Fraud Warning: Missing Link
Since itˇ¦s introduction in 1999 Synapse Engineeringˇ¦s Missing Link„µ has brought to the market a solution for after-market turbocharged Honda/Acura/Mitsubishi/Neon that eliminated an array of problems. Consequently, thousands of enthusiasts began to enjoy boost instead of solving issues day after day. And with success, comes knock-offs.
Regrettably, due to rampant counterfeiting of our products, we will no longer be providing warranties for the first generation of the Missing Link„µ. We have always had an open door policy for warranties against defects, and most often cases of ˇ§user errorˇ¨ were warrantied without question. But with the stem of cheap, knock-offˇ¦s imported from overseas, we cannot take on the time consuming process of verification of genuine products in order to warranty inquiries. These knock-offs incur very high failure rates, and inaccurately impart a misconception in the market that our products are poorly designed, poorly manufactured and simply a non-functional gimmick. In the time since we first introduced the Missing Link, our productˇ¦s operational failure rate has been below 0.002% But progress, is put forth by those that innovate, not imitate. Like any technology today, we progress, and will soon be releasing an entirely redesigned line of Missing Link„µ that incorporates improved valve response and filtered intakes for reliability. We will not leave our customers out in the cold. In the coming weeks, we will introduce an upgrade program that will allow owners of genuine product, as well as those stung by knock-offs to upgrade to the latest, most improved version of the Missing Link at a significantly discounted price point. Where to buy a genuine Missing Link„µ? Please visit out web site www.synapseengineering .com and contact one of our Master Distributors and ask for a genuine Missing Link„µ, or request the info of one of their stocking dealers near you. http://www.synapseengineering.com/ht...tributors.html How do I know that I have a knock-off? We will soon put up a page on our site to identify these knock-offs, but the telltale signs are: You bought it on ebay (from dshih2002@yahoo.com) or it came with your turbo kit ordered online via www.dragturbokits.com. What do I do if I have a knock-off and it never really worked? First step is to forward a written complaint to us that includes your contact information and the entity that sold you that part. We will forward all complaints to DHS (US Customs Fraud) and the FBI (Fraud Division). Second step is to upgrade via the upgrade program we will be releasing soon on our web site. It is never easy to have to make this announcement, but I believe that all of you should know that there are products being sold to you by illegitimate entities that are not only fake, but they do not work as advertised. We work hard to bring you innovation, and we appreciate your support. Best regards, Peter Medina Synapse Engineering Inc. |
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You guys should send me a few to test on some cars ;)
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No shame in Jeffs game. :P
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I have one of those knock offs, I dont know it works yet.but its off ebay .from the same guy.
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That guy's fake! He doesn't even work for Synapse!! I'm the owner of Synapse. Buy your Missing Link check valves from me!! hahahaha! ;D
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i bought one off the same guy on ebay my question is when i install it how do i know if it is really workin??
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You won't have to know. Your check engine light will tell you. And if it doesn't, I think that it's friends Hiccup and Buck will chime in.
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so what do we do?
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Bend over, grab your ankles, and kiss your ass goodbye!!!!
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i'll bend over but i like it when you grab my ankles(you know like last time) ;)
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How does a couterfeit invalidate the original product's warranty? If you bought the real valve, you should get the real warranty.
I don't like that policy. |
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I'll clarify. We obviously still warranty defective product. But operationally defective product is about .002%. What we always helped out with, but will no longer are users that don't have a defective product, but do not maintain their Missing Links and send them back for warranty when they stop functioning optimally. With the latest product improvements, this should no longer be an issue, so we will only be supporting true product defects.
But bear in mind that we are fielding alot of inquiries based on knock-offs, we are also getting bad perception because of these knock-offs. So the basic message is that if it is genuine Synapse Engineering product and it is defective, yes, we'll warranty it, no question. But at this point there will be more work on the customer end to show us that their product is genuine before we warranty. Our main support will be to the next generation of product iteration that we know is more likely to be genuine. If you have been sold knock-offs portrayed to you as genuine Synapse Engineering Missing Links, feel free to forward us a written complaint, with as much information on where and who you purchased from, and we will gather and forward all complaints to the FBI fraud division. |
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I hope the FBI fucks thier ---- up. If you take an American Invention overseas and have the gooks duplicate them for a nickel, you suck cock. I wish they would come up with their own idea's instead of taking the easy way out. It's just the way people think these days. :(
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Just checking but do you all carry one for the Saturn 1.9LLO DOHC engine? and if not will you soon? We have used faulty check valves for quite some time now...and it sucks...but the pet store loves us... This engine is the same for all models from 91 thru 00 in all DOHC's...I think they got a good run off one engine dont you?...get back to me..
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Not yet, but we've had a few inquiries about it. It might be a clearance issue, since the IAT sensor is integrated, but we're looking into it.
A question for you is more a question of, how many of these get turbo'd every year? |
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Originally Posted by AbaZ
You guys should send me a few to test on some cars ;)
So I guess that was a NO on that one... ;) fish tank check valves been working great for years.. lol |
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Its not a no. But we don't make sending product out for every request an SOP.
At the end of the day, whatever works for you works for you. |
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Well consider this.. I have a website that is full of your market (honda/acura turbo DIY people), and alot of people take my advice here.
Catch my drift? Jeff Frank - dont be afraid of the black girl :-* |
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Yea....What he said!
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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
I hope the FBI fucks thier ---- up. If you take an American Invention overseas and have the gooks duplicate them for a nickel, you suck cock. I wish they would come up with their own idea's instead of taking the easy way out. It's just the way people think these days. :(
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No disrespect to your company, you're just trying to make a honest profit, but a turbo kit done right should never need a missing link in the first place.....calm down guys.
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Agreed, everyone should run standalone. But the fact of the matter is, and the economies of scale that we deal with demonstrates that, consumers are not willing to spend the money on the total solution.
All we are providing is a solution for the masses until they can afford the standalone systems. |
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Standalone systems are too complicated for the average booster....most of the people just want to get it on and get it going real fast....which brings me back to my point......TO SYNAPSE.....each year we at SICON.com push more and more saturn owners to boost...With support from Twistec and turbonetics we have even gotten the Saturn corp. to look our way when the idea of a production model turbo saturn was discussed. Instead the community and Saturn corp. settled on the supercharged saturn to come out soon...the ION Q-TC or just Redline series. in addition more of us are tuning turbos and could use the missing link. We actually sponsor a 650hp turbocharged saturn that until recently was still using checkvalves..now they are using a small spring loaded actuator...but the problem persists for everyday saturn owners...and the missing link is the cure.
If you decide to produce and market this item then please contact me: eric@s-icon.com and in the mean time check out turbosaturns.com and turbosaturns.net Thanks, Eric Rosado Imports and Eurostyles http://www.s-icon.com |
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using "over seas resources" is business these days,the company i work at is being put out if business because someone can do what they do faster & cheaper by shipping engineering jobs to india.
The only way to combat this is with patents and innovation, these overseas sources work extremely cheap and are good at doing repetitive things and are getting better at others. Ignoring these types of resources is just plain stupid as far as business goes. I dont want to call any names but i don't really like it. Although I may end up using something like this in the future. |
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I completely agree that Patents and intellectual properties drive innovation. But when you have both already setup and you are still getting knocked off, all that's left is litigation, and that is not fun, but a necessity these days.
The illegitimate prick that's knocking us off has even told me point blank that he can't wait for our innovative new fuel pressure regulator to come out so that he can to to China, knock it off and flood the market with it. Now, someone tell me where the motivation is for me to bust my ass to bring innovations to market? I really question sometimes if it is even worth bringing products to market that will significantly benefit everyone when there are entities scheming out there to bring you down from the get go. Sorry, had to vent a bit. |
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Life is not fair.
As for the missing link not being used in a "real" turbo setup, I agree with that, but at the same time I have to disagree. Using the missing link is basicaly a "hack" just like the AFC system. If everybody had enough money to build whatever system they wanted, this site probably wouldn't even exist considering it is a "homemade" turbo site and most of the people here are on a budget. For the people that don't make $100,000 a year and still want a performance vehicle while maintaining a full time job working 40+ hours a week and feeding a family the missing link is a perfect part of there turbo project allowing them to put a custom turbo on there car without a $1000 standalone fuel managemnet system and several hundred dollars in tuning. Furthermore, how about hooking me up with some of those missing links for all this positive reinforcment???!!! ;)J/K. ;D __________________ Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote |
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Yup the Missing Link is used quite a bit around here. A ton of people I know use it and love it. A friend of mine sells them at his shop and he sells alot. About the guy wanting to knock off the new FPR, give me his location and it'll be dealt with. ;D I hate bastards like that. Just like people in the music scene. Come up with your own ----. As a musician it really pisses me off. Woah, I'm angry. :-\
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I just bought a legit one from a local shop that ordered it and it took 2 weeks to get but it solved all my problems and works great. Good looking too. Pushing 8psi
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Originally Posted by synapseengineering
The illegitimate prick that's knocking us off has even told me point blank that he can't wait for our innovative new fuel pressure regulator to come out so that he can to to China, knock it off and flood the market with it.
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we all think its wrong for counterfeiting but you stealth mode should be stoned for what you just wrote, I think we all are import lovers, some people are hardcore Americans, but you just put your people down when you call peolpe names like that |
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Originally Posted by rudebwoy
Originally Posted by Stealthmode
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Lets just everyone pack up a whole bunch of buds and we'll go around stoning everybody until we get everything figured out... ;D
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Why would you want to go around stoning people? It's not nice to throw rocks. :-\
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ya that is really weak ass of that dude to tell you straight up that he will copy your ---- as soon as it is made, basically all you can do is try to patent it and brand the hell out of it and make it so it can't be copied. and get the product out before his cheap knockoffs can, also make it so yours are different from his so the customer can tell.
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Its not a matter of getting yours out before his. It's a matter of you spending $5 to make yours, and $0.13 for him to copy it
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Believe it or not, there are alot of people in this industry with high ethical standards. There are just some that don't and need to be eliminated like a disease.
In the end, it will be up to the distributors and retailers whether or not they want to be known to distribute counterfeit products. Once one shop is known to do this, guys like AEM etc will pull their lines from them, because if they are distributing one knock off of one company, they'll probably distribute others. |
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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
Originally Posted by rudebwoy
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The point is that American products can be made oversea's for half the labor and half the cost , and everyone knows when you cut labor and cost you cut quality . Simple
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why not just make your own map diffuser.....even though that is the bastard way to do it...
i'd rather just chip my ecu, it's not very hard |
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dont buy the blox one on ebay though just got it yesterday installed it and runs like crap...car stalls out doesnt get enough vacumm blah blah blah crap...what a waste of money.
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