Help Identify New Turbo
 

Well, as my turbo kit comes together ive come across a few good deals. I have a set of 450 dsm injectors, a sidemount dsm i/c and a dsm bov valve. I got that all for 20 bucks.

Reciently i bought this turbo for 30 dollars. It needs a rebuild, and I dont know exactly what kind of turbo it is.

The guy i bought it from said its a t25 from a saab 9000t, but i thought those turbos were either t3's or t2's. Anyways heres the pics.
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle.../aap.sized.jpg
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle.../aaq.sized.jpg
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle.../aar.sized.jpg
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle.../aas.sized.jpg
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle...xsk8er/aat.jpg

Theres a number plate on the center section, and if those numbers tell me anything ill post them up. If measurements of the inlet/outlet are needed ask and ill post them. The a/r on the exhuast side is .49 and on the compressor is .48. Ive heard that this turbo will be slightly to small for my d16a1. Is there any way to install a larger compresser on these turbos? I know its possible for the t3... hell it might even be a t3. Anyways thanks alot for any help!



Sean

Re:Help Identify New Turbo
 

sell that pos
2 small for anything

Re:Help Identify New Turbo
 

I'd sell it just cause I don't like the looks of that flange :-X

So yeah if you could get a refund, I would do it, for less than the money you spent on that and a rebuild you could get a nice condition t3

Re:Help Identify New Turbo
 

well rebuild kits are cheap and i can weld so...

i just need to know what kinda turbo it is.

besides if i buy a nice condition t3 for 100 bucks, its not rebuilt. id rather have a rebuilt turbo thatll last forever than a turbo that will only last me 30,000 miles



Sean

Re:Help Identify New Turbo
 

you seriously think that you'll keep that turbo on your car for more than 30,000 miles. get the ---- out of here. i bet you don't keep that one on there 10,000.

besides, you'll probly blow you engine before you get to 30,000.

Re:Help Identify New Turbo
 

chill man, i asked a question and didnt get a responce other than "get a refund" or "sell it"

I didnt even say i was going to keep it for 30,000 miles. I just said that id rather have it rebuilt to last longer that way when i do decide to upgrade ill have a rebuilt turbo with low miles and maybe can get something decient out of it.

Maybe i shouldnt post, because i dont have 1000 + posts so i dont know what im talking about. ::)

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no, that's not what you should do. but get a turbo that you'll be satisfied with from the get go. if you rebuild that, no one will pay a good amount of money for it if they know about turbos

bottom line. its too small for any application. maybe a lawnmower can use it

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ok, so since its so small can i put a larger compressor houseing on it?

Anyways, I still dont know what kind of turbo it is.

I know its small, but i do have a gsxr-750. So if nothing else itll go on that.

What kind of turbo do you think i should have? I was thinking something more like a 14b, on another forum a fellow has the same motor as me and a t25 from a 2g dsm than he swapped to a 14b and said it lags like hell compared.

How does this turbo compare to the dsm t25?

Thanks for any help

Sean

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bah use the turbo than. You wanted help, i may not have givin the help you initially wanted, but I thought it would have been in your best interest to actually get a decent turbo. Do what you please, it's your money. Since you throwin' it away you might as well gimme those injectors. ;)

And good job bringing up post count, expecially since no one mentioned anything about it or even called you a n00b ::)

Now I'll call you a n00b, good job for n00bing yourself n00b ::)

Re:Help Identify New Turbo
 

Eh, i suppose i got overboard. Sorr im used to honda-tech and getting my ass flamed off. :o


Anyways yeah, i know its small or whatever. Im not really looking for super high numbers. 150-180 hp for now is ok. I dont want to break things on the first time around, So id rather expirement with a smaller turbo and get a good idea of things than go balls to the wall and get the biggest baddest setup and blow sshit up.

Re:Help Identify New Turbo
 

thats no excuse. that turbo might be in your range for that kinda horsepower but ud probably be maxxin that little ---- out. i would say get a 14b or a t25.

Re:Help Identify New Turbo
 

so its not a t25? what is it than?




Sean

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Refund or sell it. Good luck, no ones gonna buy a turbo that is missing mounting ears.

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can somebody tell him what kind of turbo that is!!! For me i think its a T2 actually i have no idea haha it looks small though but i'm going to be using an IHI so i have no complaints.

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IT a t3 is but the flange has 2 bolt holes hacked off.

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damn its small. smaller than my ----

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It is a t25.I have one just like it in my garage.It will be ok for a d series just dont expect too much hp out of it.

Re:Help Identify New Turbo
 

Yeah, so is that 100% t25, because im hearing t3 now..... Im not expecting alot of hp, just something to get it down the road a lil quicker. But in any case im buying a rebuild kit asap and need to know 100% Is there any verifaction number or serial number or anything that can help me determine? Thanks!




Sean

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http://www.mjmturbos.com/images/SAAB.jpg

Definatly a saab t3, however it looks like your turbo is fucked up. Where are the other 2 mounting holes for the exhaust housing inlet? did they break off or were they cut off?

It's going to spool really fast on a d16a1, you'd probably peak out at 190whp at 12-13psi.

Re:Help Identify New Turbo
 

sorry Jeff but your wrong! ;)


That turbo is not a t3.I took mine to the Saab dealer for verification couse I bought mine from E-gay under the heading t3.It is in fact a t25.Saab changed to a t25 in 1990 after research comcluded that a t3 lagged too much and the t25 was more efficient for their engine.

Check out this link.I found it in my search to identify my trubo back when i bought it befor I went to the dealerhttp://erikssonindustries.com/TurboChargers.htm

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You want to get technical? Saabs uses T25 center sections and compressors in later years, But the exhaust housing is still a t3 formation. So call it whatcha want, but the flange inlet is still a t3 style. I'll give you an example, look at DSM turbos, Both share the same exhaust housing (designed by mitsu) but in the later on years 2g dsm the Garrett T25 center section was added. If it was a true t25 if would have the oddball style inlet flange.

Reguardless of what it is, the ------- thing is hagered like hell, Wtf happened to the inlet bolts, looks like a beaver chewed them off hah ;)

Jeff

Re:Help Identify New Turbo
 

OH man, now im confused. So its got a t25 center carterage and compressor, with t3 exhuast houseings, does that mean i have to buy a t25 rebuid kit, or do i have to get the t3 kit or are both kits the same???

Anyways, yeah its haggered but it wasnt like i payed an arm and a leg for it, i was more helpin out a buddy than worried about getting the best deal.

besides i can weld, and i have acess to any kind of welding macheine needed so im gonna weld it up wont take but 5 minutes.

Thanks for the help 8)!!

Re:Help Identify New Turbo
 

contact www.mjmturbos.com in that picture (shown above) that I posted it looks identicle to the turbo you have minus the 2 inlet flange bolts. Ask them, they should have rebuild kits or know where to get them for your turbo.

Jeff

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no it's a t25 with a t3 bolt pattern.
like the mitsubishi te-05 they switched to at one point which has the t3 bolt pattern.

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ok boss man,the turbine inlet is "t3" style but its phisycally smaller than a t3 ???.Ill call it what the manufacturer calls it wich is a t25.Ill post up some picts and show you the difference between a t3 flange and the one on this little guy....I wouldnt want to be talking out of my ass ::)

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OK, so basically its a t25 turbo but instead of makeing a whole new turbo they went with the t3 flange to keep things simple, im guessing anyways. So can i upgrade to a t3 turbo if i decide to build a manifold? If not ill just use the adapter plate that was with it and a std or hf manifold.



Anyways, ill call or email www.mjmturbos.com and hopefully thell have some more information for me.


Thanks for the help ;D


Sean

Re:Help Identify New Turbo
 

Sean,like I said before I have that same turbo and a manifold with a t3 flange.The flange on the turbo is a smaller version of a t3 flange so it wont work.Your best bet is to go with an adapter like you said.

Good luck.