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Tad 10-17-2004 09:30 PM

Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 
Ok, so I just got myself a used jrsc,
i'm running a jdm d15b vtec in my 92 cx hatch.

the supercharger has just an fmu for fuel management,
which is fine for now, as it comes with a 6psi pulley.

but it is PSI still, so I'm going to see some CEL right?

Well my question is, can I just run some checkvalve setup like people used to do on their custom turbokits to clear the CEL's?
or do I have to buy jacksonracings map controller..

and if I dont do anything right away, will it work ok even with the CEL's? I believe the kit comes expecting CELs..

but anyhoo, I just wanna hear what you guys think.

Dr.Boost 10-17-2004 09:36 PM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 
I'm not sure how they run check valves on OBD1 with the MAP on the throttle body, but you can just buy a missing link for around $40. I know it's alot more money than the check valves would be, but......

You don't want to be boosting with the cel on. The car is going to run like ass and it's not going to be worth it. You can baby it until you get it figured out though.

BTW, turbo ownz your supercharger. :P
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Reddy 10-17-2004 09:39 PM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 

Originally Posted by Tad
Ok, so I just got myself a used jrsc


Sorry to hear that

Tad 10-17-2004 09:53 PM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 
ok thanks,
any other benifits to missing link than clearing CEL's?

P.S. i'm not into ALL OUT SPEED or whatever,
i know a turbo setup would be cheaper & faster,
I have pieced together my own hmt kit before.
I like the sc for its simplicity, light weight, and smooth power curve.
150whp is my goal with this.

Dr.Boost 10-17-2004 10:00 PM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 
That's all the lissing link does. No MAP cels.

What is so light weight about the JRSC? ???

Did you get the aftercooler setup?
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Tad 10-17-2004 10:20 PM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 
well the jrsc kit weighs alil over 30lbs

my 14b/hf mani(no downpipe or even exhaust flange)
and a tiny half plastic 3rd gen rx7 ic, weighed over 40lbs
add in a downpipe setup, all the charge piping, front mount ic.. its alot.. and its all at the front of your car.

the jrsc kit replaces your intake mani(havent weighed the intake mani, but I have a feelign the jrsc doesnt weigh much more) and its at the back of the engine bay.

when I first got the kit, I picked the thing up and was really suprized at how light it was, i think the 14b turbo alone weighs more than the entire jr kit.

Dr.Boost 10-17-2004 10:26 PM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 
Stock intake manifolds don't weigh ----. I'd be REALLY impressed if your Uber racing charger weighs the same as a stock intake manifold. :P Plus, you can't really bitch about how much the intercooler weighs because it serves a good purpose......but you wouldn't know anything about that with your non-intercooled UberCharger. :P

I'm just picking on you anyways. ;)
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Bizzar 10-17-2004 10:41 PM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 
I never experienced any cel's with my jrsc setup. I don't think you will have a problem. Now, if you decide to go with say Uberdata to tune rather than an FMU you WILL have to relocate your map sensor to see boost. The Map sensor in the stock location on the throttle body will not see any boost as it is BEFORE the supercharger :)

Dr.Boost 10-17-2004 10:51 PM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 
Hmmmmm........I guess that makes sense. The TB wouldn't see boost with the JRSC, would it? :-[ God damn UberChargers and their funky ass designs. :P I'll stick to my precious turbos with charge pipes and intercoolers.. 8)
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Tad 10-17-2004 11:16 PM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 

Originally Posted by Bizzar
I never experienced any cel's with my jrsc setup. I don't think you will have a problem. Now, if you decide to go with say Uberdata to tune rather than an FMU you WILL have to relocate your map sensor to see boost. The Map sensor in the stock location on the throttle body will not see any boost as it is BEFORE the supercharger :)

aah, I see!
thanks for clearing that up.

and yeah, my ubercharger ownz joo and yer damn snailzz!!! :P :P :P!!

Guy-Fast 10-18-2004 02:42 AM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 
Well when it makes 35 whp I'm sure you will take that back.

Semnos 10-18-2004 05:41 AM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 
lol..That supercharger is light, because it's on of the smallest I've ever seen...isn't worth sh..t .
I would atleast custom fit a M64 in there....The turbo is heavier cause it makes more powa :P

Tad 10-18-2004 11:35 AM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 

Originally Posted by Semnos
The turbo is heavier cause it makes more powa

eehhhhhh :-\

anyways,
yeah my goal is 150 whp,
jr's dyno on the 6psi pulley with a z6 netted 140,
and people have pulled way more than that.
so yeh, 34whp would be adissapointment if that was ALL i could get out of it. my car probly makes around 110-115whp right now, so I guess that means I need another 40whp..

I think the JRSC is enough for that.

and AGAIN, as I ALREADY said, i'm not interested in max power, so enough turbo vs sc crap.

daymmn

Reddy 10-18-2004 11:42 AM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 

Originally Posted by Tad
and AGAIN, as I ALREADY said, i'm not interested in max power, so enough turbo vs sc crap.

daymmn



What did you expect when you came to homemadeturbo.com? Of course we're going to give you ---- cause its not often that somebody comes around here saying they're not interested in power or having a fast car so they picked a supercharger. :-\

Tad 10-18-2004 11:50 AM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 
yeh, might be hmt, but this is still the forced induction section.

and yeh, i'm not out for MAX power,
but I do want MORE power.. which is wut the sc will give me,
see what i mean?

projekteg 10-18-2004 11:56 AM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 
how the car runs depens on what cel you're getting, if you're getting a map cel, no the car's not going to run very well. if you get a map cel, then yeah, check valves should work fine, or you can buy one of the missing links for a cleaner look. what kind of fuel managament did you get with it, just an fmu?

Tad 10-18-2004 11:59 AM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 

Originally Posted by projekteg
how the car runs depens on what cel you're getting, if you're getting a map cel, no the car's not going to run very well. if you get a map cel, then yeah, check valves should work fine, or you can buy one of the missing links for a cleaner look. what kind of fuel managament did you get with it, just an fmu?

yeah it comes with just an fmu,
i think its a 5:1 disk but dont quote me.
someone in this post mentioned the map will be before any boost will be generated, so I dont think I should have to worry about check valves afterall.

BUT jr does mention in a blurb about their JR map controller, that it'll "clear your check engine lights"

so I wonder what cels they're talkin bout!

projekteg 10-18-2004 12:42 PM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 
just run it without anything and see what if any cel's you get, then address the problem, but don't go wasting money on something you may not need.

Tad 10-18-2004 01:36 PM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 
roger, thats what i'll do,

thanks all for the input everyone.

TiCaL 10-18-2004 06:24 PM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 
damn, a 5:1 disc is kinda lean dont you think!?!? most people always run 12:1 or 10:1 disc and they still dont use it for more than 7psi. you may run lean bro....

Tad 10-18-2004 06:31 PM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 
nah I'm not worried,
thats one of the nice things about the jrsc,

it is a prefabbed kit and its tried and true,
people run it all the time in its standard config with no probs.

if I go up to the 8psi pulley though,
i'll be running uberdata or chrome most likely,
and bigger injectors.

TiCaL 10-18-2004 06:53 PM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 
whatever you say bro. i trust nobody!!! even pre-fabbed turbo systems can blow your ---- sometimes!! i'm just saying that i wouldnt run a 5:1 disc at 6psi...---- i wouldnt run the fmu period! :-\

Dr.Boost 10-18-2004 07:03 PM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 
Yeah, the 5:1 is a very small disk, but you have to take into consideration he is only running a tiny supercharger and is going to gain 30-35whp at 6psi so that adds 30 pounds of fuel pressure. I would be kinda scared to run it, but you're not really making big enough power to be needing gobs of extra fuel.

BTW, pre-fabbed kits suck, don't let them make important decisions for you. ;)
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TiCaL 10-18-2004 07:37 PM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 
well yeah, i guess thats true....and pre-fabbed kits do suck!!! :P

Tad 10-18-2004 10:38 PM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 

Originally Posted by TiCaL
well yeah, i guess thats true....and pre-fabbed kits do suck!!! :P

well y'kno, I've pieced together my own turbo kit,
i do all the work on my car myself.

I like this stuff alot, but life is complicated,
sometimes you just gotta try and do things simple so you can put that brain power towards other more important things in your life.

cant spend ALL my time contemplating turbo kits n ---- afterall..

88crxSi 10-19-2004 10:53 AM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 

Originally Posted by Tad
if I go up to the 8psi pulley though,
i'll be running uberdata or chrome most likely,
and bigger injectors.

I would work towards uberdata now, not later .. but thats me.

projekteg 10-19-2004 10:54 AM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 

Originally Posted by crx88Si
I would work towards uberdata now, not later .. but thats me.


Tad 10-19-2004 07:10 PM

Re:Just got a supercharger(jrsc) can I run some checkvalves to clear cels?
 
yeah well I aint got the money for that right now, so :P


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