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ifly87 06-10-2008 07:04 PM

I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
First of all, are garrett center sections supposed to have 8X1.25mm bolts for the oil inlet and drain flanges?

I sent in my turbo to be rebuilt and it came back with a fucked up center section, the oil inlet is not threaded like when I sent it in, and I can no longer thread in my oil line fitting. SO I buy a T3 oil inlet flange, and now I need to buy larger feed line because its a -4an fitting and I have -3an. I sent this turbo out over 2 months ago and finally JUST got it back WHAT THE ---- and now I have to wait longer for more parts WHAT THE ----. Not to mention the turbo was less than 1 year old with less than 5,000 miles on it in the first place, what a shitty ------- business, and now my turbo is starting to smell like sweet and sour pork because my old standard bolts dont thread into it and I had to go buy metric [b]WHAT THE ----?!?![/b]

stenseltizm 06-10-2008 08:19 PM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
sounds like they sent you a different turbo then you sent in. I'd contact the shop immediately and calmly but firmly tell them to track down your original turbo.

might be a good idea to put a couple stamps in unnoticable places of your ---- for identification purposes. Also would help with theft after the fact. I know it won't help you know but it gave me the idea to protect my ---- ;D

CspecRun 06-10-2008 08:20 PM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
Who rebuilt this turbo??

SDRAWKCAB 06-10-2008 11:50 PM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
Did you get Blaasted?

HMTguy 06-11-2008 12:11 AM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
They obviously at least swapped out the center section, call em up.

stillnoturbo 06-11-2008 12:12 AM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 

Originally Posted by SDRAWKCAB
Did you get Blaasted?

Hahahahaha.

ifly87 06-11-2008 12:16 AM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
It is the same housings as I sent out, the compressor at least, and its the same size if not same turbine housing. I'm sure thats what they did was just swap out the center section with a new one.

Why are the oil inlet/outlet flange threads on the chra metric? is it a ching chong center section???

and yes, "I got Blaasted"


Originally Posted by jagojon3
They obviously at least swapped out the center section, call em up.

What am I going to say? there's no way in hell I'm sending it back and waiting until christmas to get a different one back.

HMTguy 06-11-2008 12:29 AM

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It's really not a HUGE deal, but a minor inconvenience. It's not their fault that the new adapter didn't work, but it's their fault for not telling you that the inlet wouldn't be threaded anymore. Can't you just thread it?

USS 06-11-2008 01:19 AM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
I can't believe Blaast is still in business. Such a shotty operation.

88dx 06-11-2008 01:22 AM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 

Originally Posted by Snafubmx234
I can't believe Blaast is still in business. Such a shotty operation.

no ---- :3

stillnoturbo 06-11-2008 01:30 AM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
I still think it's uncalled for. If they would of called for notified him letting him know they were swapping center housing. Be it if the housing was out of rebuild specs or they just have prebuilt chra's ready to swap the exhaust and compressor housings on it. Though if that was the case then why the two month wait? Hell Chip Foose can rebuild an entire car in a week but Frenchy Turbo Fucker takes months to send back a turbo and everything I've seen lately are bunk ass rebuilds. I was thinking of sending my thunderchicken pump there but have yet to see anything to throw my 150 clams into the garbage and wait months to get back a shiny turd. Gpopshop FTW.

crx2211 06-11-2008 06:25 AM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
I sold a Blaast turbo I got and it ended up being blown. I refunded the buyer and brought the turbo over to my local rebuild shop for inspection. It turns out there was 1 Chinese journal bearing in it that was new, and 1 OEM Garrett journal bearing in it that was original. There also was no compressor gasket and from what I gather the seals were just normal steel and not carbon like the factory. All signs point to it being "rebuilt" with Chinese internals. I thought maybe somebody messed with it before I bought it, and after Blaast fixed it, but reading all these comments I'm almost wondering if that's how it came to the seller I bought it from.

Also, G-Pop is notorious on some forums for using non-OEM components to rebuild turbos. There's even a saying called "G-Popped" which means the turbo was rebuilt with shoddy components. The bottom line is that mostly all of the shops claiming they can rebuild turbos are just basement operations without the proper tools one should have if they're truly remanufacturing a turbocharger. After buying numerous rebuilt turbos I've pretty much realized that once a turbo is fucked up it's like playing Russian roulette to try and have it fixed. I'd just stick to either used and unmolested turbos or brand new. I learned my lesson and am now done buying/selling rebuilt turbos. The fuckers spin so fast that it really shouldn't surprise anyone that they fail once they've been stuffed with sub-par internals.

E-b0la 06-11-2008 01:59 PM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
I bought a T3 50 .42/.48 trim from him. I've yet to use it, I wonder if it will leak or not?

HiProfile 06-11-2008 02:33 PM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
MOre than likely it will, based on how many issues those Blaaasstholes end up with.

I could see swapping a CHRA with a prebuilt one to save time, but at least use one with the same fittings. Its not Blaasthole's fault the fittings didnt' work - its Blaasthole's fault he didn't supply you with NEW FITTINGS THAT WORKED. Seriously, if you don't send back the exact same part, its not a "rebuild". Its called getting fucked over.

Blaasthole FTL

USS 06-11-2008 06:55 PM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 

Originally Posted by E-b0la
I bought a T3 50 .42/.48 trim from him. I've yet to use it, I wonder if it will leak or not?

Get rid of it as soon as possible.... I hope you didn't pay too much for it.

CspecRun 06-11-2008 09:26 PM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
I don't know, I bought a "REMANUFACTURED" turbo from him last year, bolted it to the car in August and have put 10 or 11 thousand miles on it. It doesn't burn or leak oil(knock on wood) and seems to boost fine. With all the talk I've heard lately though, I doubt if I'd deal with him again. It's a shame really. :-\

ifly87 06-11-2008 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CspecRun
I don't know, I bought a "REMANUFACTURED" turbo from him last year, bolted it to the car in August and have put 10 or 11 thousand miles on it. It doesn't burn or leak oil(knock on wood) and seems to boost fine. With all the talk I've heard lately though, I doubt if I'd deal with him again. It's a shame really. :-\

Mine had just shy of 5k on it, and it still boosted fine, it was just pouring oil out of the compressor.

I'm not mad about swapping the chra, but like you said I am pissed its different, I would at least expect it to be swapped with a similar chra.

Ive also noticed that some of the bolts in the turbo dont fit at all, like the ones holding the compressor housing on, they bottom out well before the head it tight on the housing's retaining ring thingy. Just shoddy, I used to tell my friends what a good deal I thought I got from that place but in the end you really do get what you pay for I guess.

CspecRun 06-12-2008 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ifly87
I used to tell my friends what a good deal I thought I got from that place but in the end you really do get what you pay for I guess.

U hit the nail on the head that time bro...

stillnoturbo 06-12-2008 09:17 PM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
Funny thing is Blaast still posts here though but he's yet to chimed in yet. In another thread where people were talking about using rc ball bearings in place of journal bearings to make a ball bearing center housing. People said they actually did that and that it DID work and he jumps in and says it won't work and it's not that easy. Have you contacted Blaast yet or no?

MikeJ-2009 06-13-2008 01:08 AM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
A completely different meaning of the term, "Gettin put on blaast". Blaast should be put on blast.

RYANARBOR 06-13-2008 12:14 PM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
Had a turbo all packed and ready to ship to them............then i talked to their custo service dept. for like 2 mins and was like :l.
Unpacked the fucker, bought a genuine garrett rebuild kit and had it balanced. 2 days downtime, and has been beaten to a piss every day for almost a year now, no leaks
had to buy a set of beefy snapring pliers so the whole bs cost me around $175 O0

1991civicsi 06-13-2008 01:39 PM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 

Originally Posted by RYANARBOR
Had a turbo all packed and ready to ship to them............then i talked to their custo service dept. for like 2 mins and was like :l.
Unpacked the fucker, bought a genuine garrett rebuild kit and had it balanced. 2 days downtime, and has been beaten to a piss every day for almost a year now, no leaks
had to buy a set of beefy snapring pliers so the whole bs cost me around $175 O0

Who balanced it?

stillnoturbo 06-13-2008 08:12 PM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
---- a balance. Just mark where the wheel lines up on the shaft.

CspecRun 06-13-2008 08:40 PM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 

Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
---- a balance. Just mark where the wheel lines up on the shaft.

Try that next time and tell us how it turns out.

mopar318 06-13-2008 08:52 PM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
Theres a guy Ive sent a few turbos to In Puerto Rico that does good work. Hes just really hard to get ahold of. He has a huge speed shop, has a sonic cleaning machine or something like that.

The turbo on my car was rebuilt by the G-Pop shop. The guy before me had this done but its doesnt smoke, and makes boost fine. Time will tell I guess.

crx2211 06-13-2008 11:59 PM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
From what I gather, turbine shafts/wheels are already balanced from the factory, but they have to be straightened before they can be ran again and have a prayer of working.

ifly87 06-14-2008 01:03 AM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
sure they are balanced from the factory, but when you bolt on a compressor wheel to a turbine wheel/shaft, you need to balance the whole rotating assembly, at least thats what I understand.


Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
Have you contacted Blaast yet or no?

I have called him numerous times while waiting he kept giving me the run around, I got pissed and when it got here with a different style center section it pushed me over the ege. The car is still down (waiting for new oil lines) I have been paying insurance on it for 2 months that I didnt need to now, spent money on inlet flange, new hardware, and now new oil lines. The money for the new stuff is not such a big deal to me its just that I have not been able to drive this thing yet this summer thats pissing me off real bad all because of a turbo that didnt even last 5,000 miles.

effvee 06-14-2008 02:40 AM

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Hi everyone, I'm into VWs. I have been trying to match a DSM twin system. I was the guy asking about the roller bearings center section. Well long story short, I wanted to match my T-25 turbins of .48. Blast contacted me saying for 150.00 he would sell me a set of turbine housing .48. I PayPal his price, it took three weeks to receive defective parts. Both housings were damaged not from shiping but bad machining. One stud was double cross threaded. The other one had a stripped hole, yeah this is no BS. I thought that he was just a turbo rebuilder and had a extra set of .48s, I needed the small size for my 2.9 twin applicatoin. If he has no business morals, bad mouth him, I have no problem telling the truth about his dishonesty. And lastly, he did not even try to package the shippment, stuff just got bang around.
Check out this site; http://www.gpopshop.com/upgrades.html I for one don't need to put money in the hand of someone outstde of the USA, and when you have a problem they know you are out of luck. I would be willing to beat you, if we lived in the town where he did business, he would not do that.

Minor Threat 06-14-2008 03:01 AM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
Blaast is a hack. He rebuilt a friend of mines turbo and tried to stuff NPT fitting in a metric hole, we then sent him pictures of his fitting along with pictures of the right one and he still tried to claim his would work.

It's a backyard operation run by a frenchman, nothing more.

Every time you order a turbo from him, you'll get a different combo of parts used to assemble it because it's all built with used parts that have been -----d from piles of junk busted ----.

For what it costs to buy a new journal bearing turbo these days, you're almost better off doing that then wasting your time and money buying used turbos, finding out their blown and then getting raped trying to have them "rebuilt"

pissnuts 06-14-2008 04:05 AM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
this is ososlo ... me and bac have always stated that this guy is a hand job French Canadian ----!!! it seems like now ( 2 years later) a hundred other people now agree.. all i can say is told ya so :-*

crx2211 06-14-2008 04:52 AM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 

Originally Posted by Minor Threat
For what it costs to buy a new journal bearing turbo these days, you're almost better off doing that then wasting your time and money buying used turbos, finding out their blown and then getting raped trying to have them "rebuilt"

For sure. I really think that rebuilding a turbo is hit and miss by anyone unless it's genuinely balanced with a big ass expensive machine and ALL new internals are fitted. The problem is that when you join some parts that are worn, and some that aren't; you get issues in a device that spins 150k< rpm's. Blaast has some good recommendations, so all his turbos weren't bad. If he's fitting them with used or Chinese parts then that's a miracle lol.

I'd say "rebuilt" simply isn't the way to roll. With used turbos these days you just don't know, so brand new is the answer. It's not worth the few bucks you'll save buying used or rebuilt. Chinese turbos are the same way too. They're hit and miss. Then again, companies like PTE and AGP that modify Garrett factory turbos see failure occasionally. The only way to absolutely guarantee perfection IMO is to buy a brand new Garrett that's straight from the factory. Just budget it into your build. $400+ for a new turbo.

SDRAWKCAB 06-14-2008 01:16 PM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 

Originally Posted by crx2211
I'd say "rebuilt" simply isn't the way to roll. With used turbos these days you just don't know, so brand new is the answer. It's not worth the few bucks you'll save buying used or rebuilt. Chinese turbos are the same way too. They're hit and miss. Then again, companies like PTE and AGP that modify Garrett factory turbos see failure occasionally. The only way to absolutely guarantee perfection IMO is to buy a brand new Garrett that's straight from the factory. Just budget it into your build. $400+ for a new turbo.

Blasphemy!

seerex 06-14-2008 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
---- a balance. Just mark where the wheel lines up on the shaft.

This does not work. I had a good turbo with bad seals. I did what you just said and it only lasted 2 blocks :P

CspecRun 06-15-2008 12:49 AM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 

Originally Posted by crx2211
For sure. I really think that rebuilding a turbo is hit and miss by anyone unless it's genuinely balanced with a big ass expensive machine and ALL new internals are fitted. The problem is that when you join some parts that are worn, and some that aren't; you get issues in a device that spins 150k< rpm's. Blaast has some good recommendations, so all his turbos weren't bad. If he's fitting them with used or Chinese parts then that's a miracle lol.

I'd say "rebuilt" simply isn't the way to roll. With used turbos these days you just don't know, so brand new is the answer. It's not worth the few bucks you'll save buying used or rebuilt. Chinese turbos are the same way too. They're hit and miss. Then again, companies like PTE and AGP that modify Garrett factory turbos see failure occasionally. The only way to absolutely guarantee perfection IMO is to buy a brand new Garrett that's straight from the factory. Just budget it into your build. $400+ for a new turbo.

What ------' gets me is that THERE ARE reputable shops in alot of areas that have the machinery and equipment to rebuild and balance turbo's for diesel engines on semis, farm equipment, etc. etc. But if you walk in the place with a turbo that is used for something other that, they look/talk at/to you like ur ------' stupid and don't have a clue as to what you're talking about.

Minor Threat 06-15-2008 10:22 PM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
Cliffs:

Don't buy french canadian rebuilt turbos.

Buy used turbos only if you want to throw them away when blown.

Buy new if you can.

90turboteg 06-15-2008 10:59 PM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
i recently got a t3/t4 from blasst 82 exhaust 70 comp, put it on my car, within a week it had unusable amounts of shaft play and endplay, even allowed for a 500 mile brake in period. now the wheel touches the comp housing like crazy, so now im fucked. idk what to do, doubt theres any sort of warrenty, and i dont want to wait long again. also the comp wheel will touch the housing if theres no compressor seal inbetween when bolted down, but ive had a few turbos without seals and they still spin and dont touch, like somthing wasnt machined properly. anyone got a turbo good for 500+whp for me :6

NIGn0g 06-15-2008 11:18 PM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 

Originally Posted by Minor Threat
Cliffs:

Don't buy french canadian rebuilt turbos.

Buy used turbos only if you want to throw them away when blown.

Buy new if you can.

Most of the time I dont agree on what you guys say about french canadian, but on that I can't be against... I was 15 yo (I'm 22 now) when I first see blaast on http://www.montrealpreludeclub.com. His prelude was about to get boosted at that time I think. If he cant rebuilt a turbo after 7 years, he will never do it good...

I always say: if you can't do something well, don't do it...

Magik123 06-16-2008 10:12 PM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
ordered mine from gpop and guess i got lucky boosts great so far doesnt leak... he was also very helpful and even modified the exhaust flange for the manifold for me so i could use my adapter plate, grinded the bolt holes flat and drilled out the threads for me (wanted to bolt her up soon as she came back). They were easy to deal with and would take my calls seemed reputable.

stillnoturbo 06-18-2008 11:27 PM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 
I love that Blaast has yet to post even though he's on here nearly every day and just posted in a thread in this forum. What a ------- assblazer

j3w 06-19-2008 12:59 AM

Re: I think I got fucked on my "professional rebuild"
 

Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
I love that Blaast has yet to post even though he's on here nearly every day and just posted in a thread in this forum. What a ------- assblazer

he's french. when attacked, he runs away as fast as those little frog legs will carry him. i'm surprised he didn't incllude white surrender flags with a blaast logo on them in the boxes he shipped the "rebuilt" turbos back in.


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