help me on my build plz?
so im rebuilding my d15b2 and most likely converting to mpfi, gonna boost it on stock internals and then arp studs. i would like to have an idea of wat turbo would be good for my lil motor, i was thinkn the 14b eclipse turbo, or the thunderbird stock turbo, not sure of the numbers? im lookin to get around 170-210 hp,so plz shoot me some suggestions, anything helpful, and i really also need to know wat tune i should go with? im definately workin with a budget here. i know everyone isnt up for the "fmu" but i was thinkin since im only gonna be runing 8 or 9psi then it would be suitable? plz help me out in any way possible. and as for fuel wise? wat will HAVE to upgrade? and wat can i get by with having stock?
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go with a t25 or a t28. fmu's are garbage and are not considered a tune. you will just waste fuel and lose power by exponentially raising fuel pressure with boost. there are many tuning options for honda's. if your going to skimp on something, make sure its not the tune. with low boost there is no major fuel system modification needed. all you need is larger injectors, a 1:1 boost reference fuel pressure regulator and a tune.
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i wanna start boostin at around 2000 to 2500? so i can still cruise the highway and not be in boost all the time , would this still be a good turbo choice? and ill have to convert to obd1 to get chipped =( or is there any chipped options for the 0bd0? i havnt seen any
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both turbos will boost low. go with the t28 so you wont have to upgrade in the future because you know you will. unlike superchargers, turbos do not create boost unless there is an engine load so cruising on the highway will not produce boost. your obd1 ecm will need to be chipped so that it can be reflashed many times over. my friend did it to his 94 accord with hondata and a local tuner did all the tuning.
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alright sounds good man, thank you, and i gotta figure something out about tunning? does anyone know if anything can be done with the obd0 ecu? if its possible to tune it? that would be amazing so i dont have to convert to obd1
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i think chrome and neptune can handle the obd0 ecu.
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where can i get that done at? i mean can i like send them my ecu and they chip it ? or how does that work?
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honestly keep the stock electronics and do an alky setup. A lot less hassle and most likely cheaper. The thing about OBD0 and OBD1 is that you can trick the electronics. Honestly yes a T28 would do well for you and Turbos work off of vacuum so highway cruising you wont be in boost unless you gas it.
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wat do you mean when you say "alky" setup bro?
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Originally Posted by jakethesnake110
(Post 1301728)
i wanna start boostin at around 2000 to 2500? so i can still cruise the highway and not be in boost all the time , would this still be a good turbo choice? and ill have to convert to obd1 to get chipped =( or is there any chipped options for the 0bd0? i havnt seen any
you will not make boost till 3800 ish i had both t25, 14b and t-bird set ups they all make boost around the same time and all make around the same power. so which ever one you can get for cheaper go with :y |
depends on the exhaust a/r size. there should be plenty of options for different a/r sizes. 48 a/r exhaust should do the trick.
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[QUOTE=jakethesnake110;1301763]QUOTE]
what do you mean by alky setup bro? |
alcohol injection. A kit will run you about 400 dollars foir a progressive. It is not that hard to hook up. Google alky injection and it will tell you everything you need to know. Pretty basic really. Easy and inexpensive at that
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ok skimmed thru this maybe said maybe not
what you will need: mpfi set up turbo manifold(stock with mods, std stock w/adaptor plate or egay for cheap) turbo (def t25 t28. ford probe, kkk, a .42/.48 t3 isnt bad) piping(for exhaust and intercooler) intercooler bov (wastegate depending on turbo and mani) 450cc and up injectors oil lines(tapped oil pan) chipped ecu(program/obd of ur/tuner choice) what can stay stock? everything i didnt mention edit: and a clutch might b a good idea if u plan on driving it all above can be had for 800-1200$ depending on quality and how much time u put into finding it look for a talon/lazer/eclipes for most of it boostedwagon has not a clue yes it help but doesnt replace electroics. and rechipping doesnt trick it tells how to handle. and t25 can produce boots as low as 1800rpm and full boost at 2500rpm depending on tune. and turbos work of exhaust gasses(load) so if they are coming out of motor turbo is spinning bov and wg work of vaccum and pressure busa i dont know u but i like u. u know stuff |
^ok well you need to do some studying up there. I did not say fool the computer. Yes he will need a tune but you can fool the sensors (electronics) on OBD1 a lot easier. for what he is trying to do alky injection would be a cheaper route for what he is trying to accomplish. intercoolers make the air cooler and moretdense to keep from detonation which destroys a motor. alky injection does the same thing except without all of the plumbing and cost. You say 1200 dollars when a good progressive alky kit costs about 400 dollars. alky injection also helps with the octane level of the gasoline. Oh wait to keep from detonation. Guess he wont need the injectors either. I would do some reading up on it before you start babbling on to someone that actually knows what there talking about.
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http://alkycontrol.com/
here is a link too |
dude what are you talkin about what other electronics are you talking about? ecu and dizzy are the only real electronics things you have and one is semi mechanical. n if ur talkin map tps 02 type things change ur map and tune it so the rest work correctly not get tricked into sumethign they dont understand.
and yeah i 1200 for the WHOLE set up that is complete(as listed) not just an add on thats really only issuance for safely. that works best with hi psi and hi comp low octain set ups and either way ud still need that to be tuned to. and how can you say "yes he will need a tune..." "i guess he wont need injectors" and then say u know what ur talkin about? with boost u need more flo than 260cc injectors. thats one reason fmu n stock inj. sucks. thanks dont need to read much about it beause ive done/ am doing thanks tho just cause u read something someone else said doesnt mean you know whats really going on. hey how do u feel about co2 sprayers or wiper fluid sprayers both way cheaper than 400 an do the same things. u should change ur name to bandwagon |
a good alky setup is about 400 dollars and no it doesnt have to be for high boost levels. You can turn the nozzle on at any PSI you want. look up a devils own kit. And there you will have it.
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I just finished a turbo setup for my d15b7 with stock internals. I found a t25 for $250 on craigslist, and that came with the manifold, downpipe, injectors, and oil lines. I was doing mine on a budget also, just surf ebay and craigslist and the right parts will spring up.
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Originally Posted by boostwagon
(Post 1301952)
a good alky setup is about 400 dollars and no it doesnt have to be for high boost levels. You can turn the nozzle on at any PSI you want. look up a devils own kit. And there you will have it.
how much is that in one year? |
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