installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
i was having trouble getting my ls-t to idle at any decently rich a/f ratio, so in the troubleshooting process, i got new inline resistors( to run my low impedance 550's) and installed them. well, long story short, my car wont start. my injectors open when i initially turn the key, car will start for less than 1 second then die, and i cant get it going again. i cranked it for a min and my plugs are dry (and i believe they should have assloads of gas on them from cranking 550s at wot).. management is uberdata, my numerical fuel values are dead on, and ive used different maps/chips and burners to no avail. anyone have ideas?
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Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
did you resize your fuel maps for the larger injectors?
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Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
yes
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Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
Did you put the resistors on the correct wire? Were they 10 watt 10 ohm?
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Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
resistors are 10w 10 ohm. i wired them in correctly, as i did one injector at a time as to not mix them up, and i also double checked my service manual to make sure everything matches up and it does.
i thought it mmight have been my ecu, but i just tried a new one, and it did the same thing |
Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
are you sur eyour injectors need resistors? was it runnign before you put them in?
what year is your car and what motor? |
Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
Originally Posted by jeffsciv23
are you sur eyour injectors need resistors? was it runnign before you put them in?
what year is your car and what motor? |
Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
That's Hilarious man, not to make fun of you but that's the EXACT problem I had. I have a 97 Dx w Ls/Vtec and 390cc DSM's and the car would crank and crank and crank and No fuel. It ended up being that just 1 of my resistors were bad! They were sittin in my local radio shack for 2yrs after all....?? And apparently if just 1 injector's is bad, then NONE of them work..... I just unwired the one injector clip(which By the Way I switched to OBD1 clips as too) and just running of 3 cylinders the car fired right up! Best of wishes man.... https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...?topic=42899.0
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Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
Do his injectors even need resistors though? They aren't DSM.
JP |
Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
Yes because they are low impedence. Just use an ohm meter and check them.
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Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
may be you forgot to click APPLY after ajdusting the injector size??
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Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
Originally Posted by shanerv
That's Hilarious man, not to make fun of you but that's the EXACT problem I had. I have a 97 Dx w Ls/Vtec and 390cc DSM's and the car would crank and crank and crank and No fuel. It ended up being that just 1 of my resistors were bad! They were sittin in my local radio shack for 2yrs after all....?? And apparently if just 1 injector's is bad, then NONE of them work..... I just unwired the one injector clip(which By the Way I switched to OBD1 clips as too) and just running of 3 cylinders the car fired right up! Best of wishes man.... https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...?topic=42899.0
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Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
fixed!
i went to a local pick and pull and got a resistor box out of an ef si, wired it up and the car started. it was still idleing like ----, but i dont have my wideband hooked up so i dont know how lean it was. i went back into uberdata and added like no joke 40 % fuel back to the idle portion of the map, now its smooth idle at like 21-22 vacuum. (im sure its too rich actually). so last question for right now, my fuel values at idle are right around 40 with 550's, or .5- .6 duty cycle. when converting injector sizes off a basemap, it gives me fuel values of around 25. any idea why i have so much extra fuel in it to idle properly? 25-30 gets a decent idle of around 14-15:1 on my friends gsr with the same injectors |
Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
weird, I got mine fixed too and now the car won't even idle without pedal assistance ??? It idle's like crap and I pulled out 45% correction so it's now at -45% fuel and yet when I pulled the plugs I can see fuel puddled on top of the pistons, so I dont know ???
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Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
damn.my problem is that the car runs perfect until I shut the car off.then I have to wait like 30 - 40 minutes before I can turn the bitch back on.Im not sure what the problem is .Im running 450 eclipse injectors on a b18b with uber and inline resistors.this has happened ever since I turboed the car so I just dont turn the bitch off if its a short stop ;D
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Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
Originally Posted by silverac
damn.my problem is that the car runs perfect until I shut the car off.then I have to wait like 30 - 40 minutes before I can turn the bitch back on.Im not sure what the problem is .Im running 450 eclipse injectors on a b18b with uber and inline resistors.this has happened ever since I turboed the car so I just dont turn the bitch off if its a short stop ;D
You should leave it run a little before you turn it off. That's the purpose of a turbo timer. JP |
Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
large injectors and uberdata can be kinda tempermental with hot starts. ive heard some people have a lil difficulty with it.
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Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
Originally Posted by silverac
damn.my problem is that the car runs perfect until I shut the car off.then I have to wait like 30 - 40 minutes before I can turn the bitch back on.Im not sure what the problem is .Im running 450 eclipse injectors on a b18b with uber and inline resistors.this has happened ever since I turboed the car so I just dont turn the bitch off if its a short stop ;D
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Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
where is the best place to get some obd1 clips? i need some too for my 450s i bought off of --------------------------- i will be tryin a junkyard probably on tuesday morning. but where else could you get em?
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Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
Originally Posted by 96_civ
where is the best place to get some obd1 clips? i need some too for my 450s i bought off of --------------------------- i will be tryin a junkyard probably on tuesday morning. but where else could you get em?
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Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
^ fine damn. ;D
its like peer pressure, "hey just do this everyone else does it, and its the best!!!" |
Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
Originally Posted by silverac
damn.my problem is that the car runs perfect until I shut the car off.then I have to wait like 30 - 40 minutes before I can turn the bitch back on.Im not sure what the problem is .Im running 450 eclipse injectors on a b18b with uber and inline resistors.this has happened ever since I turboed the car so I just dont turn the bitch off if its a short stop ;D
try replacing the main relay thingy. that solved his problem |
Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
Dude just cut of a little bit of the plastic like everyone else here does. It's free and works PERFECTLY ;) |
Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
Originally Posted by 96_civ
Dude just cut of a little bit of the plastic like everyone else here does. It's free and works PERFECTLY ;) |
Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
^ ill try to take some pics to show you
well lets just use this one: http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...91_88_full.jpg see the stock injector on the right? the opening is much bigger. here is a pic, i tried but flash mighta killed it: http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...91_90_full.jpg i wouldnt be comfortable cuttin that. it should cost much to get some odb1 connectors. i will just go to the junkyard on tuesday with one of the injectors and check out some CRX's that i've seen there, and ill just see if they fit, then ill cut em off real quick and splice them and solder them onto mine, simple as that. longest part is drivin to and from the junkyard. |
Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
haha so i was messin with the connectors and turns out that blue piece pops right out. got them to fit, but they arent on very good, i will still go to junkyard and try to find some OBD1, and pocket em, but if not it should be fine how it is.
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Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
i used to be a fan of the inline resistors, but my car runs noticeably better with a resistor box, if anyone is having trouble i suggest going to the box first and troubleshooting from there.
a junkyard should have the clips, also check the classifieds. |
Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
Originally Posted by shmaptoe
i used to be a fan of the inline resistors, but my car runs noticeably better with a resistor box, if anyone is having trouble i suggest going to the box first and troubleshooting from there.
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Re: installed inline resistors, now my car wont start!!!grrr
yea i was having problems with the resistors themselves. but getting 2 bad batches in a row was at best remotely frustrating and annoying
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