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ok so i'm not doubting JRC IC's at all, but after looking at the site and seeing the "budget 6 inch" and "regular 6 inch" fmic's i wanted to know what is really the difference, the only thing i can tell from the descriptions is the budget one doesnt have the mounting plates accross the top and bottom of the fins. anyone know if theres any real difference besides that? 155 shipped for a brand new intercooler, i'm liking the deal, but i dont know what the difference really is between the two and wanted to know before i made my purchase. thanks.

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"I've decided to make these intercoolers to answer customer demand and for something to offer to the constant low-ballers. While these intercoolers use the same cores as the normal 6 & 8, I have made some changes to the way the assemblies are fabricated to keep the cost as low as possible. They do not have mounting channels, only the fronts are finished, and they have the Hawaiian style square end tanks. These intercoolers probably have the highest quality to cost ratio in the universe. They are still pressured checked several times and are fabricated with great care and pride. These intercoolers do not have any options. What you see is what you get. Click on each intercooler for more information."

Right from the site. Only the fronts are finished, no mounting channels and square end tanks.

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JRC intercoolers rock my cock, i got my 5 inch one in the mail and blew my load before i chould even pull it out of the box all the way, and it took a long time, cuase that muther fucker knows how to pack a intercooler

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I'd never rock one of those. :P

Custom coach is selling for $170 shipped. * (and that's not built to market to "low ballers" ???)

Custom coach is a HMT advertiser. (Yeah, he helps keep the lights on)

Custom coach uses top and bottom plates, wether you like it or not.

Custom coach doesn't offer those "flow super" square endtanks.

Custom coach as on many occassions told me that if someone is willing to do an effeciency test with any intercooler, he'll put his up against any of them. Not declaring that he'll win the whole thing, but that he'll put it up against any.

An intercooler is supposed to perform before it looks pretty. I don't think the JRC is built to do either. :-\

That's just my opinion though. :P

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and stevo gets a kick back :)

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I only get kickbacks when I sell whatever intercooler I advertise on my site.



I could have sold any of them. Remember that.. ;)

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I'd rather pay the extra and just get the regular style intercooler. I think its worth the extra money unless you budget is really that tight than go for it.


My opinion I like the JRC better. :P


CCA 6inch:

http://www.geocities.com/speedpartsr...alogicpics.jpg

JRC 6inch:

http://www.johnnyracecar.com/pics1/6plain/6moda.jpg




Just to clear up some misinformation the JRC comes with top and bottom plates. I personally think the JRC looks better. There's only a $4.00 difference in price so its really up to you and whatever you like.

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bad review steve...

see the johnnyracecar banners up top ;) they're an advertiser too. my jrc has top and bottom plates just like custom coach. and my end tanks dont look much different than the ones ive seen on custom coach coolers either.

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I don't look at a banner and see an HMT member. :-\


I guess are opinions are devided. One day someone is going to figure out how to efficiency test these, and then we'll see what time it is. ;)

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w3rd and jrc is just now offering a ;more low budget version. its made from the same core as the regular 6 in.. sure the endtanks are square but in our setups will it really make a difference? i doubt it. i ran the cca on my civvic before and lost 2psi through that thing.... im trying out the jrc this time around, ill let you guys know how it goes...
http://johnnyracecar.com/ebay/6abud/6a$1.jpg

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That shouldn't be called the "budget" version, it should be called the "wafer". :D

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At least he's offering it. He also offers the better looking ones, so I don't think we should criticize the guy. Its a good idea to offer a "no thrills" functional intercooler at a low price. This isn't Homemadeshowcar.com :-\ I think your opinions are very one sided becuase you are friends with customcoach. I know Jeff gets a good amount of free merchandise from JRC so in a way he does support HMT.

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He does support HMT in a way, I just never see him around, and that's what I consider a member. I looked on his site and he does have a "new" core that he's using on most of his higher than "budget" intercoolers, and it seems to be alot better than the wafers.
I do have a biased opinion. I believe it's for a reason, but others may not. I don't know tyrus, and I've never used any of his intercoolers. I've seen them at installs and such, and my opinion is that they look like the bare minimum to make them cheaply. That's how I see it. Intercoolers do two things, cool down the air, and look pretty. That's the only two reasons why they sell. All we can really judge is how they look until someone comes up with an efficiency test of some sort.

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why not just datalog the air temps under boost? I'd consider that a somewhat decent efficiency test.

I've got a starion FMIC holding me around 90-95* @10psi right now and i'm leaning towards ordering a CCA today.

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I'll test them with datalogging IAT and also the psi before and after the intercooler. You send me an CCA 8 inch for the test (since I already have a JRC) do the test and I'll post the results. I bet they'll come out with the exact same numbers

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you have the 8" jrc?

If you were going to do a test like that, we should probably have more than just the two. Make it worth the time and find a couple more to go in on the test.

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I figured since its a simple test and I already have 50% of the parts than there's a very good likelihood that the test will actually happen. I don't think too many people would be willing to send me their brand new intercoolers for me to test them. I'd just do some runs without an intercooler, with a junkyard one, than the JRC and the CCA. Since I have absolutely nothing to gain from these tests I feel I'd be a pretty good 3rd party. Just send me an CCA 8 inch for a week and I'll do all the datalogging through my megasquirt ECU since I'd be able to mount the IAT and MAP sensor right before and after the intercoolers and I'll just post the charts. This would be a real world test which would show how efficient these things really are. ---- I'll even put the smallest heat pump possible on my car so we can see how they'd really work. ;)


You said it yourself he'd do an efficiency test against anyone and the numbers don't lie. My JRC still isn't used yet so you can't get a more accurate test. See what customcoach thinks and PM me if your interested so we can work out the details.

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looks like the budget jrc is still using the cut down powerstroke diesel core, i think the more expensive one uses something better. I dont like the gay mounting setup on the top, those would only be a nuisance to me. still nice value though

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is someone really going to do a comparison test? i'd like to know cuz i'll wait until i see results before purchasing one or the other. renr says he lost 2psi in a cca ic, so far i'm leaning towards jrc. i'm not really worried about looks, considering all you see are the fins anyways. i just wanted to know if anyone knew of any performance differences between teh budget 6" and regular 6". but since peopel brought up the cca's (which i already ruled out but i geuss not anymore) it'd be nice to know if there are any perf dif's between the three. i respect all your opinions cuz regardless of the bullshit banter that goes around, you guys do really know your ----. i'll await some tests before buying one over the other. let the tests begin ;D

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i've owned both personally, and ordered quite a few intercoolers from anthony, but i like my jrc much better than my cca, and it comes with better mounting options and all the hardware is included, and they're packaged much better than any of the cca's i've gotten. anthony's a great guy and i've met him personally, so this is not about the actual seller, but the actual product ;)

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my cca was packaged nice and i like they way they mount (all you do is use self-tapping screws right up into the metal bumper)

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I'm offering up my time, car and equiptment to test the intercoolers. Right now its just a matter if Stealthmode or Customcoach if they want to send me the intercooler. If someone is willing to send me a JRC 6 inch I'll also test that as well. I personally think with the 8 inch they're going to test the exact same and since the CCA is cheaper I think he would benefit from this test. But we'll see if it ever happens...

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that's how the jrc's mount as well, they come with brackets and self tapping screw's. i haven't seen a cca in a while, but all of the one's that i've seen in the past just had the tabs on the end tanks.

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the budget version and the regular version use the same new style core on the jrc's. theiir budget because they dont have any option like the top and bottom plates, the bolt holes oh and the end tanks are just square.

steve your really sound one sided on this issue. sure cca posts on here but arent 95% of his post regarding his ic anyhow? come on, theres nothing wrrong with a little competition. it makes the "lowballers'', like myself, as you call us, able to afford better ic's at lower prices. stop being a narc :-*

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isnt the JRC 8" cheaper at 199 shipped opposed to CCA's 8" going for 265??

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yea im talking about the tabs/brackets whatever. I dont think the top screw on brackets on the jrc would would well for me (looks like it would make it mount too low)

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ya know I've used both, and I really like them equally. For the setups we do here on HMT they are both more than adaqute.

I'm a little bit biased towards JRC just because he has probably sent me 10 intercoolers in the past 3 years, but his latest 8in IC is probably the best IC on the market for the price.

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only going with the 6", its more than adequate for what i need with regards to cooling. i just wanted to know if the budget 6 or regular 6 had any difs in them regarding cooling, lost psi etc.

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I think this is a great idea.I agree the units will probably test the same or very close. I have been thinking of doing this for a long time now but I didnt think it would look to good if I did the test and won. Everyone would say "of course his won, its his test" but if its someone elses test then its not a problem. I just want to make sure its fair on both sides. Is the JRC unit as thick as mine? or is it less than 2.75" thick. Is Tyrus OK with this, we havent heard from him on this issue. He may not want the comparison.
I would also like to take this oportunity to address some things that I have read in this post.
1) Who lost 2 PSI with one of my units? The 6" units are rated to 300HP and are tested to less that 1/2 PSI pressure drop. This has been verified many times on hundreds of setups. If you had that kind of drop you should have contacted me for a replacement unit or help with your setup.
2) The point that looks is only half the issue is very important. What good is a low price if the unit doesn't remove enough heat. My units perform. There are many examples of this. We have a SRT-4 customer running one of our 10" units running 12.9 on street tires on www.dragva.com. I have several 3000GT VR-4 customers making 600HP on our FMIC kit. As well as a Lexus SC300/Supra swap making 900Hp on a CCA FMIC(31"X14"X3.5" not a $200 6" unit)
3) I do more than get on here to talk about my intercoolers. Has everyone forgotten about the HMT thong model?

Let the test begin.

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Tyrus does not post on HMT therefore he does not get a say in weather or not we test his product. ;)

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if you're really going through with this, please do the 6", go ahead and do 8" if you want to, but seeing as how this all started because i asked about a jrc budget 6" vs jrc regular 6", you can see how this has evolved into something totally different...

anybody know on a time whenabouts the testing might happen, i'm getting stoked about my install date being a lot closer than it has been in the last 3 months so i'm finishing off my purchases :) thnx

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i rock the jrc 6in best one to go with 8 is just too big

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If you want the 6 inch to be tested than you need to buy a JRC 6inch and send it to me so I can test. I'm testing the 8inch becuase I already have it. So if anyone wants their intercoolers tested than you'll need to send me it. If someone has a DSM sidemount I'd love to test that too.

Earliest this test would be done is next weekend but nothing is set in stone right now. I need to buy another IAT sensor and get the code to datalog them both at the same time

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Can you also test a half sized radiator? I always wanted to make an intercooler out of one. ;D

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right now its looking like the budget jrc 6" for 155 brand new. why? because at this level of IC's, there wont be much of a difference. and its cheaper. sorry cc, nothing personal, just 45 bucks cheaper

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Anthony, If you wanna send me one of your intercoolers, and I'll get one from Tyrus I can do a test if you want?


We can do a pressure test, dyno test, install test lol... whatever you want.

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Good idea guys. Always so much debate about both

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We are running a special right now for $170 sipped. Thats only $15 more for offset end tanks and top and bottom plates.

I will ship out the 8" offset with bottom brackets Monday. Are you also doing a pressure drop test? Lets get all the data we can. I still think there won't be that much difference.

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ordered up and awaiting shipment O0

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anyone know if there's still going to be a test?