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Okay I looked at all of the Turbo Projects on homemadeturbo.com for the d16z16 using the 14b 1g DSM turbo....and i see that all of the projects are using FMIC's...Since either way you have to do custom piping, would a SMIC from a 2g DSM work? I hear that when using a FMIC and only running around 6psi, it can actually lose hp...anyone with dyno pages of d16z6 with homemade turbo that has FMIC? Thanks in advance

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You only lose a bit of power because of pressure drop through the cooler but you make that up by cranking the boost a bit.

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Running low boost with a FMIC you wont lose noticebale power, you can make it up by boosting a little more anyways and not worrying about sucking in warmer air and the detontation. SMIC are ok but if you think about it you are still sucking in a lot of the warm air under the hood, FMIC is more efficient and will along you to do more in the future as well as far as higher boost levels.

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and...uh...they look cool too ;D
just make sure you use the right size diameter on the piping ;)

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why not use a sidemount thats mounted like a front mount? makes sense... no pressure drop... same nice cold air as a front-mount would pick up.

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I agree! You can mount a probe/mazda MX6 IC in the fron like me and be done with it. It's quite effecient. and i wouldnt worry bout losing HP on a bigger IG, it's just turbo lag and you can do away with it by using a smaller front mount and cranking the boost up.

Good luck!

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Yep, check out my thread a few post's down for a pic sample "1.9 8 valve escort", I used a stock 1G SMIC up front.

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Or if you have a tig welding friend... smics are so nice and cheap... http://home.comcast.net/~typer/turbobuild/14.jpeg

it flowed well enough with a 6inch bead on one side, other sides not even welded yet, that it did this....
http://home.comcast.net/~typer/turbobuild/5.jpeg
6ft fireball just from blowing into the end of it...

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i got the saab smic mounted in the front.

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Audi A4 SMIC mounted ont he side 8)...although it could be fit in the bumper if need be. I just like it hidden..it has a vent...no big deal for me...it WERKS :-*

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got any pics of it mounted in the side? how is air flowing to it?

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Typically, side mounts have an upper and lower inlet. The lower goes to the engine bay (kind of under the frame) and the upper goes through the hole in your frame left over from your old air box. It's a tight fit, but it works.

As far as air flow, it's obviously not as efficient as a front mount, but I cut out a small portion of the fender liner to fix that.

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I have lower bumper signals on my accord and I removed them and use one of the old signals to direct air over the intercooler. THe cold was cool enough to hold last night after several 40-115mph pulls with my friends WRX. it works flawlessly...a cooling unit will be in order for the summer but for now it works really well. I wouldnt suggest a SMIC if you cant get DIRECT flow. Its not going to be as efficiant as the FMIC and heat soak is probably going to be an issue. if you devise a lower scoop-VENT that can eliviate some of the heat soak. but if you cant get direct flow...just run an FMIC.

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if you're a/c is off, u can put it where the condenser used to be. thts where i have my 2G i/c. just give it a shot of flat black, and its all good. ;D

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ive also seen this done and though its close to the manifold, the temperature difference is still there over a SMIC

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I use a 2G smic on my 93 hatch and it fit fine inside the front bumper,and i've had no problems @7psi with it.not bad for some free junk off the side of my friends house it just needed a shot of black paint ;Dsmic are also cool if you want the sleeper look.