Garrett T3 60-1 (T04S) .48 A/R
 

Hey Guys,

I tried to search on this forum but nothing came up. Perhaps the search function is not working too well. Anyway, I would like to see if anyone in here with some dyno graphs of your Honda motor with the Garrett T3 60-1 T04S with .48 A/R would be greatly appreciated. I am trying to use two on my 4.7 Liter. I am looking for great lower end with rwhp range at around 450-500 rwhp each turbo. My motor can handle mega boost so its not an issue at all. The turbos below are just for mock up. They are dead Nissan turbos.
https://lextreme.com/SC470TT/IMG_0455.JPG
https://lextreme.com/SC470TT/IMG_0456.JPG
https://lextreme.com/SC470TT/IMG_0448.JPG

Re: Garrett T3 60-1 .48A/R
 

um idk what the 1.6 or 1.8 dynos will tell you about your 4.7 L. you need to do it your self and post up for us to see


ps. i dont have a dyno for that sry

Re: Garrett T3 60-1 (T04S) .48 A/R
 

ok what 4.7l are you using that can handle mega boost, i would jusst run one massive ballbearing turbo, gt42 or something of that size.

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GT42R is physically too big to the give space and I have seen the dyno. I want lower end with 7k redline.

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500 WHP per turbo?

Yes, it has to be the 60-1 and turbine wise, 0.48 a/r is good but I would use T4 wheels.

other than that, it could be a pair of GT 3582R ballbearing.
or... for a faster spool up, i can make an interresting hybrid: GT3082R (turbine side of the gt30R, compressor side of the gt35R)

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Thanks for replying my post. Ballbearing is just too expensive. I have seen GT35R and the T3 60-1 T04S with .63 AR dyno on a MR2. They both have very similar spooling characteristic and power potential. The GT35 have more air at higher RPM like 8-9k. However, my car would not see that level of redline. At the same time the 60-1 is half of the price.

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I definitly think the t3/t4s 60-1 is the right choice for you, but i also think you should go with a .63 a/r on the turbine rather than .48 a/r because a .63 turbine will spool much faster on your motor than on a little 1.8 or 2.0 motor, you have 2.35 liters of displacment to spool each turbo, which will be more than enough to hit full boost quick with a .63 a/r, i just dont think the .48 a/r turbine will do you justice in the top end....oh and let blaast build you that set of turbos, they will be high quality reliable units, 2 of them for the price of one ball bearing unit :y

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Blaast,

Thank you for your offer. I already have one turbo and working on the second one. Here is my lower end short block:

Block: Tundra 2UZFE 4.7 Iron block
Crank: 1uzfe crank
Main: 4 bolt main from 1uzfe VVTi conversion
Rods: Eagle ESP 3D H Beam with L19 ARP bolts
Pistons: Custom Ross forged 8.5:1 Compression
Pins: Heavy duty Ross pins
Rings: Total Seal heavy duty custom rings
Bolts/Studs: ARP 11 mm main bolts (4 per main)
Head Studs: 7/16" ARP studs

Here are some pictures of my 4.7 Iron block
https://lextreme.com/SC470TT/Copy%20...reme%20001.jpg
https://lextreme.com/SC470TT/Copy%20...reme%20003.jpg
https://lextreme.com/SC470TT/Copy%20...reme%20011.jpg


I am not looking for redline for full boost. This will be most likely street and strip application

Re: Garrett T3 60-1 (T04S) .48 A/R
 

Your turbos look to hang a bit low for a decent angled return. It may be the picture though.

Re: Garrett T3 60-1 (T04S) .48 A/R
 

Actually,

I have some newer pictures. The turbos are sitting about 3" higher than those pictures.

Re: Garrett T3 60-1 (T04S) .48 A/R
 

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Yeah I think we tend to under estimate the lower a/r'S.

Yes, it's well known that a stage 1 0.48 a/r is not good for that much power... around 250-270 HP max but what happens if you use a bigger wheel such as stage 3 or enven T4 for example?

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Blaast,

Since you have lots of experience with turbos you would know more then me. I already have a Garrett T3 60-1 (T04S) .48 A/R so I am saving money for another one. My motor can handle around 1,500 bhp or more depending on the stand alone I will be using. However, I am not looking for that much. I just want to max out my turbo and I will be very happy. If I can sqeeze around 450 to 500 rwhp from each turbo then my goal is achieved. However, this is not a full time race car. It will be mostly street terror machine. So lower end and quick spool is very important to me. I will most likely going to use Chevy auto transmission so lower end is very important.

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Well here's the compressor map (page) for a t58 aka ts04:

http://turboneticsinc.com/cm_t58.htm

Based on some very rough math (based on lb/min of an LS motor), I'd assume that you'd get 14psi around 4-4500, assuming the intake/heads flow very well. My math basicly allows for ~33lb/min at 7k. For 2.35L (twins on a 4.7L) you'd have compressor surge before 22lb/min if you ran 14psi, which is be widest eff. range for that turbo. 22lb/min is around 4700rpm, and my wild guess would be 700whp. Not good math, but enough to think about.

My best suggestion would be to ask on some mustang forum. There should be some twin setups there, and the motors have similar displacement as you. Regardless, I'd have to say those turbos would be too big.

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Just remember that the major problem in compairing most Honda engines against most Toyota's (Especially in the case of his 2uzfe/1uz-fe hybrid) is that the Toyota will make several times the power ouput in the lower rpm-band & because of it. Will have much greater exhaust flow earlier.

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nice setup yout got there

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from a reliablility standpoint, you don'T want to MAX OUT a turbo.
the 60-1 compressor is able of 450 WHP with good efficiency. 500 WHP will be maxing it out IMO.

Turbine wise, if you got stage 3 turbines, 0.48 a/r are worth a try. Not sure how much HP they will flow. Swapping to 0.63 a/r later on is a quick and easy fix anyway.

Re: Garrett T3 60-1 (T04S) .48 A/R
 

Yes the turbo is Stage III. I will try it with smaller AR and move up as needed. With .63 AR i have seen over 550 whp in a 2.0 liter. So the T04S 60-1 is capable of achieving it. I am not sure about the .48 AR. That is why I am seeking dynos on the .48 in any 1.6 to 2.0 engines.