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warrenb213 04-25-2007 02:49 AM

Here is what I intend on. A quick looksy/advice?
 
14b turbo 150
Manifold - log? 300
Intercooler w/ piping 300
BOV 150
BOV Flange 20
Charge Piping 2" 100
450cc injectors 75
ECU P75 OBD-1 80
Oil Lines 100
Boost Guage 50
Vacume Lines 10
Couplers Clamps 75
Tuning 300
SRP Rods and Pistons 700
8.7 comp
D16y8 transmission 160
TOTAL: Around $2570

Do these figures seem pretty much on the money?

The engine to be installed to is a d16y7. I am aware of the restrictive intake manifold(would replace later). The tuning listed above would be through a local performance shop which I'd imagine would have a tuning program already and could figure out how to interface with the p75. So, my question is, if I did have this set up, what kind of numbers would I realistically be seeing, and what kind of a quarter mile would I expect(my sedan weighs 2470lbs or so). I hear a lot about how a good tune means everything, but mechanically speaking what would the reliability of my engine be sitting at and theoretorically what would be the most power to hope for with those internals?

I've run a compression check, the engine was rebuilt about 40k ago is still running strong and all cylinders after rebuild were around 190psi compression.

I'm really asking because after the research I've done I still have some questions which I haven't been able to find that solid of an answer on considering my set up is different than some I've seen. I realistically want this for a daily driver, I want the fast spool so I can pounce without the turbo lag, I don't mind the last 1000rpm's are said to be out of the 14b's range of peak power. I want the car to run a 14.1 on my BFGoodrich gForce KDW NT's. It'd be nice to aim for that goal without totally breaking my budget.

Another rather pressing issue would be the question: If when emissions time comes since I'm using all OBD2 equipment via the OBD1 adapter harness, would I be able to pop my old original OBD2 ecu in, replace the injectors back to stock, lower the boost to almost nothing, and still pass emissions? I mean, all sensors and such would still be in place and in OBD2 style. Would this rollback system work?

WTF 04-25-2007 03:19 AM

Re: Here is what I intend on. A quick looksy/advice?
 
ouch

ososlohatch 04-25-2007 03:21 AM

Re: Here is what I intend on. A quick looksy/advice?
 
ill do all that for only half the price if you come to my house ..

warrenb213 04-25-2007 03:27 AM

Re: Here is what I intend on. A quick looksy/advice?
 
Yea the price seemed huge to me too. That money would be 3-4 months worth of my summer @ 50hrs a week while still being able to afford a thing I call survival. lol.

I would totally be down for coming out to your place to get the hook up, but I live in Portland, OR. yea...lol. Anyway, for shits and giggles here is a pic of the car right now,
http://a736.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...22964735_l.jpg

baker_jeff 04-25-2007 08:17 AM

Re: Here is what I intend on. A quick looksy/advice?
 
14b turbo 150
Manifold - log? 300
Intercooler w/ piping 300
BOV 150

Buy these items in the market place here, and you've got:

14b turbo 80
Manifold - HF w/ adapter? 80
Intercooler w/ piping 100
BOV 30

ifly87 04-25-2007 04:02 PM

Re: Here is what I intend on. A quick looksy/advice?
 
looks like a solid setup, I wouldnt spend that much on internals tho, vitara's and scat rods u could get for a total of $450

warrenb213 04-25-2007 05:23 PM

Re: Here is what I intend on. A quick looksy/advice?
 
aight well does anyone have any ideas in regards to my question of what kind of power and quarter mile I should be hoping for with that setup?

Cray91 04-25-2007 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by warrenb213
aight well does anyone have any ideas in regards to my question of what kind of power and quarter mile I should be hoping for with that setup?

I wouldn't even worry about that if you are so strapped for cash. Just build yourself a basic 14b kit and get your foot in the door. That is what I would do anyway.

spekter 04-27-2007 01:30 AM

Re: Here is what I intend on. A quick looksy/advice?
 
Dood, most likely you will get this damn car terboed and after like a month of ------- with it you will finnally get it running how you like it. Then you will take it to the track and run a 16.10 and hate life. Or worse, it will puke a transmission or something stupid will happen like a goose runs out on the track and you smash it at 80mph and ---- up the whole front of your car and then skid out of control into the car next to you and.....

Or, you will get it tuned and feel like it is fast as hell, till some punk in a turbo Metro smokes your ass in front of all your friends. Then you will hate life some more.

Don't worry about 0 to 60 or ET's or trap speeds if you ar poor (like almost all of us). Just focus on getting a turbo car running that doesn't leak too much and can safely get to the grocery store and back. Seeing as how your car is actually nice and worth a few bucks, I would concentrate on stability and reliability. If it was a disposable $500 junker, then I would say "go for the gold", but nice cars are easier to screw up than keep nice.

2G6 04-27-2007 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by spekter
nice cars are easier to screw up than keep nice.

OMG SOFAKING TRU :y

blade8r 04-27-2007 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by spekter
but nice cars are easier to screw up than keep nice.


Originally Posted by 2G6
OMG SOFAKING TRU :y

truth be told with much gramatical error.

SunshineSketches 04-27-2007 03:45 AM

Re: Here is what I intend on. A quick looksy/advice?
 
---- a $300 "log" manifold

rock the cx/vx manifold and the 50 dollar bmc race adaptor

i run ^ this setup on my 14b d16y7 and pump 17psi out of the turbo, and its tits:

d16y7
14b turbo stock o2 housing @ 17 psi
eagle rods/srp pistons ~9.5:1 c/r
delta 272 cam
z6 intake manifold

car rips the ---- out of nice dunlop direzza 205/50 15 tires accelerating in second, i'm pretty sure its well into the 13's and near your budget.

TorganFM 04-27-2007 08:01 AM

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Hey, at least he's overbudgetting unstead of under... that means he'll be able to afford the little odds and ends that end up being needed.

warrenb213 04-27-2007 11:04 AM

Re: Here is what I intend on. A quick looksy/advice?
 
Well I'm loving the feed back. Although I really can't see where this entire 16.10 1/4 mi comes in and getting beaten by a turbo'd 3 cylinder metro. Either A that would indicate I'm a terrible driver, or that'd indicate that the setup was completely worthless. I'm really only wanting to pull ahead of those damn Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V's and RSX-S'.

Would I be better off getting pistons that are closer to the stock compression, or would lowering the compression like I have planned pay off when I get to tuning?

SmellySOHC 04-27-2007 11:26 AM

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bmc has adapters for 35$ now!!! hf to t3


Originally Posted by SunshineSketches
rock the cx/vx manifold and the 50 dollar bmc race adaptor


Cray91 04-27-2007 01:15 PM

Re: Here is what I intend on. A quick looksy/advice?
 

Originally Posted by warrenb213
Would I be better off getting pistons that are closer to the stock compression, or would lowering the compression like I have planned pay off when I get to tuning?

You will be fine with stock compression. Just don't bump it up any.

reactone 05-01-2007 07:56 PM

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I don't see any fuel management budgeted for. you'll have to chip that P75, or get a P05/6 P28 equivalent.


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