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StockHonda 03-26-2004 07:47 AM

help me come up with a list
 
I've scrolled through the faqs and they helped a lot. However, I'm a bit confused on what part that I need. Say the budget is 2500-3000, and my goal is from low 13 daily. I'm looking for a good custom setup for the JDM H22A all stock internals. Also, I've heard that this is the place where I can get help to places that I can get part for the low low ;)

Thanks everyone.

This is my list, but I know that I am missing a lot

T03/T04E Turbocharger $600
Tial 50mm Blow-Off Valve $220
RC 550cc Saturated $300
Tial 38mm Wastegate 0.5 Bar (7 psi) $230
Walbro 255lph-HP In-Tank $130
DRAG 2.5" Downpipe $200
DRAG Piping Kit $450
DRAG Polished Front Mount Intercooler $450
Hondata s200 $450
Stainless Steel Oil Feed and Return w/ Fittings $120
Bolts, Vacuum line, Fittings, etc. $100

That's about 3000 there :(

Carnesd 03-26-2004 07:54 AM

Re:help me come up with a list
 
You can get most of those parts for alot cheaper is you are willing to give up the name brand, and if your not, you shouldn't be here at HMT. Just buy a kit if your going to spend $3000

StockHonda 03-26-2004 08:31 AM

Re:help me come up with a list
 

Originally Posted by 90zcrex1
You can get most of those parts for alot cheaper is you are willing to give up the name brand, and if your not, you shouldn't be here at HMT. Just buy a kit if your going to spend $3000

Yes, i'm willing to give up the name brand. I'm a noob at turbo stuff that's why those are the only ones I could come up with. :) please help me come up with a list of about the same that's cheaper. Thanks again

projekteg 03-26-2004 09:04 AM

Re:help me come up with a list
 
you're list is pretty much complete, but how does this sound.


t3/t4 = 360 (from down to turbo)
greddy type s bov = 175
dsm 450cc injectors = 75
tial 38mm wategate = 230
fuel pump = 130
custom down pipe = 50 bucks
cca front mount intercoller = 300
hondata = 450
stealth mode oil line kit = 80
misc. (couplings, clamps, vacuum hose, oil pan gasket, etc.) = 100 max.
bmc racing manifold = 175 (i think)
charge piping = 70 max

you could still go a lot cheaper on a lot of things, but it looks like you want the good stuff. for starters, you could use the afc hack ($200) instead of hondata and save 250, you could run your internal wastegate (usually comes with turbo) on the turbo and save another 230, and you could use a 1g dsm bov ($50) and save 150 there. and you don't 'need' the fuel pump, so that's 130 less as well. at least to get you going and boosting, then you can upgrade to the more expensive things as you go, it's a lot easier than buying them all at once.

gran total = 1460







yellowcrx6 03-26-2004 10:54 AM

Re:help me come up with a list
 
what teg said^

get theu stuff u NEED to boost, and u can always upgrade later, but if u have the 1600 or whatever to drop all at once, by all means do it.

StockHonda 03-26-2004 12:32 PM

Re:help me come up with a list
 

Originally Posted by projekteg
you're list is pretty much complete, but how does this sound.


t3/t4 = 360 (from down to turbo) - Where is this place?
greddy type s bov = 175
dsm 450cc injectors = 75
tial 38mm wategate = 230
fuel pump = 130
custom down pipe = 50 bucks
cca front mount intercoller = 300
hondata = 450
stealth mode oil line kit = 80
misc. (couplings, clamps, vacuum hose, oil pan gasket, etc.) = 100 max.
bmc racing manifold = 175 (i think)
charge piping = 70 max

Thanks a lot That list came out to about 2200 not 1460.

Also, i've found out that at johnnyracecar.com has the intercoolers for 240 shipped, should I go with that?


for starters, you could use the afc hack ($200) instead of hondata and save 250
Also, I'll look into going with afc hack instead of hondata since it shave off couple hundreds there. But when I take to a dyno shop to tune it, will they able to make the best out of it? And also will I able to control amount of boost, etc. But I don't want to go over 9lbs for a stock H22 though. I heard that it's not safe.


, and you could use a 1g dsm bov ($50) and save 150 there.
will the 1g DSM BOV handle just as well for a 13 sec car (I might rebuild the engine's internals later one so that it could make it into 12s)?


I really thank you for helping come up with these that'd help shave off more than a grand.

Could you please direct me to where could I get these stuff? I'm willing to do it all at once and I don't plan to make my car the race car, just reasonably fast enough. 12-13, may be 13 for starter:)

Thank you all again,

projekteg 03-26-2004 12:46 PM

Re:help me come up with a list
 

Originally Posted by StockHonda

Originally Posted by projekteg
t3/t4 = 360 (from down to turbo) - Where is this place?
greddy type s bov = 175
dsm 450cc injectors = 75
tial 38mm wategate = 230
fuel pump = 130
custom down pipe = 50 bucks
cca front mount intercoller = 300
hondata = 450
stealth mode oil line kit = 80
misc. (couplings, clamps, vacuum hose, oil pan gasket, etc.) = 100 max.
bmc racing manifold = 175 (i think)
charge piping = 70 max

you could still go a lot cheaper on a lot of things, but it looks like you want the good stuff. for starters, you could use the afc hack ($200) instead of hondata and save 250, you could run your internal wastegate (usually comes with turbo) on the turbo and save another 230, and you could use a 1g dsm bov ($50) and save 150 there. and you don't 'need' the fuel pump, so that's 130 less as well. at least to get you going and boosting, then you can upgrade to the more expensive things as you go, it's a lot easier than buying them all at once.

gran total = 1460

Thanks a lot That list came out to about 2200 not 1460.

not if you subtract the money that i talked about saving in the paragraph ;)

johnny race car i.c.'s are o.k. but the one i was talking about is at www.speedpartsrus.com and are a lot better for a little extra money.

mandrel bends for piping www.jcwhitney.com

turbo http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...&since=-1&rd=1

1g dsm bov www.ebaymotors.com

vafc www.ebaymotors.com

dsm 450cc injectors https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...threadid=17880

turbo manifold https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...threadid=16448

oil lines https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...threadid=15072








dragon 03-26-2004 01:06 PM

Re:help me come up with a list
 
teg pretty much nailed it there. thats basically how much everything would cost for what you need. my setup is around 1300-1400

StockHonda 03-27-2004 04:50 PM

Re:help me come up with a list
 

Originally Posted by projekteg

not if you subtract the money that i talked about saving in the paragraph ;)

johnny race car i.c.'s are o.k. but the one i was talking about is at www.speedpartsrus.com and are a lot better for a little extra money.

mandrel bends for piping www.jcwhitney.com

turbo http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...&since=-1&rd=1

1g dsm bov www.ebaymotors.com

vafc www.ebaymotors.com

dsm 450cc injectors https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...threadid=17880

turbo manifold https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...threadid=16448

oil lines https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...threadid=15072

Thanks teg, as for the mandrel bend, I just need to get the angle parts at that site and have it welded to the straight pipe when I'm actually put those in?


As for the T03/t04e turbo, which one should I choose between Water cooled or oil cooled. What's the diff between the two?

Also, You mentioned about Vafc hack, What does hack mean? Like we have to manually hack into that unit after purchased it?

Also, do you know any other places that I can look for the 1g dsm bov, 450 cc injectors beside ebay?

and about those injectors, are those having honda clips or I have to get something else to get the fitment right?

Also, one last question, what's the the most update book that I can read about turbo application and engine rebuild, etc for the jdm H22a?

Thanks a lot, I really really mean it. :)

Dr.Boost 03-27-2004 05:11 PM

Re:help me come up with a list
 

Originally Posted by StockHonda

Thanks teg, as for the mandrel bend, I just need to get the angle parts at that site and have it welded to the straight pipe when I'm actually put those in?
Corect. You need to do a little welding or have a shop do it. They shouldn't charge you too much

As for the T03/t04e turbo, which one should I choose between Water cooled or oil cooled. What's the diff between the two?I would rather have an oil cooled turbo because it's alot cleaner looking and I don't want a boiling ass turbo heating up my engine.

Also, You mentioned about Vafc hack, What does hack mean? Like we have to manually hack into that unit after purchased it?Read the "Engine Management FAQ". All of this is explained very clear there. The AFC along with the 450cc injectors is called "The hack". It is all wired/installed the same.

Also, do you know any other places that I can look for the 1g dsm bov, 450 cc injectors beside ebay?Check the classified section here. There are always injectors and BOV's for sale. You can get a Bosch one that works just as well.

and about those injectors, are those having honda clips or I have to get something else to get the fitment right?Depending on your car you might need to dremel a little tab inside the injector socket. It takes like 5 seconds. If you are OBD0 you don't need to worry about that or the resistor box.

Also, one last question, what's the the most update book that I can read about turbo application and engine rebuild, etc for the jdm H22a?Maximum boost

Thanks a lot, I really really mean it. :) Your welcome :)

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turboboy 03-27-2004 05:13 PM

Re:help me come up with a list
 
oil cooled is just oil cooled, water cooled has both. the afc hack is just an afc with larger than stock injectors. go to a junkyard or talk to local dsm guys for the bov and 450s, which coms honda clips can be made to fit (just obd0 and obd1?...im obd2 so i never tried, there should be a right-up in the tech section on the mainpage i think) or you can wire in the right clips.

StockHonda 03-27-2004 05:44 PM

Re:help me come up with a list
 
thank you all thank you all very very muchhhhhhh.

Gosh, Good and helpful replies within a blink of an eye.

Now I feel like I'm a lot smarter than I was 1 week ago, (I mean compared ONLY TO THE PAST ME :) )

Thanks a lot.

StockHonda 04-16-2004 07:37 AM

Re:help me come up with a list
 
One more question, wil that setup run fine with the stock internals or will I have to do anything else to the internals. I'm looking to somewhere about 280whp.

thanks

CivicComingSoon 04-16-2004 09:47 AM

Re:help me come up with a list
 
im not to sure about the H-Series engines, ill check it out for ya and post l8er

update: ok i looked around and i noticed your compression ratio is 10:0:1 190hp 158 tw. ok, personnaly id run 8 lbs of boost because of the high ratio. on the internals subject, i dont think yours is the one where ya haft to resleeve it. so definately in the future some rods and pistons, aroun 8:5:1 or 9:0:1 ratio. im guessing at 7-8 boost you should see somethen around 240hp. [not sure] im researching these engines as well =P


and yes hmt is probably the best forum i have ever seen. h-t lovers, go ---- a duck, you dont get told to search whenever you ask anything O_-

mahcivic 04-16-2004 10:08 AM

Re:help me come up with a list
 
BUY MY KIT. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6763
all youll need to complete it is injectors, fuel pump (which you can get of ebay for 90), oil line kit and your managment and exhaust.

check out the auction.. and give me an offer if your interested

StockHonda 04-16-2004 10:40 PM

Re:help me come up with a list
 

Originally Posted by CivicComingSoon
im not to sure about the H-Series engines, ill check it out for ya and post l8er

update: ok i looked around and i noticed your compression ratio is 10:0:1 190hp 158 tw. ok, personnaly id run 8 lbs of boost because of the high ratio. on the internals subject, i dont think yours is the one where ya haft to resleeve it. so definately in the future some rods and pistons, aroun 8:5:1 or 9:0:1 ratio. im guessing at 7-8 boost you should see somethen around 240hp. [not sure] im researching these engines as well =P


and yes hmt is probably the best forum i have ever seen. h-t lovers, go ---- a duck, you dont get told to search whenever you ask anything O_-

Thanks, but I think that spec you gave is for the USDM version which is H22A1. I don't have the JDM H22A yet, but I'll be getting the JDM one. I think it's the only closed deck version.

H22A JDM Prelude 92-96

2157cc (DOHC VTEC)
Horsepower: 200hp@6800rpm
Torque: 161lbs-ft@5500rpm
Compression: 10.6:1
Bore: 87mm
Stroke: 90.7mm
OBD: 1
Redline: 8200rpm

I think someone once told me that with a stock internals, it could take to 260 Whp or more without any problem. But then again, I need info of someone with experience of this block.

Mahcivic, Thanks for your offer, however, it's not really what I'm looking for. Plus, I'm not doing it anysoon. I tried to gather as much as info as I can and do it all at once :) Thanks again.

yellowcrx6 04-17-2004 12:18 AM

Re:help me come up with a list
 
i think this thread needs to be linked to every stupid noob that makes stupid posts. he came in with an idea in mind, asked legit questions... and got what he wanted from it. thanked everyone, and everyone gave him good answers.

its alot more peaceful then that crazy GD section... "lock" lol

LSD Motorsports 04-17-2004 12:32 AM

Re:help me come up with a list
 

Originally Posted by projekteg
you're list is pretty much complete, but how does this sound.


t3/t4 = 360 (from down to turbo)
greddy type s bov = 175
dsm 450cc injectors = 75
tial 38mm wategate = 230
fuel pump = 130
custom down pipe = 50 bucks
cca front mount intercoller = 300
hondata = 450
stealth mode oil line kit = 80
misc. (couplings, clamps, vacuum hose, oil pan gasket, etc.) = 100 max.
bmc racing manifold = 175 (i think)
charge piping = 70 max

you could still go a lot cheaper on a lot of things, but it looks like you want the good stuff. for starters, you could use the afc hack ($200) instead of hondata and save 250, you could run your internal wastegate (usually comes with turbo) on the turbo and save another 230, and you could use a 1g dsm bov ($50) and save 150 there. and you don't 'need' the fuel pump, so that's 130 less as well. at least to get you going and boosting, then you can upgrade to the more expensive things as you go, it's a lot easier than buying them all at once.

gran total = 1460







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