h23 junkyard turbo?
 

My buddy wants to do a junkyard turbo on his 93 Prelude. What parts can I use to do a junkyard set up?
Will dsm injectors still work in the car?

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yup. i think a manifold is gonna be your hardest part...

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Eclude y0. Or Evolude. Or PrEclipse. Whatever. A manifold will be easy as hell. H23 + F22 + 4g63 = the same exhaust port size and location. Minor mods will have to be done to get the studs to fit.

For true junkyard, gank a 2gDSM manifold, DSM 450 injectors and, of course, the turbo. Any wastegate will do, and you can weld a DSM BOV to your cold pipe. Run Uberdata/Hack/FPR (best to worst) for fuel. You won't need a resistor box (preludes are peak and hold), but a Walbro fuel pump is pretty much needed for fuel option 1 and 2. For the FMU, get an in-line booster. Grab any I/C you can, or nab a cheesy one from Custom Coach or Jhonny Racecar. JC whitney for the piping (or go true-ghetto home depot style). Muffler shop makes you a downpipe and you're done! If you went with the FMU, you need to buy a missing link/fish valves.

I'm doing it "high-budget" HMT style, so I nabbed an EVO t3 upgrade manifold from slowboyracing in order to accomodate my .60/.63. Tial wastegate, Greddy BOV, and PWR FMIC rounds out my upgrades to the "super-junkyard" setup.

Re:h23 junkyard turbo?
 

check out the large ass accord dsm thread in this forum, should provide you with the info you need to know. Yes the H23 or F22a1 heads match up to the DSM manifolds, minor drilling required.

I wouldn't run an H23 anyways, those motors can't handle the boost, consider swapping in a F22a1 or build up a F22a1 with H23 head for some real fun ;)

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hmm someone on preludeonline.com tried this setup and said it PHYSICALLY WOULD NOT FIT.. the 14b hits the transmission, and filpped around, hits the AC.. I wonder if anyone has actually done this on here, or just saying "oh yea so and so did it and it will work.."

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4g63 and the h23 can used the same manifold ? that mean if i buy a eclipse aftermarket manifold then it would fit into the h23 ? the bored of the f22 and h23 arent the same are they ?

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well you have to reshape a couple of the holes on the manifold.. but besides that yea.. but if the turbo doesnt fit then what good will it do!!! lol..

I dont see how this setup could work on an F22, but not fit an H23, I'm sure the dimensions of the block/transmission are the same, or VERY close right?

how would I get the wastegate to open at 5 psi? bend/shorten the actuator rod?

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i'm sure if someone said it they couldn't get it to fit without hitting the block, all you would prolly have to do is maybe grind out some of the webbing on the block.

it depends on what it's set at now. if it's higher than 5 psi and you're trying to lower boost, you need to lengthen the arm, if it's lower (which i doubt) and you're trying to raise boost, then you bend it to make it shorter.

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H23 head fits on an F22A1? Is it that easy or is there some rediculous long process of making it fit?

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why would u recommend a f22a1 over a h23? thats a down grade unless theres something im unaware of. if anything id throw a f22b dohc in there and boost that bitch, since the compression is about 9.2 instead of the 9.8 of the h23.

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this guys a complete jackass cc and johnny racecar make some damn good intercoolers...why the ---- would u say that...btw have fun blowing up ur little h series motor

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whats your ass? if you dont have anything to add, go away..

ok he said there is no way he could shave off enough to allow it to fit.. its about an inch away from fitting.. thats alot. this sucks, noone knows anything yet this has SUPPOSEDLY been done multiple times..

kinda funny..

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Read some ---- before you post so you dont look like a jackass(too late) read the acclipse thread, then come back with some more intelligent questions... k thx

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yea ive read the whole thread, k thanks.

what questions are you talking about? have you attempted to install the 14b/dsm manny setup on an h23? if not then SHUT THE ---- UP.

it seems there is no way its going to install without removing the AC and flipping it around..

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garn, shut the ---- up. it's obvious that none of us have personally attempted this set up (mostly being b/c we don't have grocery getter accords). read the acclipse thread k, i know many people have done it and you saying that 'someone' said it can't be done is the firstj i've heard of clearance issues, so i would say a lot of people saying it can and has been done outweighs one person saying it can't be done.

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i have seen another pic as well, but there is a thread on preludeonline.com right now that is goin on, and me and this other member are both trying this setup.. he physically has it on his car and has attempted to get it to fit and it wont lol, i didnt just "hear" of this..

I dont understand, I mean the install isnt that complicated or anything so i dont see how it could possily vary or have error..

why bashing accords? I don't have one but whats the difference in superiority of an econo box civic compared to a grocery getter accord?

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to answer your question is weight, thats why its superior. and dont you know ppl that arent on hmt dont know ---- ;)

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power to weight.

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please i was refering to that jack ass making fun of those intercoolers... u cant get better then that for the price
.. btw.. so no u can shut the ---- up.. i personally can care less about these whole trend... just buy the right ----.. and stop trying to ------ rig ---- on there..

anyways.. can u say by by sleeves

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racial slurs?

BAN.

what the hell are you doing on HMT then? I mean, one of the main purposes of piecing together your own kit is price..

anyways, back on topic..

The sleeves in H23's are fine.. It would be the cast pistons to go first.. the ringlands are usually the first to go. I don't think I have read about even an H22(with their shitty sleeves) cracking/etc, always bearings or ringlands..

anyone know of anyone who has this setup on their h23 or a way to contact them?

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you obviously dont know how hmt is...

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lol 6 posts and already running ur mouth
i would watch what u say..btw ur full of ---- if u think u can boost anything over 8lb and be fine i bet u money u crack a sleeve way before u brake any ringlands.. (if its tuned right) as for the cast pistons going first.. ur wrong again.. cause all honda motors come with cast pistons.. i have two boosted cars and i have blown up a lot of the motors in them never have i fucked up a piston just broken rods

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haha listen to this guy like he's some bigshot..

I'll say whatever I want that I feel is within reason. Your just like every other nerdass on most forums, always referring to post count as if it represents knowledge ::)

First, learn to spell. Second, don't try and tell me about a car that you don't even own, and I do. I plan on 5-6 psi, and no, ringlands ARE the first to go on h22's and h23's.. I don't care if your other engines did this or that, they arent the same.

Since you will still wanna argue or call BS like most would, here you go..

This is a list from preludeonline.com

HAS BLOWN A MOTOR
1. schwett 6psi, jrsc, jr ems/fmu, toasted lands on all 4 pistons
2. spinNlude 6psi, jrsc, put a piston through the head
3. geramy 6psi, jrsc, blew rings (lands?) (previous owner ran NOS)
4. kaos_prelude_sh 6psi, jrsc, blew ring lands on one piston
5. tmontana 6psi, jrsc, ? (had to smoke a supra, too much timing?)
6. c-redrum 6psi, jrsc, jr ems/fmu, bearing and ring lands.
7. 99Prelude_LC 6psi, jrsc
8. LJR-lude01 6psi, jrsc
9. achemze 10psi, turbo, "bad a/f ratio"
10. quaalude 8psi, turbo, 5 bent exh valves (exacerbated by earlier mis-shift)
11. Turbo Lude SH6psi, turbo, fmu, vfac, blew ring lands on #4
12. silverludesi 7/10psi, turbo, hondata, blew ring lands on #1
13. 00g ?psi, turbo, ?
14. clendaniel 10psi, turbo, ring lands (twice)
15. Blaast 7-9psi, turbo, 8:1 FMU + 550's, 15psi boost spike waves bye-bye to all 4 pistons
16. bradboy 9psi, turbo, ring lands on 3 pistons (jdm h22)
17. kidkutz ?psi, turbo, one ring land
18. trboh22 12psi, turbo, DFI (bad engine buildup)
19. quiklude 8psi, turbo, ringl ands on 2 pistons
20. superlude01 10psi, turbo, ringlands
21. lude4life ?psi, greddy turbo, disconnected wastegate / boost spike
22. y_b_lamron 6psi, turbo, blew a ringland
23. ludespeed2000 ?psi, turbo, ?

I didn't see any problems with bent rods, did you?

NOW, lets get this thread back on topic, if thats ok with you, and quit dragging ---- out and trying to argue about every damn thing.

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seriously, i have no personal experience with the set up as i have never owned (nor care to) an h or f, however if anyone has any real knowledge to shed on the subject, please do. other than that, if this cryin/bitchin keeps up, i'm gonna lock this ----, if you don't have anything knowlegeable information or a legit question about the subject at hand, just don't reply to the thread.

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...Make your own manifold ::)
That's what I always do...they all look like ----, but they work. ;D

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I might just drop the whole thing.. H series motors suck for boost and I'm a college student, cant afford for anything to go seriously wrong right now..

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Garn go back to your gay ass prelude or asscord forum. Talking ---- with 9 post? Great way to introduce yourself hear on HMT.

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:D You can't read and you can't write in English. Now your probably gonna get the thread locked.

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Good I hope I do get this locked. This thread has gone downhill since your first post.
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...n/9fefb8f8.jpg

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Yeah the H23 going in my EF is going to be HMT DSM style.