Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Glad to see my little ghetto EBC is helping out the community...
Also gives me a warm fuzzy feeling to see you swing your n00b hammer Joey. |
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Sorry, the more I get people trying to force me to tune K-series, the angrier I become.
|
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
That CRX is ------- sweet. Maj. Dick, hahahaha
I used a vacuum solenoid activated via a levered micro switch on the throttle body before. Floored was low boost, mashed into the carpet was high boost. In reality, it didnt work because Id get too excited and mash it into the carpet no matter what :1 If you're local to a pull-a-part style yard, grab the giant firewall mounted black box off a mid 80's carbed honda. The ones with ten miles of vacuum lines. There will be about 8 of those valves in there + all kinds of useful vacuum fittings and such. |
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Schweeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
|
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
No, I'm pretty much like this all of the time. It seems to grow on people after a while and they love me for it. You know, down deep, that you want to love me, too.
:) |
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Eh, he *did* posts some pics of the cage in his car for me a while back, for which I am greatly appreciative. He's really a good n00b, down deep, and I was legitimately angry from having to tune K-series.
|
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Eh, he *did* posts some pics of the cage in his car for me a while back, for which I am greatly appreciative. He's really a good n00b, down deep, and I was legitimately angry from having to tune K-series.
|
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
I haven't touched one of the drive by wire cars yet. The '05 EP3 didn't have it.
I can't say I cared for either the Scioin tC or Hyundai Azera, both of which has drive by wire, that I've driven. They are *easy* to drive in regular traffic, but I wouldn't call them good to drive or controllable. |
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Last summer this guy that had a class with me wanted me to check out a problem with his audi. He was complaining that he'd floor the gas and then would have to wait la second to take off. Turn out It was drive by wire and the litle motor that opened the throttlebody would just take forever to open it all the way up. It makes no sense to me why add useless parts and make things over complicated. All drive by wire does is take the direct feel of driving a car away and adds twice the things that can go wrong.
|
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
I'm all for computers and robots taking over the world,
but I like to have a mechanical linkage for steering and throttle at the very least. |
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Prepare for law enforcement's ability to dial your throttle down to a valet mode, where it can only open 10% or so... just enough for you to limp to the side of the road and wait for your speeding ticket.
|
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Prepare for law enforcement's ability to dial your throttle down to a valet mode, where it can only open 10% or so... just enough for you to limp to the side of the road and wait for your speeding ticket.
There are ways around everything. That's how I live. |
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
i have a question about this set-up, can you use this as a EBC with a pressure switch in the CP ??
thanks mike |
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
No, because it's still a MBC regarless of how you actuate it. ;)
|
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
I was thinking about doing this for a long time, but I got a turboxs ds for cheap, and trying to find a solenoid valve with 3 in/outlets that are all either with nipples or threads AND 12VDC AND cheap is a PITA. I think Grainger has the cheapest at like $28 each. I actually was thinking about the PCS not long ago, but not everyone has a spare or 3. Kinda weird how I just 'find' this thread lol. ::)
|
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
looks great but i cant figure it out ...
|
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
:)
good thread |
This Post Started in FEB
This post started in feb, do we have any Example's that have been created since?
this is a very gewd read pity most of those parts arent avalible in my country... Let see some pic's, Personaly im looking for one that will up my boost buy .5bar(7psi) then back down kind of like a extra kick.... or a 10 Second Power boost like they use in A1GP |
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Good idea, good write up....this is what i'm here for :)
|
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
just saw this today for the 1st time (stickies? what stickies?) and ordered the valves from mcmaster 5 mins ago. how do you adjust the graingers though?
|
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Is your STD syphillis, and has it started to rot out your brain yet? Spin the Grainger valves, duh. :1
;) |
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Will this boost controller have the "grainger valve effect"
Please keep the reply's REAL, this is a sticky! |
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Is your STD syphillis, and has it started to rot out your brain yet? Spin the Grainger valves, duh. :1
;) now that i have them though, its obvious how they work. now im pissed cause i cant find my spare ECS i had. anyone have a spare one laying around? |
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Originally Posted by Speed Phreak
Hi all, not many people know me because I'm rarely here. However I was compelled to post up my homebrew staged boost controller. Let face it, we're all here becuase the most of us are cheap/broke speed junkies. I'm always on the look out for a good deal or creatively cheap way of doing things.
My car has traction problems (like most FWD chassis turbo cars do)... 6~7psi most of the time will burn down 1st and 2nd gears without careful roll on throttle application, any higher boost than that makes my first 2 gears useless period. This is on a decent suspension, a Quaife LSD, and BFG DR's. I've always wanted some way to control boost over speed/gear, but short of buying a AVC-R or doing some in depth electronics work that prolly won't happen. I figured why not make myself some sort user of selectable MBC(s)? So with a trip to the spare parts bucket I cobbled together a little 3 stage selectable boost controller that runs W/G spring in the first stage and MBC settings on stages 2 and 3. Total cost on the whole rig was about $40....cheap enough I suppose. The majority of that cost for me stemed from the "Grainger" valves that I purchased to use as ball/spring MBC's($9/per). Also I purchased a shift knob with 4 buttons intergrated into it from the local Autozone for $15 on sale...I've seen them for this much online as well. Your own MBC's can be whatever you having laying around/purchased but they have to be ball/spring type. ** Vacuum bleed type will not work with the diagrams I have provided. I can however produce a diagram that will work, but it will be much more complex than the current design.** The basic principle I designed this setup around was to allow me to run multiple stages of boost without having to fumble for switches or take my hands far from the steering wheel/shifter. The "Grainger" valves used in my setup fit perfectly on the honda/acura purge control solenoid. They can be purchased at your local Grainger store if you can find someone with a commercial account, they don't sell to the public(part # 5z763). If you are unable to do this McMaster carries the same pressure relief valve, part # 48935K25. They sell online to anyone. Both will need a { 1/4" female pipe --> 1/8" barbed hose } fitting. The fitting and "Grainger valve" looks like this --> http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...ak/fitting.jpg The real deal for your visual learners http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...IYBoost003.jpg Here is a diagram for ease of assembly. http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w.../ghettoEBC.gif The shift knob I spoke of earlier...really made things come together well. It is basically a 4 button wireless transmitter with a brain box the has the 4 outputs. It's a cheap peice but works none the less. You may need to do some relay/electrical tomfoolery depending on your own designs. I'm happy to provide diagrams of my own setup or help if there is interest. http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w.../shiftknob.jpg Everyone enjoy... |
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
I regret ever asking Speed Phreak to post this write up here.
|
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
I regret ever asking Speed Phreak to post this write up here.
Your a smart guy I wish we had more peopl in my local scene like you and speedphreak. the concept isn't wasted on all of us. It's just all the idiots that seemed to post in the thread. |
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Hrm.
The thread needs editing, and locking so it can't be polluted. Let the people who can understand basic ball-spring boost controller operation benefit while the inept flounder. If you want a local scene you have to build one. |
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Hrm.
The thread needs editing, and locking so it can't be polluted. Let the people who can understand basic ball-spring boost controller operation benefit while the inept flounder. If you want a local scene you have to build one. and yeah locking and editing the thread is a good idea. everything that needs said has been covered. |
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
i need to get one of these
|
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
thats pretty interesting,might have to check that out
|
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
This is AWESOME, but any boost spiking with this set up? i built a similar MBS a while back, it was a dual stage. it spike when you mashed the gas in a high gear. example. 35 mph 3 gear or on interestate trying to pass a car in 5th. i tried misc fitting sizes, bleed hole sizes, pretty much everything. could never get rid of the 2-3 psi spike.
|
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Originally Posted by xxguyxx
This is AWESOME, but any boost spiking with this set up? i built a similar MBS a while back, it was a dual stage. it spike when you mashed the gas in a high gear. example. 35 mph 3 gear or on interestate trying to pass a car in 5th. i tried misc fitting sizes, bleed hole sizes, pretty much everything. could never get rid of the 2-3 psi spike.
|
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Originally Posted by Dmc1
if it's only two to three psi then it's not spike. Just a small gift :6
|
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Originally Posted by Ogubudiah
so how do you switch the maps to accomodate this, while driving?
|
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Originally Posted by turbo4life
this is boost levels as long as its tuned for up to the max boost u run but ya fine tunning will be need if the low boost area was not tuned like most tuner just tune at WOT full boost.. but your probably confusing this with switching maps for different fuel octane.... witch all i knwo of is on turbo vw..
|
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Originally Posted by leed
That CRX is ------- sweet. Maj. Dick, hahahaha
I used a vacuum solenoid activated via a levered micro switch on the throttle body before. Floored was low boost, mashed into the carpet was high boost. In reality, it didnt work because Id get too excited and mash it into the carpet no matter what :1 If you're local to a pull-a-part style yard, grab the giant firewall mounted black box off a mid 80's carbed honda. The ones with ten miles of vacuum lines. There will be about 8 of those valves in there + all kinds of useful vacuum fittings and such. WORD to this brother :y |
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Prepare for law enforcement's ability to dial your throttle down to a valet mode, where it can only open 10% or so... just enough for you to limp to the side of the road and wait for your speeding ticket.
oh ya and look google search smart chip mondex |
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
|
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
wow I thought I knew what I was talking about when it came to turbo kits.....I was soooo wrong.. I need to start taking notes. no joke. lol noob status all over again.
|
Re: Homemade Boost control at it's finest...
I have got a T valve with a knob on it, when you turn the knob down you can restrict air flow, i was wondering if that will work as a boost controller
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:28 AM. |
© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands