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Free ECU Modification Programs!
OK, I've learned a lot from this board about turbo and fuel management, and in creating my own kit (which should be running a month or so) I want to have a chance to know about what's out there, and pick what I want..
Well, seems everyone has these little programs, GhettoDyne, and EcuControl that are out there that I didn't know about!!! So far, we have.. GhettoDyne: http://www.ghettodyne.com EcuControl: http://www.ecucontrol.com Anything else out there worth looking into? |
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Has anyone actually created one of those MegaSquirt boxes? Seems if someone is *that* good with eletronics, car modification isn't the correct field for them. :o
How well does it work? Oh, I've already ordered my EcuControl RS232 adapter.. I'm going to try that out on a spare PM6 I have laying about. Seems like it'd be pretty nice along-side GhettoDyne. ..except that a few of the measurements are not in US standard. :P -------- Scratch that.. I just checked the page and it was updated TODAY!! New version out with MPH!! Hahaha.. ;D |
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I like the look of that ecucontrol, I think I might try that one.
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The author of GhettoDyne signed up an account here and is posting about GhettoDyne and EcuControl working together in up and coming versions!
Keep on the look out! I'm getting my things ordered and setup for testing as we speak.. |
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WOW... never heard of Ghettodyne or anything else... Would anyhting work on a P06 obd1 ECU ?
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I haven't found anything for P06.. I've actualyl got a P06 that I bought to "Hondata", but I'm going to fry my PM6 first. ;D
The Ghettodyne and EcuControl revolution is upon this board!! Muahahaha.. No one that I know around Kansas City even has this setup, I'm VERY interested in being the first. Not to mention showing up all the Hondata kids. No one around here supports Zdhyne. And just because all the rich kids with thier pokie GSR swapped EKs posting 16 second times think that Hondata is better, I'm more than ready to "hack the Gibson" with GhettoDyne, and EcuControl! |
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so ecucontrol supports boost???
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so ecucontrol supports boost??? and larger injectors??
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no ghettodyne doesnt either i think xtensive is trying to figure out the hex values or something for positive boost. i have been learning some of the stuff and im still in a cloud of smoke..
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and theinjectors at least?
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There was an update on this page..
CHECK IT OUT!!! http://www.ghettodyne.com Look at the screen shot and the features for v2.0!!! HOLY CRIPES!!!! This is going to be AWESOME! I've already got my RS232 for EcuControl, and the 28 pin socket and 11 EEPROMs (Stupid place made me make a $35 minimum order). Soo.. All I need to do now is buck up and buy the EEPROM programmer. The place that makes Hondata's programmer is actually based out of a city that's VERY close to me. Lawrence KS!! I'm in Kansas City. I called and asked them about thier relationship with Hondata, and they told me everything I need to burn the ROMs. He's a nice guy. No store front though, so I can't just pop into thier shop and talk to them.. Damned Internet companies.. : :P |
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thats gona kick ass. hopefully it works
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As soon as Dave Blundell finally sends my ECU, I'm going to be writing a Logger program for the Macintosh...
since the only laptop I have with a working battery is a Powerbook ;-D So if you're a mac geek, it'll be cool. -H |
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What is required to have GhettoDyne? It seems as though most of the site is down or being worked on. If I could get GhettoDyne in my 90 Si, I would save a thousand bucks from buying Zdyne. I would already have Zdyne (silver), but they don't SELL THE SILVER ANYMORE! That made me upset.
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Download the program.. Everything is in the README file.
Basically: - 90 - 91 PM6 - The program (Free from the website) - 28 pin socket EEPROM socket (Got mine at www.digikey.com for $6.50, part number: A347-ND) - Some EEPROMs (Which I got from American Semiconductor Right here.. http://store.yahoo.com/americanmicro...c256-25dc.html for $3.29 each.. though they have a minimum $35 order.. i ordered 11 >:( ) - And an EEPROM programmer (which I ordered from http://www.xtronics.com/memory/EPROM.htm for $150 Note: This is the EXACT same programmer Hondata uses. So, if you have a buddy with a Stage 4 Hondata kit, he has this and can burn ROMs for you. ;D) Optional: - RS232 connection for use with EcuControl Datalogging software (www.ecucontrol.com) (from here http://www.compsys1.com/workbench/On...3_adapter.html for $23 shipped) Hope that helps you out.. ;D ;D ;D |
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I have a megasquirt. It was relly easy to build and I had never done a board before.
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Hey
I just picked up a ECU from a 88 CRX at the yunkyard. It's from a Euro 88' CRX. It's a PM7, but it's the same as the Aerodeck Accord ECU that is shown at : http://pgmfi.crx-forum.org/resources...ification.html on the side it says : 37820-PM7-B020 And it looks exactly the same as the Accord's and it has no CN2 but a CN3. Hey Mike can this one be used for ghettodyne? |
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That looks amazing! I would be the first in line to mod my obd1 computer when it can happen. I find it odd that nobody has hacked the box and done this yet. The chevy guys have been into computer mods for a long time now and it is the same sort of setup. I was going to do it in my 91 camaro but I sold it.
It is going to be a sweet setup and it even looks like they took into account the 450cc injector upgrade. |
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Sad news on my ECU modification..
My ECU seems to be that of an 88 CRX.. Interesting because I asked for a 91 Civic Si when I bought it form the parts place. I didn't know the difference until I started getting into this modification, or that there even WAS a difference. Oh well.. Now I have to obtain a 90 or 91 ECU.. Cheapest I can find is $100. :-\ Not sure if it's worth it when I have my P06 on the way.. Maybe I can convince the guys to write a datalogging ROM for the P06.. Who knows.. |
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FYI, the difference between the 88-89 and 90-91 ECU is an external PROM chip. The 90-91 program is a bit bigger and it wouldn't fit on the internal microcontroller used in the 88-89 ECU's so Honda added an external PROM chip to house the program, and left the microcontroller to simply execute the code. Bonus for us. We are working on a way to utilize the 88-89 ECU's as well but aren't quite there yet. We can chip them, but it requires additional hardware that makes it very cost-ineffectve. Eventually you will be able to use 88-91 ECU's so don't throw them out! Dave, the curator of PGMFI.crx-forum.org is busy re-writing the op codes that we need to do this.
Boost is currently working but still has a few bugs, such as jerking when going into or out of boost with light or part throttle. The fuel/ignition routine for boost seems to be working splendidly tho, just a transitional issue I believe. Stay tuned... Mike |
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Originally Posted by xtensive
FYI, the difference between the 88-89 and 90-91 ECU is an external PROM chip. The 90-91 program is a bit bigger and it wouldn't fit on the internal microcontroller used in the 88-89 ECU's so Honda added an external PROM chip to house the program, and left the microcontroller to simply execute the code. Bonus for us. We are working on a way to utilize the 88-89 ECU's as well but aren't quite there yet. We can chip them, but it requires additional hardware that makes it very cost-ineffectve. Eventually you will be able to use 88-91 ECU's so don't throw them out! Dave, the curator of PGMFI.crx-forum.org is busy re-writing the op codes that we need to do this.
Boost is currently working but still has a few bugs, such as jerking when going into or out of boost with light or part throttle. The fuel/ignition routine for boost seems to be working splendidly tho, just a transitional issue I believe. Stay tuned... Mike |
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where and how do you get this chip ? Like I can prolly get the chip from my local electronics store but where can I program it and lie that stuff. They have a prgorammer but what do they do to it?
THX or do i not need one? |
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89 CRX:
I already posted on where you get all the parts. Even prices.. |
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I am starving hearing what you guys are talking about... No ones know if I can do something with my P06 ( I did had it chipped already ... addes 28 pins socket, a Eeprom, few resistor and capacitor and another chip ) but I had to remove the Eeprom to have it rechipped, nothing like ghettodyne usin a laptop.....
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No ones know if I can do something with my P06 ( I did had it chipped already ... addes 28 pins socket, a Eeprom, few resistor and capacitor and another chip ) but I had to remove the Eeprom to have it rechipped, nothing like ghettodyne usin a laptop..... [/quote] The reason the P06 hasn't been used with Ghettodyne, I think, is that the values for the fuel, ignition and so on are in totally different memory spaces than that of a P06. The file that you open in Ghettodyne is an image of the memory stored in the EEPROM. Ghettodyne takes this image, and pulls the values it needs, and puts them in a readable format to you. When you make changes to the values, it then saves them back in the format EEPROM needs to function. Then the file is burned back to the EEPROM, and it's "none the wiser". Maybe one day he will adapt his program to identify the P06 ROM image, and have Ghettodyne mod it. I hope so.. I have a P06 I want to get installed.. but then again, if I already have complete control over my PM6, why install the P06? Hrm.. |
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can this be used on B series motors? what about the vtec engagement?
I have a 94 GSR with a 1st gen B16 in it and it would be nice to have a cheaper system than hondata when I put my turbo on! |
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So far.. I have only seen SOHC ECUs.. P28 being the OBD1 ECU that seems to be the "best".
I'm not sure if you can use a P28 to control a DOHC. Since cam timing is mechanical, and the difference would be fuel, which you can mod, then I would "assume" you could use the P28 to control it. Would just have to mod the fuel and ignition maps. |
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Originally Posted by TurboEF9
So far.. I have only seen SOHC ECUs.. P28 being the OBD1 ECU that seems to be the "best".
I'm not sure if you can use a P28 to control a DOHC. Since cam timing is mechanical, and the difference would be fuel, which you can mod, then I would "assume" you could use the P28 to control it. Would just have to mod the fuel and ignition maps. |
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im going way out into left field with this one. but hear me out.
could u convert to OBD0 and run a PM6 on an integra provided the ECU has the igniton and fuel maps from the stock rom? |
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Originally Posted by shortyz
could u convert to OBD0 and run a PM6 on an integra provided the ECU has the igniton and fuel maps from the stock rom? |
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PM6 is the ECU from a 90-91 rex/hatch Si..
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On the Civic side, the PM6 is 88-91, but the phsyical motherboard was changed in 1990.
You need a 90 or 91 PM6 to chip with EcuControl and Ghettodyne. This is the PM6 ECU you need, with this chip. If your PM6 doesn't look like this, don't bother chipping it. TOOOO much time and money for what it's worth. Just find thing one. Remember.. 1990, 1991 PM6. http://www.ecucontrol.com/images/topecu.gif |
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that's look like pretty cool :)
when this will be availlable??? How we gonna work with it??? Does we need to set the fuel mixture or the ECU will control it??? Thanks |
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so just to clairfy...
what are the ECUs that work with Ghettodyne? will my d15b7 ecu work for it... mpfi, 16 valves 1.5l |
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so to use in an obd1 car I would need an obd1-obd0 converter and on external rpm switch for vtec activation?..
might be more expense than it is worth in that case... |
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Ghettodyne ECUs as of version 1.03: 90 - 91 PM6
EcuControl ROMs (which match to corrosponding ECUs) available here: http://www.ecucontrol.com/rom_page.htm |
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so can someone explain why the ---- they don't support 92-95 non vtec engines?
cause i don't see the difference between the two... i don't even know what ecu my engine has...d15b7... |
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You have a P06..
Why? They explain that on thier site. No need to get mouthy about it. It takes time to develope software. The ECUs run different programs, and the tuning programs haev to adapt to each ECU ROM to be able to properly read it. They will support more ECUs as the software gets developed. |
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