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bigdaddyvtec 01-07-2009 05:24 AM

Re: LIMITS of a 40mm Tial wastegate?
 
Huh, I though he had that synapse piece of ----.... We all know the way he types...

LOL

HomeMadeTurboz 01-07-2009 11:55 AM

Re: LIMITS of a 40mm Tial wastegate?
 
It has as much to do with the wastegate placement and manifold design as it does anything else.

zrCREAM 01-07-2009 01:36 PM

Re: LIMITS of a 40mm Tial wastegate?
 
I pushed my tial 40mm into the 30 psi range and made I'm guessing 450-475 with the hx40 on my talon. Never once failed and is still going strong in a buddies car 3 years later.

HomeMadeTurboz 01-07-2009 03:07 PM

Re: LIMITS of a 40mm Tial wastegate?
 
Small gates typically have a tough time regulating a small amount of boost, with a large turbo. Hence boost creep. High psi is not nearly as bad as most of the energy is being used to drive the turbo. (an Example 76mm turbo, at 10psi)

Too large of a gate and you have a tough time regulating the boost, ie boost flutter.

Fwiw, I would run the smallest gate that allows me to run with out creep, this has a lot to do with manifold design though, so on a log or a full hype, you might need a lot of gate to control the boost, where as a passenger or love fab mani, you might not. All with the same turbo setup.

heyseemoreh22 01-07-2009 03:08 PM

Re: LIMITS of a 40mm Tial wastegate?
 

Originally Posted by bigdaddyvtec
Huh, I though he had that synapse piece of ----.... We all know the way he types...

LOL

Reading owns your tubby butt. LOL
No I sold that to a friend with a DSM and he isnt having any kind of issues like I was having with trying to get a base psi and hold it with out drop or the opposite creep. He's running 17psi constant. ------- sucks, but do figure its a DSM. I have a Ching Chond with Tial internals, I know because I bought their rebuild kit.
But ------- back to the subject.
So with my goal of 550whp, with this precision 6262E, With a Eville140 mani, with 3in full exhaust, with 1000cc precision injectors, WILL I OR IS IT POSSIBLE THAT I"LL MAX OUT ITS FLOWABILITY. I dont want to go out and spend the cash just yet for a 44+yet. Times are bearing down hard now on Toyota. They just announced another 11 days of shutdown. That means in the first month of Janurary I've burned up all my vacation for the whole year. Not looking good.

bigdaddyvtec 01-07-2009 03:15 PM

Re: LIMITS of a 40mm Tial wastegate?
 

Originally Posted by heyseemoreh22
Reading owns your tubby butt. LOL
No I sold that to a friend with a DSM and he isnt having any kind of issues like I was having with trying to get a base psi and hold it with out drop or the opposite creep. He's running 17psi constant. ------- sucks, but do figure its a DSM. I have a Ching Chond with Tial internals, I know because I bought their rebuild kit.
But ------- back to the subject.
So with my goal of 550whp, with this precision 6262E, With a Eville140 mani, with 3in full exhaust, with 1000cc precision injectors, WILL I OR IS IT POSSIBLE THAT I"LL MAX OUT ITS FLOWABILITY. I dont want to go out and spend the cash just yet for a 44+yet. Times are bearing down hard now on Toyota. They just announced another 11 days of shutdown. That means in the first month of Janurary I've burned up all my vacation for the whole year. Not looking good.

If the WG placement is cool, you should be fine

heyseemoreh22 01-07-2009 08:22 PM

Re: LIMITS of a 40mm Tial wastegate?
 
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I think I'm ok or RAndy would not allowed it
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And the Dump
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Got the ---- bolted up today
Had to take some material off the 6th bolt on the compressor housing, bolt is still functional, just needed some extra clearance so mani will bolt to head tightly.
Looks tits though, going to have to do some fuel adjustments for sure to beable to drive her around after the snow clears. DMC1 you game to just play with fuel? Same scenerio at before, gas and a meal paid? ---- I even have some parts that I KNOW YOU WANT for your twin cam. A little bribe! lol

Attachment 11076

HomeMadeTurboz 01-08-2009 12:57 AM

Re: LIMITS of a 40mm Tial wastegate?
 
How about a pic, of where the wg tube connects to the manifold. :1

dummee 01-08-2009 02:18 AM

Re: LIMITS of a 40mm Tial wastegate?
 

Originally Posted by dvst8r
How about a pic, of where the wg tube connects to the manifold. :1

The wastegate tube loops around from the collector so that it doesn't actually run off a runner. Good placement IMO and should work out just fine.

heyseemoreh22 01-08-2009 04:37 AM

Re: LIMITS of a 40mm Tial wastegate?
 
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Originally Posted by dvst8r
How about a pic, of where the wg tube connects to the manifold. :1

Ask and you shall recieve
Attachment 11063
Attachment 11064
Now from there the bottom of the WG shoots towards the ground and if your the one looking in the engine bay this is what you will see, NOTE THE EXHAUST HOUSING
Attachment 11065
It's a tight ------- fit.


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