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shaved99gt 05-20-2006 04:06 AM

A few pics of my DIY Turbo Modular Motor Foxbody Mustang
 
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Here is a few pics of my recent project. Its a 1988 Mustang LX (former 4cyl car) The engine is a 4.6 SOHC 2valve with 2002 Ported and Polished P.I. Heads, Intake, Cams. Modular Engine K-member and Front Suspension. Automatic Tranny(for right now have 5spd also waiting to see which i like better) Iam using a Holset HE-351CW Turbocharger, Custom Made Modified Factory Exhaust Manifolds. Iam gonna be using a MegaSquirt V2.0 (with every avaliable option)to control Fuel and Spark. This project started out naturally aspriated but i received an almost brand new Holset HE-351CW and made the manifolds and then i had no reason not to try it, the best part about the whole project is i have a total of about $550.00 invested in the whole project (Car,Engine,Transmission,Turbo,and Piping) Ive been collecting parts for the last couple years to build a car and this is what i have so far. Now i need to buy BOV, Wastegate, Megasquirt Stand-Alone ECU and i should be pretty close to firing it up and getting started tuning it should be a fun car no reason it wont Turbo'd V-8 in a light car with good suspension etc.and its a great way to learn about turbocharging and etc. Anyway here are some pics of my progress so far.
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Picture of Modified Stock Manifolds before they were Rewelded
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A Few Pictures Of the Holset HE-351cw Turbo
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Picture of Turbo Piping from Manifold to Turbo(most of the piping in the pictures was just for mocking up and has been replaced with mandrel bent 2.5" Piping)
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Picture of Turbo Placement Directly Behind Passenger Side Headlight
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Picture of the Exhaust Housing (Housing is larger than it looks i think b/c it uses a 4" Exhaust flange)
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Pictures of Where Iam Currently at with the Project
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StanB 05-20-2006 06:59 AM

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The car and the turbo setup looks good. One good thing about your project is, you only need a small amount of boost (5-7psi) and you have a monster. You might also have to upgrade your transmission.

Good luck.

SpankedYA! 05-20-2006 07:14 AM

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You can upgrade to a 99 lightning MAF and then modify the stock ECU. No need for mega squirt.

shaved99gt 05-20-2006 07:59 AM

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yeah i was gonna go the 90mm MAF and 42lb injectors but i want to go with a megasquirt b/c it will give me more control of the tune and datalogging cababilities.

shaved99gt 05-20-2006 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by StanB
The car and the turbo setup looks good. One good thing about your project is, you only need a small amount of boost (5-7psi) and you have a monster. You might also have to upgrade your transmission.

Good luck.

The car has an AODE right now but iam considering switching to a 5speed, or C4 or turbo400 tranny depending on what i can find a good deal on

BoosTedZSix 05-20-2006 08:23 AM

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thats actually pretty sweet. Johnny's going to wet his pants :P

shaved99gt 05-20-2006 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BoosTedZSix
thats actually pretty sweet. Johnny's going to wet his pants :P

Thanks man i appreciate it

HondaTuner 05-20-2006 11:01 AM

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Yeah Johnny's got some competition now :P

What are your plans/goals for this?

shaved99gt 05-20-2006 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
Yeah Johnny's got some competition now :P

What are your plans/goals for this?

My plans are to get it running correctly and tuned then i will be installing the forged bottom end (Rods,Pistons,and Crank) in an aluminum block i have laying around to keep the weight down and then up the boost a forged bottom end 4.6 can take 700+rwhp so iam not really worried once i get the bottom end installed. should run good with the ported and polished P.I. Heads, Cams, and Intake also. The thing i like is the Holset uses a T4 flange making it pretty easy to upgrade at a later time when i begin maxing the Holset out. The car is gonna be EXTREMELY LIGHT hoping 2,800 lbs. (which is really light for a Mustang) i want to stick with an automatic with a transbrake so i can leave the line with boost i plan on having an extremely well put together suspension also and slicks and skinnies

accordepicenter 05-20-2006 12:24 PM

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Yeah this thing should be very fast. I hear those mod motors are good to way over the power levels the 5.0 guys were getting without splitting the block. Budget boost mustangs seem to perform very well for the money. Cant wait to see it running!

shaved99gt 05-20-2006 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by accordepicenter
Yeah this thing should be very fast. I hear those mod motors are good to way over the power levels the 5.0 guys were getting without splitting the block. Budget boost mustangs seem to perform very well for the money. Cant wait to see it running!

Yeah your correct stock Mod Motor Blocks are good up to 1500hp!!!!!! 5.0 blocks usually split @ around 500rwhp. the Mod Motors are reinforced very well basically has 4bolt mains and cross bolted from the side also and the crank sits fairly high inside the block. My friend has a 4.6 DOHC Forged Rods, Pistons, and Crank stock heads cams intake and even a stock throttle body with twin 57mm turbo's and it made 751rwhp and 768ft/lbs @20psi. That is just incredible for stock heads intake and cams The Ford modular motors are slowly gaining some serious respect and showing how well designed they really are

shaved99gt 05-20-2006 02:12 PM

ANY ONE GOT ANY ADVICE ON WASTEGATE AND BOV?
 
Hey does anyone have any input on which brand and sizing would be best for my application i want room to grow with whatever BOV and Wastegate i purchase. How many mm wastegate should i purchase and what brands are the best and what brands should i stay away from. Ive been leaning toward Tial if i could find them for the right price

90dx 05-20-2006 04:24 PM

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Awesome project :o That is gonna be a monster.What all is involved in swapping in a Mod motor into the foxbody chassis?For wastegate and blow off valve i would go with Tial 50mm blow off valve for sure and maybe go for a bigger gate like the 44mm or 46mm as it should be able to control it down the road as well when you go to bigger turbo etc.Keep the updates coming i cant wait to see how this comes out.

Walter 05-20-2006 08:12 PM

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some vid?

shaved99gt 05-20-2006 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 90dx
Awesome project :o That is gonna be a monster.What all is involved in swapping in a Mod motor into the foxbody chassis?For wastegate and blow off valve i would go with Tial 50mm blow off valve for sure and maybe go for a bigger gate like the 44mm or 46mm as it should be able to control it down the road as well when you go to bigger turbo etc.Keep the updates coming i cant wait to see how this comes out.

All u need to do the swap is the front K-member out of a 96-04 Mustang V-6,GT,or Cobra (they are all the same), use the fox body A-arms and 94-04 Spindles that allow you to convert to 5lug and slide on rotors and dual piston calipers apposed to rotors with bearings and seals in them that are 4lug pattern single piston caliper
As far as ECU goes iam getting a MegaSquirt instead of messing with the OBD2 computer with PATS (passive anti-theft sysytem) which requires getting new keys programed before the car will start. So you suggest 50mm blow off valve and 46mm wastegate? What power levels and boost levels are those good to? thanks for the advice and complements

shaved99gt 05-21-2006 12:54 AM

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Here are a few pics of the interior i dyed all of the interior Black, made gauges pods that replaced the A/C Vents and A/C Controls. I just got my 5" Tachometer and Shift light and i installed it in the Stock Instrument Cluster Now iam Waiting on my 5" Speedometer. hopefully ill get my 10pt cage in the next couple weeks so i can start welding it up get it painted should look good silver against the black interior.
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90dx 05-21-2006 04:41 AM

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Nice work on the dyeing it came out great.As far as HP rating it depends on turbo sizing,boost levels etc but those sizes should work well for you i would think.

shaved99gt 05-21-2006 07:00 AM

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thanks man i appreciate the comments. Today i got the exhaust about 80%done ill post pics later

StanB 05-21-2006 07:20 AM

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You can also check out the HKS GT wastegates. It has a 60mm diameter valve and can handle 600 to 1000 HP. The new HKS GT 11 wastegate comes with either a 50mm or 60mm stainless steel valve. Spring ranges from 8.5psi, 11.6psi, 29.0psi and 29.9psi.

shaved99gt 05-21-2006 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by StanB
You can also check out the HKS GT wastegates. It has a 60mm diameter valve and can handle 600 to 1000 HP. The new HKS GT 11 wastegate comes with either a 50mm or 60mm stainless steel valve. Spring ranges from 8.5psi, 11.6psi, 29.0psi and 29.9psi.

about how much do that wastegate cost?I just want to tell everyone on HMT thanks for all the advice ive received in the last day or two yall are really informative and helpful thanks again
brandon

90dx 05-21-2006 05:07 PM

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HKS GT wastegates are $7-800.

shaved99gt 05-21-2006 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 90dx
HKS GT wastegates are $7-800.

Damn kinda pricey but i guess you get what you pay for

Erich 05-22-2006 11:46 AM

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Wow that looks cool. I have a HMTT setup on my 89 notch on a 5.0. My other stang is a 97. The notch started out as a 4 and I swapped the 5.0 in there but I always think hmmm I wonder how a mod motor would be in there....You will get some nice power out of that combo for sure. I heard the 4.6 is actually lighter than the 5.0 (although it is bigger), does that seem true? Your setup makes me wish I had gone for the 4.6.
Erich

jinxy 05-22-2006 07:22 PM

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I want a ------- mustang or a camaro now :) Expecialy since my friend just got a 300zx. 8)

splitime 05-23-2006 10:09 AM

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Ebay has 50mm HKS knockoffs that people have had success with.

I'll be curious to see how that 9cm hotside does on a motor that big. I know I found those specs and such... I'm trying to get one of the HEs for myself to try out... probably on a 1.6L single slam honda motor ;P

Keep us updated :)

shaved99gt 05-23-2006 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by splitime
Ebay has 50mm HKS knockoffs that people have had success with.

I'll be curious to see how that 9cm hotside does on a motor that big. I know I found those specs and such... I'm trying to get one of the HEs for myself to try out... probably on a 1.6L single slam honda motor ;P

Keep us updated :)

Is there any way to upgrade the hotside the HE

splitime 05-23-2006 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by shaved99gt
Is there any way to upgrade the hotside the HE

No clue, its a new turbo and I couldn't tell u if it shares components with older models... ive yet to take one apart.

shaved99gt 05-25-2006 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by shaved99gt
Is there any way to upgrade the hotside the HE

does anyone know if you can upgrade the hotside

sohcpwr 05-25-2006 12:24 PM

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does megasquirt have launch control? If it does, you'll be able to use that to build boost off the line and get a manly mans manual trans. ---- automatics!

shaved99gt 05-25-2006 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sohcpwr
does megasquirt have launch control? If it does, you'll be able to use that to build boost off the line and get a manly mans manual trans. ---- automatics!

I have to disagree about automatics being for girls if youve ever driven a high horsepower turbo car 700-900 rwhp car nothing can beat an auto leaving the line on a transbrake trust me auto's rock and cannot be beaten on high horsepower cars plus you will never keep a clutch in a high hp manual tranny car. having the same problem with a TT 02 Mustang GT that makes 751 to the wheels just too much power for the 5spd

sohcpwr 05-25-2006 02:05 PM

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i totally agree that they put the power to the ground better and all, but driving a manual trans is where the fun is at. That, to me at least, is why we put all of our money into our cars. My personal opinion, dont take it too seriously. I never owned an auto so i guess i dont even know...

shaved99gt 05-25-2006 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sohcpwr
i totally agree that they put the power to the ground better and all, but driving a manual trans is where the fun is at. That, to me at least, is why we put all of our money into our cars. My personal opinion, dont take it too seriously. I never owned an auto so i guess i dont even know...

I totally understand i once said ill never own an auto but once you have felt an auto behind a turbo its crazy especially when you dont loose boost b/t shifts it pulls so hard no problem with your comment like i said i never thought i would like an auto

shaved99gt 05-27-2006 08:35 AM

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Just uploaded some pics of my hotside (exhaust) setup i was really limited with what i could do b/c the turbo iam using has a 4" outlet so i got a full 4" exhaust system from my friends diesel truck that he took off to upgrade to 6" it had some nice mandrel bends in it so i cut it up and this is what i came up with should be nice and quiet. The welds are rough i know but once they are ground down and I reweld them with my new argon mig that i just got back they should be ALOT better looking. and about 95%sure iam gonna just get all the piping redone once i get EVERYTHING mocked up so dont hate on the shitty welds.
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Fender fits perfect probably gonna cut out a hole in the bottom of the fender for the pipe
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I took off the whole front clip so i can start making my intake piping and intercooler piping and mount my intercooler(which i should have in the next day or so). I removed a few things i dont need on this car(bumper supports etc.) and i have ALOT of room to mount my front mount and my piping should go pretty smoothly hopefullly.
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I think next iam gonna start welding and filling all the holes in the inner fenderwells and engine bay i cant stand all the hole looks like **** iam gonna make it completely smooth even the firewall and my standalone only runs like 12wires to the motor so should be a very clean engine compartment. probably paint the engine bay once the smoothing is done. iam going for this look dont know how close ill get it but this is what iam shooting for iam pretty good with body work and shaving door handles etc so i should be able to do a pretty good job.

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StanB 05-27-2006 10:22 AM

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WOW :o. All you have to do now is cover the exhaust with some insulating wrap.

hyper4mance2k 05-29-2006 06:55 PM

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You might want to consider a presilencer. THere is room for one right over the top of the tire. It'll cut down on noise and heat.
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

Tom-Guy 05-29-2006 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CSaddict
You can upgrade to a 99 lightning MAF and then modify the stock ECU. No need for mega squirt.

I'm with this asshat. A tweak for the MAF swap, and then dial back your timing a little because a small bore mod motor wants less timing than a SBF. The fuel should be more or less carved in stone with a small tweak or two.

Nice job so far, btw. Congrats. I'd go for built C4 or one of the TH350 conversions, which a lot of the SBF guys are leaning towards locally. I dunno much about fangling one of those to a mod motor, but that option probably exists.

W O T 05-29-2006 09:41 PM

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Why not just dump the exhaust right infront of the front tire? So much easier and you dont have to cut body panels

shaved99gt 05-29-2006 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hyper4mance2k
You might want to consider a presilencer. THere is room for one right over the top of the tire. It'll cut down on noise and heat.
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

thanks man i really appreciate it ill be ordering on this week

samson 05-29-2006 10:44 PM

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Wow, nice. Exhaust is sex. :y


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