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StanB 08-13-2004 03:32 AM

Johnnyracecar FMIC
 
I need some help to decide which of his three designs I should buy for my D16Z6 turbo. Which would/should be the best choice? Some of my mods are: mild ported head, Zex 59300 cam and T3 turbo A/R 60/48 (aka super 60)from a Ford Merkur XR4TI. Please share your experience or opinion.

I apologize if this issue was addressed before. I am just too lazy to search the forum.

Thanks in advance for all the help.


quadnie 08-13-2004 03:39 AM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 

Originally Posted by StanB
I apologize if this issue was addressed before. I am just too lazy to search the forum.

I was about to start this thread off with a comment, but man.. come on. At least lie to us and say "yeah I've searched all around the forum and can't find anything".. can't expect people to hand feed you info when you don't want to get it yourself. There is a recent thread within the past day that discusses a similar turbo and some people with d16's discussed what they had and what was best.

Please put forth a little bit more effort next time :D

rob42386 08-13-2004 03:41 AM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 
Well i picked up the 32x5 for only 155 shipped just now on ebay!!! IM SO HAPPY i waited a week, and saved 20 bucks!!

StanB 08-13-2004 05:29 AM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 

Originally Posted by quadnie

Originally Posted by StanB
I apologize if this issue was addressed before. I am just too lazy to search the forum.

I was about to start this thread off with a comment, but man.. come on. At least lie to us and say "yeah I've searched all around the forum and can't find anything".. can't expect people to hand feed you info when you don't want to get it yourself. There is a recent thread within the past day that discusses a similar turbo and some people with d16's discussed what they had and what was best.

Please put forth a little bit more effort next time :D

I've taken the time to go back at least 7 days and there is no thread that discusses Johnnyracecar intercooler preferences. The only discussions I found are as follows:

1. People saying CCA is better than Tyrus
2. Is NX intercooler better than water to air
3. Someone asked if he should choose a T3 or T3/T4

There is no discussion about choosing one of the three sizes of Tyruss intercoolers and which works better. Did I missed it? I doubt it.

projekteg 08-13-2004 06:32 AM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 
32x5 is a good size, most people run a cca, or tyrus fmic about that size, it's easy to mount without a alot, if any cutting, and it's big enough to fill the opening in the bumper.

StanB 08-13-2004 06:40 AM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 

Originally Posted by projekteg
32x5 is a good size, most people run a cca, or tyrus fmic about that size, it's easy to mount without a alot, if any cutting, and it's big enough to fill the opening in the bumper.

Projekteg, thank you very much. This is the response I wanted. I was going to buy the new big intercooler (30X7.75X2.75) but I had second thoughts. I wasn't sure if it would be too large. Also, I am trying to limit turbo lag.

Reddy 08-13-2004 09:18 AM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 

Originally Posted by StanB
I wasn't sure if it would be too large. Also, I am trying to limit turbo lag.


Basic rule, you can never go too large with an intercooler. I've never seen a downside to it. Get the biggest one you can afford and fit in your car.


Also turbo lag is completely overrated. The benefits of having a good intercooler outweighs turbolag. Turbolag is a form of traction control...

projekteg 08-13-2004 09:24 AM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 
i agree with you whitey, but a 32x5 fmic will provide more than enough cooling for your everday turbo set on a d series

robs99si 08-13-2004 09:30 AM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 
here's the one i'm using: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33742
looks good and works good.

Reddy 08-13-2004 09:34 AM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 
Also if you worried about lag that much look at a different style intercooler. Longer ones will have more lag and pressure drop than ones that are taller. So if you get one that's 8 or 10 inches tall and shorter, it will be more efficient



Originally Posted by projekteg
i agree with you whitey, but a 32x5 fmic will provide more than enough cooling for your everday turbo set on a d series

It never hurts to leave room for upgrading.

green91 08-13-2004 09:35 AM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 
i have the 32x5 and im in the process of installing it right now.. to get it to line up with the hole in the bumper i am having to cut the ---- out of the bumper support! be prepared for some custom work.. heres the mock install of it so far
[img width=500 height=350]http://home.alltel.net/slacklin/fmic.jpg[/img]

;D

projekteg 08-13-2004 09:54 AM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 

Originally Posted by green91
i have the 32x5 and im in the process of installing it right now.. to get it to line up with the hole in the bumper i am having to cut the ---- out of the bumper support! be prepared for some custom work..

;D

i resized your pic man, try not to make them so big. as far as cutting and hacking, it really depends on the car, but it should fit most civics very easily. gree91, where is your bumper support, things would have been a lot easier for you if you got the mounting tabs on the top ;) i didn't have to cut anything except for the plastic out of the opening on the bumper.


http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg

green91 08-13-2004 10:02 AM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 
on the 5" core the tabs are on the end tanks..
to get it lined up perfectly for the front hole on my civic bumper im having to cut quite a bit out and is why the support isnt on yet, going to finish cutting/welding it today.. then cut the plastic on the bumper. what did you use to cut the plastic with? i want a clean edge so im debating on how im going to do it

projekteg 08-13-2004 10:06 AM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 

Originally Posted by green91
on the 5" core the tabs are on the end tanks..
to get it lined up perfectly for the front hole on my civic bumper im having to cut quite a bit out and is why the support isnt on yet, going to finish cutting/welding it today.. then cut the plastic on the bumper. what did you use to cut the plastic with? i want a clean edge so im debating on how im going to do it

well mine's only a 6 in, but the guy who makes mine gives you a choice if you want the mounting tabs on the back or top. i just used a dremel with a cutting wheel, then sand it down a little to get the melted plastic off, although i have used a steak knife before :P

Carnesd 08-13-2004 11:12 AM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 
4th gen's require an ass of cutting to get these intercoolers in there. If you've got an SI bumper then have fun with that, but I used an hf which is really small, you also have to hack up the bumper cover ALOT.

rob42386 08-13-2004 11:43 AM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 
LOL, im starting to get scared!! Ill find a way to mount it somehow, i just couldnt resist 155 shipped for it, i actually stayed up until 5:00Am so that i could pay with paypal!! Shits been down for the past week it seems!!
Im so happy!! ;D ;D

Oh and i think that the 32x5 will be perfect for me, it seems like it sits perfect in EF's front bumper, and will flow probably more than enough air to it!

HMT-Admin 08-13-2004 01:51 PM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 
http://www.johnnyracecar.com/newjohnny/20040803a.jpg

Tyrus just sent me this one to try out, Looking forward to it, the core is thicker, has top/bottom plates and supposivly it flows better. I'll letcha guys know how it fits.

Jeff

N1ghtM0nkey 08-13-2004 03:32 PM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 

Originally Posted by Whitey
Also if you worried about lag that much look at a different style intercooler. Longer ones will have more lag and pressure drop than ones that are taller. So if you get one that's 8 or 10 inches tall and shorter, it will be more efficient

Where would I go about finding one of these taller ones?

I actually have a 4G Accord so what works on a civic isn't likely to work on an Accord. I didn't think an FMIC would make much difference, do you have any kind of ball park figure of the difference between the two designs?

J-MAN 08-13-2004 04:07 PM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 
is it just me or have the tyrus front mounts gone down in price recently?

Reddy 08-13-2004 04:53 PM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 

Originally Posted by AbaZ


Tyrus just sent me this one to try out, Looking forward to it, the core is thicker, has top/bottom plates and supposivly it flows better. I'll letcha guys know how it fits.

Jeff


I just got mine in the mail today. Quality looks good, my only bitch is the 6 mounting screws that are mounted to the top and bottom plate. I wish they weren't there.


StanB 08-13-2004 05:41 PM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 
I want to thank everyone that has contributed to this intercooler issue ;). This will definately help other individuals decide which intercooler and size to buy.

Abaz, please keep us up-to-date after you've tested the intercooler.

green91 08-13-2004 08:18 PM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 
Well its official.. if you own a 4g civic you have alot of cutting to get it in! i finally got done cutting up the bumper support and got done with basic trimming on the front bumper cover.. but i now know that the 32x5 is the PERFECT size core for my car. she is always smiling now, and so am i when i look at it! enough fmic sentimental ----.. heres the pics:

I went ahead and resized them :P

http://home.alltel.net/slacklin/mounted1.JPG
http://home.alltel.net/slacklin/mounted2.JPG

sorry for the bad quality, i ran outside and snapped the pics real quick in the dark

i DO plan on putting the corner lights back in, they are just out because i gotta remove the bumper again for the intercooler piping once i get closer to getting done

HMT-Admin 08-13-2004 10:01 PM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 
I've used about 6 johnny race car intercoolers on my cars and friends cars, they are difficult to get to fit sometimes but with a sawzall nothing really gets in your way :)

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/turbo_...cooler_3_P.jpg

5in


https://www.homemadeturbo.com/drag/feb23/race1.jpg

6in

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/turbo/tt/tt40.jpg

10in


Dr.Boost 08-13-2004 10:06 PM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 

Originally Posted by 90zcrex
4th gen's require an ass of cutting to get these intercoolers in there. If you've got an SI bumper then have fun with that, but I used an hf which is really small, you also have to hack up the bumper cover ALOT.

Yeah they do. I cut the ---- out of my front bumper. It loks like hell, but hey, I've got a ------- intercooler in there. What do you expect? :-\


https://www.homemadeturbo.com/turbo/tt/tt40.jpg

------- nice. ::thumbs up::

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HMT-Admin 08-13-2004 10:13 PM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 
It took years of turbo experience to make that intercooler sit straight and look good 8)

lol



::has flashback:: god damnit I need to cut everything to make this fucker fit!


green91 08-13-2004 10:28 PM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 

Originally Posted by AbaZ
It took years of turbo experience to make that intercooler sit straight and look good 8)

lol

really? i just got done with my IC install and its the first FMIC ive ever done.. i thought it turned out really good. its level and centered perfectly

HMT-Admin 08-13-2004 10:40 PM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 

Originally Posted by green91
really? i just got done with my IC install and its the first FMIC ive ever done.. i thought it turned out really good. its level and centered perfectly

I was being a bit saracastic ;)

But that one was the harder IC's I have ever installed, there is no core support, and there are 2 inlets on the left side (twin turbo) which interfer with the bumper light. It was just kind of a ho. EG's and EK's seem to be pretty easy installing intercoolers, eh, actually most hondas are pretty easy.


green91 08-14-2004 12:02 PM

Re:Johnnyracecar FMIC
 
i had to cut quite a bit out of my bumper support (since i opted to keep it, already tempting fate in a wreck with a 4g civic) to get it it to fit. the plastic part wasnt near as hard, just sat with with my dremel and some sandpaper


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