FMU and Stock Injectors
#1
FMU and Stock Injectors
Alright so here is my dilemma type issue. I have been reading and reading about fuel management and all the different forms and blah blah. I am wondering if I use an FMU with my stock injectors will I be ok boosting around 6-8 psi. I am using a t25 turbo off of an eclipse on a D16Z6 Engine. My other question is if I use dsm injectors do I have to use a VAFC or a chipped ECU or will those with an FMU work alright. I know I should be doing it a different way but I am on somewhat of a budget. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
#2
Re: FMU and Stock Injectors
To use the bigger [390 or 450] DSM injectors you need a means of controlling them like a SAFC,VAFC chipped ecu etc.If you cant afford that a FMU will work for low boost 5-6psi but you really should not go much higher than that.A aftermarket fuel pump is recommended due to the high pressure demand of a FMU.Good luck.
#3
Re: FMU and Stock Injectors
Originally Posted by JDub
Alright so here is my dilemma type issue. I have been reading and reading about fuel management and all the different forms and blah blah. I am wondering if I use an FMU with my stock injectors will I be ok boosting around 6-8 psi. I am using a t25 turbo off of an eclipse on a D16Z6 Engine. My other question is if I use dsm injectors do I have to use a VAFC or a chipped ECU or will those with an FMU work alright. I know I should be doing it a different way but I am on somewhat of a budget. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Chipping Kit $25. Chip Burner $45 DSM 450's $50 = $120. Tuneable like a ****. No cutting your stock fuel lines = teh win.
* you cannot run anything other than stock injectors without an AFC or chipped ECU.
#5
Re: FMU and Stock Injectors
An FMU forces your stock injectors to act like larger ones. It wiill increase the flow of fuel in the rail at a set ratio per lb of boost. From my readings, FMU leads to horrible tuneability, along with negative impacts on MPG and idle. Once you reach high boost, the ratio becomes undependable and will not supply proper fuel. You also run the risk of destroying your little injectors.
#6
Re: FMU and Stock Injectors
Originally Posted by SloS13
FMU + high pressure fuel pump is about $200 give or take. Piece of ---- fuel managment
Chipping Kit $25. Chip Burner $45 DSM 450's $50 = $120. Tuneable like a ****. No cutting your stock fuel lines = teh win.
* you cannot run anything other than stock injectors without an AFC or chipped ECU.
Chipping Kit $25. Chip Burner $45 DSM 450's $50 = $120. Tuneable like a ****. No cutting your stock fuel lines = teh win.
* you cannot run anything other than stock injectors without an AFC or chipped ECU.
#7
Re: FMU and Stock Injectors
Originally Posted by djfob
word for the price of setting up with an fmu I still wonder why people even bother :1
Because a few of us don't have the luxury of a chipable PCM. And on my vehicle, if I change the MAP sensor's value too much by using a SAFC or similar device, the ignition timing is way off, causing much worse problems during boost. So my only real options are to use larger injectors with two different regulators (AFPR and and adjustable FMU) or to go with a complete stand-alone system. I went with the least expensive of the two for now. If I really need to, I'll add a SAFC to the setup to help with the fine tuning of the fuel delivery. Just as long as I'm not making huge changes I will be ok with this setup.
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#9
Re: FMU and Stock Injectors
ive run a fmu 5 year ago and never had a problem stock gsr and over 500 pass at the track and 60000 km lasted two year it made on the dyno 322 whp tq dont remember
this was on a stock ecu and injector and we put a msd dis 6plus to retard timing
for the proper set up for the fmu changed the stock pump most of them has high milaged
list needed
mising link or check valve for the map sensor fot it not to see boost
255 liter per hour walbro in the tank
msd high pressur pump [ booster pump]
we where running a 7 to 1 fmu made by us but it all depend on the size of turbo
u need all high pressur fuel hoses and dubble clamp fuel pressure will go to 125psi
a igntion system that has nos retard timinn on it and we use a pressure swicth to activate it
i have a friend car now running for over 3 year now and it make 310 whp and 240 wtq
on a stock gsr
on a fmu set up make sure not to run the gas tank low on fuel wile under boost it will detroy the motor
the best set up is to program the ecu but if you dont have any person around to do it the fmu is a good set up
for the fuel milaged it the same under vacume and the fmu only works under boost
and the fmu will not work whit bigger injectors
this was on a stock ecu and injector and we put a msd dis 6plus to retard timing
for the proper set up for the fmu changed the stock pump most of them has high milaged
list needed
mising link or check valve for the map sensor fot it not to see boost
255 liter per hour walbro in the tank
msd high pressur pump [ booster pump]
we where running a 7 to 1 fmu made by us but it all depend on the size of turbo
u need all high pressur fuel hoses and dubble clamp fuel pressure will go to 125psi
a igntion system that has nos retard timinn on it and we use a pressure swicth to activate it
i have a friend car now running for over 3 year now and it make 310 whp and 240 wtq
on a stock gsr
on a fmu set up make sure not to run the gas tank low on fuel wile under boost it will detroy the motor
the best set up is to program the ecu but if you dont have any person around to do it the fmu is a good set up
for the fuel milaged it the same under vacume and the fmu only works under boost
and the fmu will not work whit bigger injectors
#10
Re: FMU and Stock Injectors
Originally Posted by JD Racing
FMU Propaganda
Let's see for FMU, you need 2 new fuel pumps, pressure switch, timing retarder, new double-clamped high pressure fuel lines and the FMU itself
For Uber/Chrome you need a chipped ECU and 4 cheapo dsm 450 injectors.
The FMU is HARDLY tuneable, except for the static psi/psi ratio while a little chipped ECU allows you to tune both your fuel and ignition maps.