.
You could pack it with dry ice just before you did your run.
ALso since its top mount no chance of watter hiting the mani.

I wont mind two if you can spare em. Will pay for shiping.

forget everything. On a hot day. Hit the sprayer. You will just feel it on your butt dyno. The gains are pretty obvious. At least in our climate.

linkmustang 07-14-2005 04:37 PM

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i the no2 cooler to work u have to be move to forse the no2 back

J-MAN 07-14-2005 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by chinoy

I wont mind two if you can spare em. Will pay for shiping.

shipping is .37 so don't worry about it. just PM me your address.
those should be my last two.

mycrx 07-14-2005 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sixsick6
I used a digital pyrometer on one of my friends high dollar NTX Ntercooler spray kit. He bought it for $400 and you know how much nitrous costs. With my pyrometer (laser) I held it in position while he hit the button for roughly 20 seconds. It never read lower than 2º difference and this was when the intercooler was cool already and the car hadn't been run for hours.

http://img191.echo.cx/img191/4064/dsc022868ni.jpg

Silly ricer :(

Good pictures and write up, although I've done this back in 1992 lol

how are your checking air temp with that, your checking surface temp i beleive.

linkmustang 07-14-2005 06:44 PM

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it test the surfaces temp

sixsick6 07-14-2005 07:39 PM

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You're forgetting that an NTX Ntercooler unit is a surface sprayer anyways. If it only cools the surface 2º, it ain't gonna cool the inside much more. As said, the temp drop was measured after the sprayer had been on for a good 20 seconds. if it isn't going to cool it by then, it ain't gonna cool it afterwards either. As said, an expensive waste of money and a waste of nitrous that could go where it belongs, in the engine.

On the other hand, a cheaply done water/alcohol sprayer unit is more than useful, especially since it costs about $350 less. Eery sprayer that I have ever made has cost me around $15. My point is that the high dollar units are nothing but a gimmick.

J-MAN 07-14-2005 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sixsick6
You're forgetting that an NTX Ntercooler unit is a surface sprayer anyways. If it only cools the surface 2º, it ain't gonna cool the inside much more. As said, the temp drop was measured after the sprayer had been on for a good 20 seconds. if it isn't going to cool it by then, it ain't gonna cool it afterwards either. As said, an expensive waste of money and a waste of nitrous that could go where it belongs, in the engine.

On the other hand, a cheaply done water/alcohol sprayer unit is more than useful, especially since it costs about $350 less. Eery sprayer that I have ever made has cost me around $15. My point is that the high dollar units are nothing but a gimmick.

that makes more sence then your earlier post but at the same time if the engine isn't/wasn't running to be hot to begin with then you really can't get a decent reading in drop temp to compare to anything. but i like all the comments everybody is giving. starting to get more ideas. somebody mentioned hooking the power wire to the vtec solinoid, thats a really good idea so then you wouldn't have to worry about pushing any button. think i'll do that today.


chinoy 07-15-2005 01:20 AM

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That logic is still flawed.
Try this spray your tea-shirt. Sit arround do you feel cold.
now go for a spin on your bike. With the wet te-shirt big difirence.

But yeah anything more than watter or ice is a waste of time.

J-MAN 07-15-2005 01:52 AM

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i got tired of the switch so i hooked it up to my vtec solinoid and too make sure i know when it's spraying i hooked up a led to it and put it in one of the unused panels. everything works pretty good so far. i keep a gatorade bottle with some ice and water in the fridge so it will be really cold when i use it but my chic keeps drinking it :(. maybe i should add somethign to make it taste nasty ;). j/p

SiTurboD 07-15-2005 02:42 AM

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That ice on the intercooler , pretty nice .. i think skinnye tried that for his dsm that he top mounted.. that fucker had no use until he got the school bus fan underneath.. now shes a cool bitch. Oh i got picks of the 3 inch hole he cut in his bumper and stuck a tube and ran to the bottom of the intercooler as well.. i gotta post them ...lol

jundoc 07-17-2005 05:11 AM

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ya right jeff.... i want to be there when you add something nasty...LOL.... and im waiting to put on my sprayers...on......since you know it does add.... atleast some power...... ;D >:D

J-MAN 07-17-2005 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jundoc
ya right jeff.... i want to be there when you add something nasty...LOL.... and im waiting to put on my sprayers...on......since you know it does add.... atleast some power...... ;D >:D

where you been fucker? you need to come down one night and we can show these NA biatches whats up. i know where a big group hang out. ;) ;D. hit me up

jundoc 07-18-2005 06:06 AM

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ive been hitting you up its either your on the web... or your not home... i was gonna leave you a message but i was ---- that i know u dont check them so y try........ ;D all these wanna b racers over here are hating sick status... they talk saying for titles but none will go... one guy in a crx said he would ... but then told his brother to go get his other car...not his crx he was in... i was like wat a big PUSSSYYYYY... hey i was wondering if you have any extra piping... to go around from the turbo..to FMIC>.. need to have new piping. hit me up tomorrow...i go to work at 7:00pm to 3:30 now so either you hit me up or ill call in da morning....peace out O0

jundoc 07-18-2005 06:14 AM

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also sup with the injectors...hit me up...

J-MAN 07-18-2005 12:09 PM

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i have some straight pieces buts thats it. summit sells U bends for a decent price. i have the injectors in my car, was waiting till i talked to you.

linkmustang 07-18-2005 11:57 PM

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what if i run nonintecolled and just spray watter there the chare pipes come together would that work

Cray91 07-19-2005 01:01 AM

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what if i run nonintecolled and just spray watter there the chare pipes come together would that work
It would be better than nothing, but still not worth it. The pipe walls wouldn't get cold enough to soak any heat yup from the passing air. The IC increases the surface contact imensly (sp?), that is how it conducts the heat from the air and into the ambient air. Water to air is best because of the density of the liquid soaking in the heat, and water also has a much higher specific heat than air.

linkmustang 07-19-2005 11:37 PM

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even if chjarge pipes are abs

Skuce 07-20-2005 07:52 AM

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even if chjarge pipes are abs

Even worse.

ABS like almost all plastics are "Insulators"
So they will keep the heat IN and the cool atmosphere air temps OUT.

That's why intercoolers are made of aluminum and not plastic.
Aluminum is a major thermal conductor (that's why it's on the bottom of steel frying pans too)

linkmustang 07-20-2005 11:49 PM

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k i just dont have mopney for a intercooler with two in and one out or two probe intercoolers


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