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96thgencivic 09-16-2004 04:49 PM

Installing Injectors w/out management???
 
Can you install the DSM 450cc injectors on a Y8 without management? I'm putting a turbo on using a V-AFC-II, but I wanted to get the injectors in. Will it hurt without the turbo and tuning?

turborolla94 09-16-2004 04:52 PM

Re:Installing Injectors w/out management???
 
if u dont have nething to control the injectors the car wont start

96thgencivic 09-16-2004 06:24 PM

Re:Installing Injectors w/out management???
 

Originally Posted by turborolla94
if u dont have nething to control the injectors the car wont start

That makes a whole lot of sense since the injectors plug directly into the stock injector harness. Plus doesn't the resistors have something to do with controlling the injectors?

Donald125 09-16-2004 06:29 PM

Re:Installing Injectors w/out management???
 
resistors will lower the voltage/current to the injector so it works with your current ECU, it only makes it comptable to the ecu.
if there are no FM, with those injectors, it will spray A LOT of fuel into the cylinder since the ecu is still operation the injectors at the same speed.. soak the plugs and it won`t start. of even if you got it started, it shouldn`t idle at all.

shortyz 09-16-2004 07:45 PM

Re:Installing Injectors w/out management???
 
yeah u can use the 450's with a VAFC.

u set your fuel values like -40% -30% etc.. its called "the hack"

also resistors have to be soldered in, or a resistor box put in/

Curtis2kul 09-16-2004 08:42 PM

Re:Installing Injectors w/out management???
 
i have a 89 honda so i already have a resistor box, there is no wiring for me correct?

willahlborn 09-16-2004 09:48 PM

Re:Installing Injectors w/out management???
 
Correct. I think what Donald was trying to say is that the resistors lower the impedance (ohm reading) not the voltage; to prevent your injectors from burning out your ecu. But even with the resistors the ecu is still going to think you have 240 cc injectors, and will pulse the 450cc injectors at the same speed, thereby flowing almost twice as much fuel. You'll foul your plugs, and even if the car runs, your cat will go bye bye and you will get 5 mpg.

96thgencivic 09-16-2004 11:57 PM

Re:Installing Injectors w/out management???
 

Originally Posted by Will
Correct. I think what Donald was trying to say is that the resistors lower the impedance (ohm reading) not the voltage; to prevent your injectors from burning out your ecu. But even with the resistors the ecu is still going to think you have 240 cc injectors, and will pulse the 450cc injectors at the same speed, thereby flowing almost twice as much fuel. You'll foul your plugs, and even if the car runs, your cat will go bye bye and you will get 5 mpg.

Thanks Will! Finally something that makes sense in answering my question. I will wait for my vafc before installing the injectors. Thanks

leed 09-18-2004 03:02 AM

Re:Installing Injectors w/out management???
 
Your car will start and be able to move, but sure will make alot of smoke.

HMTguy 09-18-2004 10:06 AM

Re:Installing Injectors w/out management???
 

Originally Posted by Will
Correct. I think what Donald was trying to say is that the resistors lower the impedance (ohm reading) not the voltage; to prevent your injectors from burning out your ecu.

Actually adding resistors increases the impedance, resistance, ohms, whatever you wanna call it.


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