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rudebwoy 02-22-2009 05:47 PM

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1999 HONDA CIVIC HATCH, (German specs)
Turbocharged (goal 600whp)

HEAD:
*B16A2 Cylinder head
*Crower valves springs, and retainer
*Crower stage 2 turbo cams
*Golden Eagle 84.5mm Headgasket
*Golden Eagle adjustable cam gears
*JG edelbrock intake manifold
*JG edelbrock 65mm throttle body

BLOCK:
*Golden Eagle 84.5mm sleeved B18a block
*Eagle H beam rods
*Mahle 84.5mm 9.0.1 compression pistons
*Arp main studs
*Arp head studs
*Gsr main Girldle
*ACL Race main bearings
*ACL Race rod bearings
*Moroso street and strip oil pan
*T1 Racing development catch can/modified valve cover

TRANSMISSION:
*LS internals YS1
*B16 shell S4C
*OBX LSD
*Competition twin disc

SUSPENSION/WHEELS/TIRES/BRAKES:
*Ksport full coilovers
*Avid aluminum torque mounts
*Prothane motor mount bushings
*Shifter bushings
*B&M Short shifter
*EDT front traction bar
*ASR Rear sway bar and subframe bar
*BLOX front and rear camber kits
*BLOX toe in/out adjusters
*BLOX rear control arms
*Rear eb strut bar
*Password JDM front 3 point strut bar
*Nippon F2 16"/Toyo proxis (street)
*M&H racemasters/ 13" lenzo VPD wheels
*Interga Rear disc brake conversion
*Goodrich SS brake lines
*summit racing slotted rotors
*ARP extended wheel studs
*Blox cromoly extended lug nuts

TURBOCHARGER
*Garrett T04R big kahuna(T67)
*K&N AIR filter
*Peak boost Topmount manifold
*Tial 44mm wastegate/open dump
*Tial 50mm BOV
*Apexi Turbo timer
*Hondata boost controller PWM kit with MAC boost valve
*3" downpipe
*Magnaflow cat/3" test pipe
*Kteller 3" catback magnaflow mufflers
*2.5" Peak boost charge piping
*CX bar and plate 700hp FMIC
*CX aluminum radiator &14" slim fan

FUEL/ENGINE MANAGEMENT/IGNITION/MSC ELECTRONICS:

*Precision 1000cc peak and hold injectors
*FJO peak&hold injector driver
*Edelbrock fuel rail
*Russel inline fuel filter
*8AN feed SS line
*6AN return SS line
*Fullblown motorsports dual fuel pump hanger
*2 Walbro 255lph HP fuel pumps
*AEM fuel pressure regulator
*Hondata s300 EMS
*Zeitronix wideband with display, integrated AFR, Egt, boost gauge.
*AEM 3.5 bar map sensors one for map, and one for boost signal
*Devil's own progressive methanol injection
*MSD digital 6
*MSD HVC coil
*MSD modified cap /honda distributor/
*MSD 8.5mm wires

INTERIOR GAUGE/ DISPLAY*Autometer Carbon fiber oil pressure gauge

*Autometer carbon fiber water temperature gauge
*Autometer Pro adjustable shift light with Rpm
*2000 civic SI cluster
*Zeitronix display
*Kenwood CD player*USDM cup holder (this is a must for us Americans) German cars don't have them

APPEARANCE/AERO AND COSMETICS:

*Type R front lip
*Type R rear lip
*Type R grill
*Spoon style power mirrors
*Password JDM cooling plate
*password JDM radiator stay

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LilWayne 02-22-2009 05:51 PM

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Pics? ???

bl4cklude 02-22-2009 05:53 PM

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Took the words right out of my mouth, pictures? :S

Someone spent some serious ------- bones on this setup.

rudebwoy 02-22-2009 05:53 PM

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working on it
they are fucked up

rudebwoy 02-22-2009 06:23 PM

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just need to finish up get it running, put it in the shop for a fresh coat of white, and ready for race season, sell the the coupe and buy a replacement daily driver. for those who knew , all I did was swap motors from the coupe to the hatch, and hatch to coupe.

StanB 02-22-2009 08:10 PM

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Damn! That's a sweet setup. Best of luck man.

bl4cklude 02-22-2009 08:24 PM

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+1. What kind of times were you seeing in the car the motor was previously in?
:6

rudebwoy 02-23-2009 07:23 AM

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12.3 best time with a bad ls tranny, but before bad talk, I am in Germany, on segmented concrete track uphill, high altitude. but I know with a better tranny I would have been in the low 11's with 440whp at the time.

CXyD 02-23-2009 07:33 AM

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What part of germany your are at?

rudebwoy 02-23-2009 11:51 AM

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schweinfurt. if you are anywhere close I need help.

CXyD 02-23-2009 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rudebwoy
schweinfurt. if you are anywhere close I need help.


No I live in Wyoming.

I was just curious I lived in Germany for 9 1/2 years during my childhood.

I lived in Dexheim, K-town, Darmstat, Dortroup, Budinggan, Hanau, Wiesbadant, Mianz, and Lenderhaoff. (sorry about my spelling I'm trying to spell with my poor german skills ;D)

17 years as an army brat made me not want to join the military. :3

onlyflash944 02-23-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bl4cklude

Someone spent some serious ------- bones on this setup.

quoted for truth

could have gone just as fast with half the money if you went D

CspecRun 02-23-2009 03:16 PM

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I thought you have had bad experience with MSD stuff in the past???

seerex 02-23-2009 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CspecRun
I thought you have had bad experience with MSD stuff in the past???

MSD= fail, I told you this last time.

rudebwoy 02-23-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by crxvtec91
MSD= fail, I told you this last time.

my boy been running the same msd digital 6 setup since he bought his 2000 si in 2000, and never even changed the coil. my bad experience was with the msd distributor, because I also ran a msd 6a for 5 years until I got tired of it. went through a lot of igniters with that setup though...

and to quote the post up top. I have no love D series motors, once you go B you will never look back trust me. D is cheaper ofcourse but takes more effort, and more money match the power of the B.

rudebwoy 02-23-2009 05:54 PM

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well I can't afford M&W, and I am not gonna put the faith of my 600whp goal on stock ignition. the digital 6 has proven its reliability in my friends car, so thats why I gave it a shot.

rosario4124 02-23-2009 06:09 PM

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sweet set up :6

seerex 02-23-2009 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rudebwoy
my boy been running the same msd digital 6 setup since he bought his 2000 si in 2000, and never even changed the coil. my bad experience was with the msd distributor, because I also ran a msd 6a for 5 years until I got tired of it. went through a lot of igniters with that setup though...

and to quote the post up top. I have no love D series motors, once you go B you will never look back trust me. D is cheaper ofcourse but takes more effort, and more money match the power of the B.

Glad your friend has had luck with them, hope you do to; but ask Xeno about all my friends/ all his customers fail luck with msd >:D

2 liter 02-23-2009 11:59 PM

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Dude, Hondas have an excellent ignition system. Erick Agilar from Ericks racing built the first all motor car to get in the low 10s and broke the 9 second barrier all with a stock Honda ignition.

Econo-Box 02-24-2009 11:03 AM

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You've made huge power before with MSD so i dont doubt you but MSD box is basicly why my car died and had to be sold off. ELD's never get repaired dude.

rudebwoy 02-24-2009 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 2 liter
Dude, Hondas have an excellent ignition system. Erick Agilar from Ericks racing built the first all motor car to get in the low 10s and broke the 9 second barrier all with a stock Honda ignition.

eric aguilar was one of my heros, but he is an NA guy. (I am boost it or go home guy) along with bizi, as I always told my other friend try somefor your yourself a instead of living someone else dreams/life.
I have more confident that the msd digital 6 will support my goal, and I will sleep better with it. aparentley I did not start this thread to help make a decision on ignition selection because I've already made the decision on it, if you read any of my previous threads you will know that I am not the type to take what someone say on the internet to make a decision on my projects. I've had good and bad experience with MSD stuff, but most of the bad I've read is hear say. my personal bad was burning up igniters while using the analog box, and I burned up the billet distributor after one month. while my friend was using the digital box for over 10 years. so I decide to give it a shot. if it fails me you can say I told you so, but for now let me live this one on my own.


Originally Posted by 97EconoBox
You've made huge power before with MSD so i dont doubt you but MSD box is basicly why my car died and had to be sold off. ELD's never get repaired dude.

this car is a German spec which does not have ELD , but I am using a US alternator and wire harness, and ECU , but the fuse box is still German. I just disable ELD in S300 software, I was thinking of buying a US fuse box to run the Eld but I think since the car was not design to use it its not wired for it . before I go through all this where is the ELD located in a Ek 99 model car?

marcj 02-24-2009 12:12 PM

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this thread sucks for the following reasons:

1.) it's a honda-tech'ish thread
2.) you are using honda-data.. for this you should kill yourself
3.) using MSD when it's not necessary

rudebwoy 02-24-2009 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by marcj
this thread sucks for the following reasons:

1.) it's a honda-tech'ish thread
2.) you are using honda-data.. for this you should kill yourself
3.) using MSD when it's not necessary

1.
why is it a h-t thread?
because my ---- is not ghetto rigged

2.
because out of all the other ems I've used s300 is the only I never had any complaints about, easy to use, and cover everything I want to do.
do you have anything negative to say about hondata? NO stfu Ive used uberdata, tired of pulling chips, used crome tired of pulling chips, plus I don't wanna hook up any ostrich or whatever supporting hardware it require.

3. MSD is my choice not your my car not yours .
if you don't like it you don't like it but quit hating.

I have nothing to say in my defence. you know you can't change my build so don't try. when I need help I will ask for it. read my other threads asking for help OK!

do you even have a drivers license?


rudebwoy 02-24-2009 12:27 PM

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why would just start hating on someone project?
people like me are who keep sponsors in business ok.

seerex 02-24-2009 12:31 PM

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I like the build, just dont like the msd. To each there own.

Econo-Box 02-24-2009 12:34 PM

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The ELD is the littel dude that rides the Alum or metal rail that slides through the 2 main fuses in the under hood fuse box. if you don't have one Awesome, i wish i didnt lol. Of course the US did and after i blew it i did everything from hand inspect the harness, swap fuse boxes completely, disable it in Chrome, nothing worked.

Funny enough the dude who bought my car thought he was gonna make some easy cash. I sold it for cheap 2500 and was totaly straight up with the non working speedo, told him it had been broke for like a year so there was like 20 K more miles on it and marked that on the title as he was telling me it was for his wife..... I saw it 2 weeks ago still for sale at a dealership literaly 2 blocks downt eh street. assclown has bee tryin to fix it and sell it for 4900 for the last like 6 months lol, bet hte fucker aint even married.

rudebwoy 02-24-2009 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by crxvtec91
I like the build, just dont like the msd. To each there own.

thats what I am saying, anyone can respect that. I just it was the nest best thing, and I hope it serves me well,not that I have any major doubts.

but when he telling me my ---- is H-T that ---- upsets me, I am HMT for life. don't let the s300 fools you just like things simple.

rudebwoy 02-24-2009 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 97EconoBox
The ELD is the littel dude that rides the Alum or metal rail that slides through the 2 main fuses in the under hood fuse box. if you don't have one Awesome, i wish i didnt lol. Of course the US did and after i blew it i did everything from hand inspect the harness, swap fuse boxes completely, disable it in Chrome, nothing worked.

Funny enough the dude who bought my car thought he was gonna make some easy cash. I sold it for cheap 2500 and was totaly straight up with the non working speedo, told him it had been broke for like a year so there was like 20 K more miles on it and marked that on the title as he was telling me it was for his wife..... I saw it 2 weeks ago still for sale at a dealership literaly 2 blocks downt eh street. assclown has bee tryin to fix it and sell it for 4900 for the last like 6 months lol, bet hte fucker aint even married.

so if I don't have it be happy without it? I shouldn't need it anyway I don't run AC, or power steering, or any stery stuff. so noo need for load sensing.

Econo-Box 02-24-2009 01:58 PM

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Yeah deffinitly no use for it regarless if its US or Euro spec IMO. Supposivley when its working all it does is detect loads int eh elec system and kick the alt off at like 2k rpm and start chargin. well when it breaks it made the Speedo act like it had convulsions and when i would drive for abotu 20 minutes you could feel the A/F change as you drove. so liek cold it would run lean had plenty of pep for an NA 1.6 but as it warmed up you could start to smell that gas fuels int eh exhaust more, it would basicly fall on its face unless you got up around like 4k. I mean if you think abotu it regarless of what the ELD says if you have it chipped its gonna use different A/F's so it shouldnt really be an issue unless it breaks, then it might jack ---- up.

R-MAK 02-24-2009 09:04 PM

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Thats quite an expensive list of parts you got. Hope you run faster than an 11.5 lol

onlyflash944 02-25-2009 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rudebwoy
people like me are who keep sponsors in business

yea, just not hmt sponsors mr. golden eagle and msd



for real, good luck with your goal, looks like you got your stuff together

solorex 02-25-2009 03:14 PM

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cool ----, I wish I had your budget .. ---- the haters they have never seen over 300 whp :1

rudebwoy 02-25-2009 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by onlyflash944
yea, just not hmt sponsors mr. golden eagle and msd



for real, good luck with your goal, looks like you got your stuff together

xenocron is HMT owner and sponsor correct? and I am pretty sure with all the cheap skates that he deal with on here, my cheapest order is more than most of the members here spent on their whole project,
stealthmode oil line supplier. plus other lines I have in mind.
tuner toys, its been while but yeah I supported him.
FJ all my bearings and studs
I've supported spoolin maybe before he was hmt sponsor but I did.
the other sponsors that don't supported is because they don't have what I am looking for, too expensive, don't ship to APO addresses or charges international for APO shipping. next I tried my best to not support the chinese market , yes my radiator and intercooler is chinese but they were cheaper from CX. so


so if my project goal calls for a sleeved block and a HMT sponsor don't carry I should not run because golden eagle is a H-T sponsor, and HMT don't support hondata so I must run a vafc hack.
I work very hard for my money daiy never collect any unemployment or handouts. I even duck bullets every once in a while, so please! I just thought that I would share my project with the forum I've been a member on the longest and spent the most time on. I just don't appreciate the hating. people who work hard deserve good ----. I don't wan't a junk yard turbo setup so I won't buy one.

lilpooh21186 02-25-2009 06:31 PM

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^^^^ much respect quailty parts doesnt mean your not hmt to the bone.

rudebwoy 02-26-2009 05:56 PM

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man o man o man! all this ignition talk.
someone could have told me that an ls distributor does not bolt up to a b16 head :1 :1 :1 . but because I am a geeeenyussss it took me 2 seconds to figure out a solution, just swap the internals to a b16 distributor shell. ;D

running into some problems here and there, no fuel in # 1 cylinder gotta check my injector wiring, I sure hope my injector is not dead. they are almost new.

integrals21 02-26-2009 09:29 PM

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nice set-up you got...its boost...forget the hating

rudebwoy 02-27-2009 07:40 AM

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Progress on the exterior. just order all the replacement body parts for it. new front and rear bumpers, right fender, and rear quarter panels.
I don't like to have a nasty looking car, and my rear quarter has lots of hidden rust, bumper cracked, front cut for fog lights, I wanna go back to stock.
so thats it for cosmetic stuff on the outside. interior is done.

rudebwoy 02-28-2009 06:29 PM

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another delay in my project. car wouldn't start so I started trouble shooting. found out I am not getting fuel in #1 cylinder so started checking my wiring and couldn't find any problem in the wiring, continuity and voltage checked out good. I checked everything from ecu to wiring to fuel everything good.

then something came to my mind . switch #1 injector with #2 injector, did that and turned out that the #1 injector is not working. don't know what caused it to stop working.
but I hope xenocron, or PTE will honor me by replacing it I own the injectors less than 1 year. I can't afford to buy another set now. but if I do I am going to 1600cc

seerex 02-28-2009 07:40 PM

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Damn so close to being done. How many miles on the injectors?

rudebwoy 02-28-2009 07:46 PM

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maybe 1500 miles


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