Experience with OBX LSD...
It's getting time for me to get an LSD, I sick of shitty 60' times :7 Now that the OBX LSD has been around for a while and been beat on by quite a few people. I was looking for any updates on any problems that anyone has had...the only this that I've heard bad about them is that you should make sure that everything on the unit is torqued correctly and that the bolts on the ring gear are VERY close to the center part of the carrier.
Any other things to watch out for would be GREATLY apreciated. :y Oh yeah...what are the other shims that you can use other that the stock shims to space this correctly? Everyone that I have talked to says that the OBX LSD ends up using ALOT smaller shim than stock (because the carrier is a little bigger) and there's a shim from an Integra motor that you can use that is around .015" instead of that normal stock .040" or so. |
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Mista Bone says these things have good results in lots of cars now. You can buy varying sized shims from the dealerships.
However, a limited slip is not part of a turbo kit, so I wouldn't have chosen the forced induction section. Just a thought. |
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Sorry, there always seems to be more people looking in here than anywhere else....If you want to move it, please do. But it's not really a "hybrid" question eather...more of a draive train question. :S
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Originally Posted by Zeusfire69
Sorry, there always seems to be more people looking in here than anywhere else....If you want to move it, please do. But it's not really a "hybrid" question eather...more of a draive train question. :S
and i dont move threads, im just a lowly chat moderator and there isnt even a chatroom anymore. |
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Have you put one of these in yourself? I just want to make sure I have everything I need before I tear things apart.
I have found several writeups here and there...but none of them seem to be complete. I DO know how to set up the lash and such but I haven't been in a FWD tranny before so I'm a little timid.. :l |
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i am boosting my forged h22a to 20 psi on that lsd with no problems..
what it does when accelerating through a HighWay ramp is just amazing. I think it's important to get some brand new diff bearing from honda when installing it. |
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Originally Posted by BLAAST
I think it's important to get some brand new diff bearing from honda when installing it.
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been using it for about 6 months now. seems ok. my motor still stock so ihavent put a lot of power in but i can definately tell is their going around a corner. im using 92 ex tranny and im not using any shims at all.
and yes make sure your torque everything down. |
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OBX stands for. Other Brands are all eXtremely better than us. But they work, waste of money in my oppinion. So just save up and do it right the first time.
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well here is a couple pics of the tranny and diff, befor the obx lsd went in. Got a friend that owns a tranny shop to press off the bearings and back on to the new lsd, no problems at all. the real test for the lsd will come in about a month when the turbo set up is finished. but as for now, works great. no shims or anything needed.
fit like a glove. check out my pics http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/...6782&members=1 |
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I've used one in my ZC Tranny and now is getting swapped over to a Hyrdo Tranny. Just make sure you tighten everything down before installing. I thought I did, but I missed one, It backed out a tiny bit and when I pulled the tranny apart it was riding the housing.
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got about 5k miles on mine in a z6 tranny. love it. ive had the axles out and they dont stick...the only problem i had with mine was the bolts that go into the ring gear....the heads on the bolts needed to be ground down a little (the diameter of the head) cause they were hitting the housing and it was causing them to go in crooked. a few seconds with a bench grinder and they went in perfect.
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Originally Posted by hyper4mance2k
OBX stands for. Other Brands are all eXtremely better than us. But they work, waste of money in my oppinion. So just save up and do it right the first time.
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$70 for new bearings, $18 for the speedo drive ring (I keep spares!) then when the bearings are pressed onto the OBX, you can compare overall width.
Using the measurements you get a real close number on which shim to use. B16/B18 oil control ring, .5mm thick. The thinnest shim you can get from Honda is 1.0mm. |
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Hey Mista. What exactly is the oil control ring, and where is it on my OBD1 LS Donor motor?
Edit: You mean the shims on the oil ring on the piston? K |
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Originally Posted by FooK
Mista Bone says these things have good results in lots of cars now. You can buy varying sized shims from the dealerships.
However, a limited slip is not part of a turbo kit, so I wouldn't have chosen the forced induction section. Just a thought. |
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Originally Posted by JK_Motorsports
Hey Mista. What exactly is the oil control ring, and where is it on my OBD1 LS Donor motor?
Edit: You mean the shims on the oil ring on the piston? K |
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Ah the actual Piston Ring. I though you meant the little shim for the oil ring. Will do as my LS has to be bored over anyways for it's build.
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Originally Posted by hyper4mance2k
OBX stands for. Other Brands are all eXtremely better than us. But they work, waste of money in my oppinion. So just save up and do it right the first time.
Thanks alot guys for all the help...I let you know when I finally get this set up. It might even be next season before I finally get it done... |
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Originally Posted by hyper4mance2k
OBX stands for. Other Brands are all eXtremely better than us. But they work, waste of money in my oppinion. So just save up and do it right the first time.
ill take the firsthand experiences over any comments like yours |
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coming from someone who saved up to buy a Kaaz LSD, then waited 9 months to install due to lack of funding...........I wanna try a OBX.
$830 for a Kaaz 4-5 years ago...........now do your research. KaazUSA is no longer bringing the LSD's to the US, I'm praying I can get a clutch pack! |
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First hand I will not give my customers a part that'll last 20,000 miles when you can pay a lot up front and save money in the long run with a LSD that'll last 100,000. I'm sorry if that upsets you, but those have been my experiances. OBX LSD's tend to last around 20k as opposed to others lasting 100,000 or more. Through out my experiances factory LSD's seem to be the best, honestly. Especially Mazda ones when they get old the more HP you feed them the better they hold. LOL Except crappy Miata torsen ones. 200 ft/tq or more might gernade them. Not trying to ---- on NE1 just offering my experiances with them since you asked...
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Originally Posted by hyper4mance2k
First hand I will not give my customers a part that'll last 20,000 miles when you can pay a lot up front and save money in the long run with a LSD that'll last 100,000. I'm sorry if that upsets you, but those have been my experiances. OBX LSD's tend to last around 20k as opposed to others lasting 100,000 or more. Through out my experiances factory LSD's seem to be the best, honestly. Especially Mazda ones when they get old the more HP you feed them the better they hold. LOL Except crappy Miata torsen ones. 200 ft/tq or more might gernade them. Not trying to ---- on NE1 just offering my experiances with them since you asked...
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My OBX has seen alot of miles and abuse, no problems. My Nissan Factory LSD on te SR20DE FWD suchs Balls.
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Originally Posted by Snafubmx234
You've used the OBX LSD? What happened to the ones that "didn't last?"
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Originally Posted by hyper4mance2k
Have you never heard a LSD when they go bad? When LSD's go bad they grind, hiss, scratch, whine, and click on deceleration first then in reverse then everywhere. Cool thing about LSD's is that when they're going bad they grip even harder and engauge even earlier, but then eventually they hardly work and feel like a slipping clutch. One tire burnoputs are cool. LOL! They sometimes get crazy and randomly engauge. This is really unsafe especially in mid turn when only the inside tire is turning then suddenly the outside tire gets tuns more power to it. That's what my buddies was doing. It was in his EF w/ H22 and is lasted about 30k before is started dieing. I do a lot of SCCA solo II and the Honda guys I know like torsen style. Word of mouth is that they have stood up to abuse better. But then again you feed a torsen too much TQ and gears start chipping and failing. I've got no experiance with the Nissan FWD ones but I've heard they're not the best. I'm not here to argue with internet thugs the guy asked for experiances, and I gave hime mine. I personally would wait an extra month or two and save up to buy what I know will work best in the long run even if it costs more up front because it'll save you in the long run, but if you feel otherwise then that's cool too. Maybe there was a bad batch that circulated and they got a bad rep. Maybe it's a great product. I'd sure like to know if it is. It's good to know that there are people out there with good experiances with them.
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I have heard lots of complaints about sticking axles and the fact you have to double check the Chinese kids asse3mbly but never actaully heard of one failing. ???
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of they 6-7 OBX installs I've done, I've yet to have any come back with any issues. Been 18+ months since the first one I've installed. The first couple I didn't shim at all, left ot the factory shim and went WIDE, like .018-.022" side clearance/ Stock calls for .000-.004" for a daily beater. Since we like to BEAT on our Hunders I prefer .005-.010" clearance to allow for heat expansion. Something I was taught by a Canuck who has more tranny knowledge than me.
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Oh yeah, Quaife and Kaaz have been the best/easiest to install. Their diffs are same width as stock, I haven't had to reshim then yet.
PS I will only use OEM bearings thru a Honda online dealer or GearspeedInc.com |
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